Because the cherry on the top of my case was going to be:Thor665 wrote:1. You accuse me of not finding a misspelling of yours when you haven't produced one of mine.
That comes from the day preceding Darox's NK. Plus, I'm pretty sure there are hundreds of other times Thor spelled Darox's name right, and an n there isn't a fat-finger mistake. Ya, obv-scum is obv.Thor665 wrote:To-may-toe to-mah-toe, let DH bumble through his own little scum accusation on his own, I see little reason to help him - though find it hillarious he's calling me out for being veridis and then spends the bulk of that paragraph digging into AntB - lulz.
Only really great thing in last few pages.
Like Zaz less and LMP more.
So now we're caught up to game state and have a lot of suspects and, thanks to fail scum (to tag team with fail town) still plenty of lynch attempts to work through.
Vote: Dark Horse
Seriously now, why didn't this wagon happen yesterday?
LMP is town.
Darnox is town.
Palmer is town.
Undecided on most of the rest of you people whom I hate in horrible ways but I could happily lynch a couple of you, secondary preference is probably still Ghostlin but I could actually go for Ant the lurker, though if people want that one they better explain some sort of brilliance about how DH isn't scum first.
Vote: Thor665
I'm going to finish up my case though and post it anyways. For posterity's sake. Plus I've done 90% of the work anyways.
NOW POINTLESS CASE:
Spoiler: Thor is scum!!!
Case for Thor-scum:
First, lets examine Veridis, the slot that Thor replaces.
Now on to Thor:
First, lets examine Veridis, the slot that Thor replaces.
Rolefishing DGB's softclaim. Mispells Darox's name.veridis wrote:I'm hoping DGB doesn't claim super-spy, she's previously softclaimed a PR.
Character claim is looking for the extra flavour in her role PM, the theme reason for her hated townie role.
From this I'm pretty confident saying you're vanilla or scum.
@DGB - I'd like to hear a character claim too.
FoS: Vezo for the vote jumping and third vote attention.
VOTE: Davox, his vote on Ross was terrible. (for the record I have no problem with Ross voting DGB for pressure, I'm undecided on how quickly Ross crumbled under pressure himself)
Palmer chainsaw defense.veridis wrote:Vezo on the other hand just gets worse and worse. 9 posts, 4 different votes, 2 without reasons (the first one I can forgive), and the 2 reasons she's given for her votes (DH being 3rd vote on wagon/bandwagoning, Palmer looking desperately for a lynch anywhere he can) apply just as much to her as to her accused.
VOTE: vezokpiraka
"I agree with your summary, but take a stand"!? That's some huge double-think there.veridis wrote:Hedging your bets a bit there aren't you Ghostlin? If you FOS enough one of your suspects is bound to have a wagon you can jump on.
I agree with your summary, but take a stand man. Sitting on the fence gets you nowhere and gets the game nowhere.
and DGB I'm still waiting for that proper case on Ross (or anyone else on your expanding scumlist for that matter)
Calls attention to the "typo".veridis wrote:I was afraid to vote for Davox, the non-existant typo man.
First interaction between veridis and AntB or Palmer. Seems pretty safe. In veridis' whole ISO there is a shit ton of pushing for mislynches, wagon voting where necessary, and two safe palmer interactions. Not a single interaction of any kind with AntB.veridis wrote:Care to share? Because i really don't see it yet. 5 votes in 16 posts still looks off to me and his playstyle isn't redeeming at all.palmertrou wrote:I kinda get why DGB thinks Vezok be town though.
Now on to Thor:
Jester town, but happily lynches Jester yesterday. palmer town, and we know how that turned out. Ghostlin scum, but he is playing it safe towards Ghostlin today. DH scum, but we know how that turns out. Couldn't be more wrong. Also in this post he has a spoiler tag that is "Brillaint(?) thoughts", but not a single one explains the palmer-town read. AntB is completely ignored.Thor665 wrote:Up through Page 11, and have assorted wild and crazy theory to spew about.
The short summation is mostly - palmer town, Jester town, Ghostlin scum, DH scum, and a side helping of I hate everyone but say it in whimsical ways to seem polite.
Calls his own slot town? DOES NOT COMPUTE. First mention of AntB is "Mr. Slide under the radar". But doesn't provoke the slot, or think anything scummy about that, wants hime to "be a Doc and protect people so I can get a town read on him". Why is it important to get a town read on him? Yet again, calls Palmer town, STILL 0 JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS.Thor665 wrote:Post 316 by veridis when he notes that everyone is playing with a VI/jokey/hey I'm kooky/goofy playstyle is pure win and correct on so many levels I'm calling him town right now just so I have another solid platform to place a foot on in this drippy mess.
**SNIP**
I really should mention by this point I still have no read whatsoever on AntB. He is Mr. Slide under the radar this game. He needs to be a Doc and protect people so I can get a town read on him
**SNIP**
At least she now thinks palmer is town, which is better than thinking him scum.
AGAIN WITH THE PALMER TOWN! AGAIN WITH THE NO EXPLANATION FOR THIS. Note that every other read he has given he has made comments (in this post or previous ones) for why he has these feelings. Not so here. Also, we'll be coming back to this post at the end of the case.Thor665 wrote:To-may-toe to-mah-toe, let DH bumble through his own little scum accusation on his own, I see little reason to help him - though find it hillarious he's calling me out for being veridis and then spends the bulk of that paragraph digging into AntB - lulz.
