Open 284: Tit for Tat (Over)

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

At last, his bad CES vote can be added.

How is it bad? It strikes me more as a newbish?

Yo people. I can give up my life and hammer myself if u guys think im mafia, if i flip town, then i would suggest to go for SV or DJ please.

Just fyi, that doesn't work.

i think he is just noob player

Do elaborate. Do you think I'm a newbie because I've thought about the ethical implications of that type of self-voting proposal?

I don't understand where you're coming from at all. Seriously. I get the complete opposite vibe.

Calling other people nervous, claiming at "L-1"; doesn't that strike you indicative of aaah being nervous?

[aaah400]

Lol at ces. i would seriously hammer myself just to lynch you. i don't like the way you play so meh w/e

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Could you try engaging with my posts?

[aaah400]

you are so eager on lynching me since the beginning of this game and clearly i had no reason to be voted for in the beginning, and of course u vote me straight away because i FOSed u for asking random questions which i did find suspicious. U tunnel alot on me. all u say is lets lynch aaah. gg

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

and of course u vote me straight away because i FOSed u for asking random questions which i did find suspicious.

You FoSed me because I was "nervous". I voted you because the simplest explanation for you thinking that I was nervous was that you were nervous. Do you still think my early posts show signs of me being nervous? Were you nervous?

[aaah400]

i was never nervous in this game at all.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I ask 2 questions and you only answer the easy one. Why?

[aaah400]

And i still find you suspicious after your first post.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

That's not an answer.

[silverbullet999]

General question for all... mayhaps I'm being arrogant and assuming too much.

Is post 357 at all cryptic in expressing what I'm suggesting people to do?

[Shattered Viewpoint]

If you only knew what I know.

Wait. Are you questioning my methods? Oh, you mustn't do that. Nothing good will come from it. At all.

Is this supposed to be some sort of claim...?

Not at all. It's referencing an ongoing game, which, for the record, neither I nor my alt are a player in, to save people the searching. Just look at aaah's history. You'll find it.

@RBT: Love you too, sweetheart.

My vote stays.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

I don't see what you claim to see, silverbullet.

[don_johnson]

unvote, vote: shattered viewpoint

wonder twin powers... activate!

hi rbt. voting block suggestion: rbt, dj, recoyote, drk, ces. <---- unstoppable!

[don_johnson]

unvote, vote: shatteredviewpoint

[jmj3000]

b]Official Vote Count[/b]

Players needed to lynch: 7

aaah400

- 5 - Cogito Ergo Sum, AurorusVox, Shattered Viewpoint, Uite, ConSpiracy - (L-2)

Cogito Ergo Sum

- 2 - DemonHybrid, aaah400 - (L-5)

Shattered Viewpoint

- 5 - BlenBlen, DeathRowKitty, Riceballtail, RedCoyote, don_johnson - (L-2)

Players not voting: silverbullet999

Deadline is March 7th at 11:30 AM.

[silverbullet999]

I don't see what you claim to see, silverbullet.

Just looking for clarification... are you saying you don't quite get my post 357 or are you saying you did get it, investigated, but didn't see....

err for simplicity what am I claiming to see... hah

[BlenBlen]

General question for all... mayhaps I'm being arrogant and assuming too much.

Is post 357 at all cryptic in expressing what I'm suggesting people to do?

No but in a game where generally if someone posts more than 5 lines people just skip over what you've written I think it's a bit much to expect people to go read an entire ongoing game just to get a piece of meta. Just because you can't discuss an ongoing game doesn't mean you can't be specific about what part of aaaah's play you've meta'd into a town tell (or at the very least a null tell).

[AurorusVox]

Been out of action for the last few days. Back with a catchup post...

Can someone

please

outline that case a little better? That wagon's been going long enough that surely

someone

knows what it's about. I sure don't.

My reasons might help?

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More of aaah's contradictory playstyle...

Yo people. I can give up my life and hammer myself if u guys think im mafia, if i flip town, then i would suggest to go for SV or DJ please.

i think [CES] is just noob player

Lol at ces. i would seriously hammer myself just to lynch you. i don't like the way you play so meh w/e

And i still find you suspicious after your first post.

=_="


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Despite the above...I'm willing to relent on lynching aaah today if it's absolutely necessary. Aaah is by far my

preferred

lynch but the wagon stagnated a long time ago and no one else seems ready to oil the wheels. For reasons stated here I will add to the delicious SV pressure with:

Unvote; Vote: SV

(L-1)

If your read is solely based on meta, what do you make of Silverbullet's meta read saying the opposite to yours? Have you no other reads beside the aaah one? Do you have ANYTHING to say about aaah other than a meta that you can't/won't talk about?

[silverbullet999]

-Blen

I think it's a bit much to expect people to go read an entire ongoing game just to get a piece of meta.