Only really great thing in last few pages.
Like Zaz less and LMP more.
So now we're caught up to game state and have a lot of suspects and, thanks to fail scum (to tag team with fail town) still plenty of lynch attempts to work through.
Vote: Dark Horse
Seriously now, why didn't this wagon happen yesterday?
LMP is town.
Darnox is town.
Palmer is town.
Undecided on most of the rest of you people whom I hate in horrible ways but I could happily lynch a couple of you, secondary preference is probably still Ghostlin but I could actually go for Ant the lurker, though if people want that one they better explain some sort of brilliance about how DH isn't scum first.
This is in response to my asking him "Why do you have a town read on palmer". Note the "well, I can't prove a negative" attempt to brush the question aside. Only when I go after him by specifically showing that I've already made a case on palmer does he eventually try to explain it. Also note that he has a town read on me, yet pretty much my entire contribution to this game had been "zOMG WE NEED TO LYNCH PALMER". And here he is all "What's the case?" DOES NOT COMPUTE.Thor665 wrote:@LynchMePls - asked in a vacuum it can be hard to say since it's basically asking me to justify a negative, but my general feel is that he was scumhunting, I agreed with what he said, and he was an occasional relaxing beacon of sanity in the rest of the thread. Also, look at those ridonkulous catchup posts he did mid yesterday while catching up and with no real wagon pressure on himself. Yeah, I could buy scum going through that much work if their neck was in the noose and they were like "crappity-crap, gotta look town - WALL POST FYI!" but instead he does a catchup post that is basically far more work then I'd ever do even for a fresh replace in.
What's the case on him for scum in your eyes?
Time to whip out the handy dandy BS-O-Matic9000(TM). This text, run through this highly sophisticated machine, returns the following resultThor665 wrote:Overall I see some aspects to your case, but it mostly looks like a skeleton with some extra bits lobbed at for thickness and I'm just not seeing it as remotely as sturdy as you are. I think the worst is the vezok bit which is really a case on DH, not palmer at all. Half of the rest are tells I just don't see as scumtells.
It worked too, by the way. I never realized that he actually successfully avoided the original question which was why are you calling palmer town.BS-O-Matic9000 wrote:Overall, you have a pretty good case, but it has some pieces that I feel I can attack, and therefore I'm going to say that it's not as good as you think it is. Nevermind that none of these holes explain WHY I HAVE A TOWN READ ON PALMER, even though that is the original question you asked me. Despite the fact that I admit that there is "a skeleton" to your case, I still have maintained a "palmer-town" read with no justification. Please disregard this, and I hope you forget that I haven't really answered your orignal question.
More palmer defense.Thor665 wrote:@VV
palmer is scummy because Jester was going to be lynched and then palmer helped make it VV who was lynched - vote palmer!
^^^
This is vezok logic all over again, this only makes sense if Jester is town, why do you want to lynch palmer over Jester if palmer is scummy because he helped reverse a lynch on Jester? Am I a raving idiot here or are you? Please let me know.
Here he calls AntB "lurky scum". Not just "lurker" but specifically "lurky scum". But no where in his ISO does he explain why AntB is scum. Maintains the palmer-town, going so far as to call him one of "my strongest town reads". Still no explanation for this position.Thor665 wrote:Lurky scum, maligned town, funny town, headache to get a read on - don't find him townish.
In that order.
You've basically got two of my strongest town reads down as your top scum reads. At least one of us is an idiot, and I never bet on myself in those matchups
L O FUCKING L. Especially considering his "I can't prove a negative". Even if his rsponse to me was an explanation for why palmer wasn't scum it still doesn't explain such a solid town read.Thor665 wrote:I actually think I did a pretty solid Plamertown explanation when LMP asked me to respond to the palmer case he posted.
Thor665 wrote:@LMP, your thoughts on AntB?
@Darox - same.
Thor665 wrote:Unvote: Dark Horse
Vote: AntB
Enough town reads see him as scummy that I'm happy with this, and I begin to question our ability to manage either the palmer or the DH lynch with anything resembling a functional majority as opposed to "ah, sheee-oot, deadline vote ftw!" and I hate those, don't you?
New flavor of the week, come on down!
Thor665 wrote:That got some interesting movement.
Darox, you weren't supposed to leave me on the wagon alone with them
@DH - sample of your AntB suspicions please?
@Ghostlin - I understand I am awesome in bearded form but I've made a total of two votes in this game and you've been on them like white on rice both times. What's up with that?
I want to take this sequence all at once. Here we have "put out feelers on the guy I called 'lurky scum'". Once he sees that he can gain some town cred with a bus here, out it comes. However, he immediately starts hammering the others who join him on the wagon, discrediting his own position. Then, at the first opportunity, wham he's off pushing for a mislynch.Thor665 wrote:You're all just trying to toy with my fragile emotions now, aren't you?
Unvote: AntB
Vote: Dark Horse
@DGB
@Jester
You two alive, thoughts on current hot wagons?
Total 180 on "one of his strongest town reads".Thor665 wrote: That might have some teeth - palmer, Ant, Jester is a scum team I would buy. Didn't notice any Jester end of day misspellings though.
@VV - did you catch a Jester one, your scum list had me and him I'm guessing because we had misspellings?
As far as LMP goes - no, but was the AntB one? I was just backtracking from lynch looking for misspellings. And Duuuuuuur, I've been calling LMP town for some time - I even said I didn't like it when it implicated him. You needz readz morez.