I agree but more or less I was wondering if it was cryptic to see if may-haps I was blind and Demon was justified in his accusations... as that does not seem to be the case...

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First off, I agree with the pressure on SV
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TLDR: Demon is scum and needs to die (in the near future)
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So without further adieu and confident that I'm not blindly arrogant.
VOTE: Demon
(Case is in the Spoiler... do take a quick glance eh?)
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Spoiler: Why Demon Needs To Die

I really think demon needs to die and has proven himself more than scummy (especially lately with his over dramatic ate, flipflopping, and accusations just not matching up).

First (The false accusation)

You've given absolutely NO REASONING but "Oh...just cause. Nothing cryptic here, guys! Seriously."

This is quite frankly a load of bull as I had given my reasoning which is being understood by users that I'm referring to meta, He does not ask me to expand on the meta he simply states... you have given no reason.
meta = reason... therefore his accusation above is nothing more than an attempt to anger me and flood the thread once more.

Second and Third (The flip flop and the unmotivated anger)
On the bottom of page 12 demon states that his read on me is now town in this quote

silver is upgraded to extremely retarded town who doesn't read

So basically he's throwing me as VI
Further evidence of him throwing me as VI is quoted here from page 13

I am now sure that it's just you being dumb.

Now it's around page 15 that the flip flop and unmotivated anger comes
first shown by

No, you are, or my vote will go right back on you.

further shown by

Idiot. I want an explanation for completely flipping your read from aaah scum to aaah town. You've given absolutely NO REASONING but "Oh...just cause. Nothing cryptic here, guys! Seriously."

and lastly (the flip flop and admittance of anger) shown by

Apologies.

I should stop looking at this thread for a little while so I can cool myself.

CES, silver and Uite are suspect. That is all.

Now he's stated repeatedly... that I am an idiot... that I'm just a stupid VI or at the very least simply an Idiot.
Why does he get so angry and so dramatic all of a sudden once more? Yes he finds my change of thought suspicious but the way he states it is as if he's surprised at how (in his eyes) further idiocy is displayed. He's constantly labeled me as the idiot... there should be no surprises and no more anger generated from my actions... yet it happens once more.

The reason? He's probably trying to clog the thread once more, trying to gain attention and justify his suspicion and flipflopping.

And that's really it... there's literally no reason why demon should have gotten "worked up" yet he himself admits he did. He blatantly misreps me and tries to play it off. Furthermore he's probably going to downplay this as more idiocy... which frankly i'm fine with since I'm already cemented in my opinoin of him. Thus again... Demon needs to die before this game ends...

[jmj3000]

The thread is locked while I discuss with a couple of other mods over the correct course of action I should take on a recent rules infraction.

[jmj3000]

It is with a heavy mind I announce this. As per rule Rule 6, Section a:

(a) Anybody who is found to be using invisible text, spoiler tags, encryption or anything as such will be smited unless they have an extremely good reason. Not knowing is not a good reason.

silverbullet's post 393 has a case in a spoiler tag. After consultation with other mods, and asking silver's reasoning behind it, I have come to the conclusion that the proper course of action is to modkill him. I hate to do this, but it is what is correct.

silverbullet999, vanilla townie turned neutral survivor

was modkilled day 1. Night begins now and ends 72 hours from this post.

[jmj3000]

Y'all wake up and see there is one person missing.

ConSpiracy, Vanilla Townie

was killed night 1. Day 2 begins and will end at 1:00 AM on March 27th. Good luck.

[aaah400]

vote:Uite

he did want to lynch CS throughout the game until he wanted to hop on the wagon which the wagon was me. im still watching CES and SV

[DeathRowKitty]

I already gave the mod a piece of my mind and I'm not going to clutter the thread rehashing reasons, but that modkill was absolutely terrible. Between that, opening the thread 22 (!) hours late from night without any mention of why, and the lack of vote counts, which are themselves lacking in information, I can pretty much guarantee you this is the last game jmj mods that I'm going to be a part of.

Moving on.

The CS kill is actually very interesting. Considering he spent much of the day under suspicion, the fact that scum decided to kill him likely means they either expected him to be a power role or he was right about something the scum team was afraid of. I'm terrible at picking up on power roles, so I have no idea about the former, but it seems unlikely that scum would kill a player under suspicion based on idle speculation anyway. Might be worth looking into his suspicions when it's not 3am and when I care. Off the top of my head, I remember a post he made suspecting aaah, SV, and me, but I'm not exactly sure what to make of that.

In the meantime,

vote: Shattered Viewpoint

. This lynch could have and

should have

gone through yesterday except that our mod decided to go on a power trip and modkill a player for breaking a harmless rule I doubt he remembered. I mean, it's not like we could have just clicked the spoiler to read the hidden part of his post...

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Modkill was indeed terrible. There's no reason to ban spoiler tags.

Vote: aaah400