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Post Post #1475 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:37 pm

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UncertainKitten wrote:And yeah, I saw that. Not sure I care because promises are cheap. I've gotten away with the "If X happens, lynch me." And gotten out of it. I know you at least have that ability too SpyreX.

You also know we have to lynch AGM tomorrow if GI flips scum.

But I bet you knew that, didn't you?
ok seriously this is getting old.

GreyICE IS THE FLAILING SCUM. WHY ARE WE LISTENING TO HIS OBVIOUS PLEAS AT BUYING TIME FOR THE SCUM.

If there are 3 dead scum and the game is still going, you can lynch me 50 times. But I guarantee that is not going to happen.
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Post Post #1476 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:39 pm

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Because AGM is the fucking SK, and if he isn't we still need to be sure?

Have you just been not paying attention to the fact that the reason we need to lynch scum today is so we can AFFORD to lynch AGM SK?

@AGM: Did you miss the part where I want my opinions backed by a vote, BUT I plan to lynch GrayIce today? Just I'm not going to put him at "LOL QUICKLYNCH!!!" range? Until we're certain we want to end the day?

Yeah, you missed that part.

@AGM: I might actually consider that. (Lynching both scum then you). Depends on how confident I am after GI flips scum.

Fair nuff?
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Post Post #1477 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:39 pm

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also as a last note: this is a mini and we are on page 60. I love posting and all but there is really no reason for all this stalling. GreyICE IS THE LYNCH. SpyreX is the buddy. Everybody else (even Ghost Writer) is moot. We aren't counterwagoning. So I really don't see why everybody needs to be like BLAH BLAH BLAH. It's just giving more chances for the scum to wiggle and obfuscate what has already been determined.
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Post Post #1478 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:40 pm

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UK wrote:@AGM: Did you miss the part where I want my opinions backed by a vote, BUT I plan to lynch GrayIce today? Just I'm not going to put him at "LOL QUICKLYNCH!!!" range? Until we're certain we want to end the day?

Yeah, you missed that part.
Yes I did miss that BUT if you see my above post, I am ready to end the day.
@AGM: I might actually consider that. (Lynching both scum then you). Depends on how confident I am after GI flips scum.

Fair nuff?
Very fair.
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Post Post #1479 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:40 pm

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Its fine.

You've forced my hand. Events are in motion.

Beautiful events.

MUHAHAHAHA

As long as I am alive AGM isn't getting lynched. It isn't happening.

AND GOD DAMNIT AGM DONT YOU START THAT TOO

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Post Post #1480 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:41 pm

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wait what's happening, did I miss something?
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Post Post #1481 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:42 pm

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Oh, no, you see SpyreX, if it comes down to my will versus yours, you ain't got a snowball's chance in hell. So, let's just hope that things don't come to that conflict, eh?

@AGM: No idea but I want to sound all bad ass now so don't interrupt!
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Post Post #1482 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:43 pm

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We'll see.

You forced me to this.

It will be glorious. Magnificent.

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Post Post #1483 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:44 pm

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And you know what you've done AGM.

You're drinking the juice. The bad, bad juice.
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Post Post #1484 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:45 pm

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No seriously, what's going on?

Don't toy with meeeeee.

I've only drank what was put in front of me. The obvious.
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Post Post #1485 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:46 pm

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GreyICE IS THE LYNCH. SpyreX is the buddy.
FFFF no no no no.

This is bad juice and you know it.

I mean if that's what it takes FINE but god in heaven after everything that's happened REALLY.
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Post Post #1486 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:48 pm

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Who is GreyICE's buddy then?

I'm just saying - SC's play was blah. Then you bust out ready to gun me down with that scum theory of me being SK. But then I turn that on its head so you and GI go to PLAN B: GI flails and goes into Mega Uber Distancing Mode.

But if MAGIC is going to happen that changes my mind, let the fireworks start.
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Post Post #1487 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:50 pm

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And remember, I have STRONG reasons to believe SC was scum. If he was town, why wouldn't the scumteam just let me run around vigging townies?

No. They wanted to kill me because my initial list of targets was accurate. That list included AKR (aka GreyICE) and SC (aka SpyreX).
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Post Post #1488 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:51 pm

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SC's play WAS blah.

And you know Vig + 1 shot Day Vig absolutely didn't make sense. The second you modified that it clicked.

Then GI goes down and decides to gaze into the eyes of the beast and allow that madness to seep into all of you. Devouring your soul, slowly, so slowly.

Until all you can see is the red glare. The eyes caked in the madness hear only the mantra of buddy/buddy/buddy.

There IS magic coming. Beautiful magic. Delicious magic.

I thought you'd have seen part of it in the VC but NO. I've got to explain that.

The other. In time. Patience.
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Post Post #1489 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:53 pm

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Oh for fucks sake, what obnoxious power do you and your friends have, SpyreX?

And AGM, yeah, I note you still haven't explained why your claim doesn't match EVERYONE ELSE'S. Not a surprise you want to lynch the townie first, then shoot the scum in two days. Oh, you'll be the vigilante hero, quick, lynch last scum for profit, go... SK win.
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Post Post #1490 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:54 pm

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So sayith BP GOVERNOR YEEHAW.

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Post Post #1491 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 2:56 pm

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Oh fuck it, SpyreX, first you want to quicklynch, now you're counseling patience?

What the fuck, man. AGM wants to say I'm the one "flailing?"

PEDIT: Shut up and present your fucking evidence. This is just endless appeal to emotion. Governor isn't a superpower, it's actually kinda fucking terrible, and bulletproof isn't out of line for a game with multiple kills. As I should know, because I fucking have it.
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Post Post #1492 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:25 pm

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TODAY LIKE I SAID BEFORE MEANT THE GAME DAY WORDS HAVE MEANING BELIEVE IT OR NOT

PATIENCE REFERS AGAIN TO THE GAME DAY GOD IN HEAVEN
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Post Post #1493 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:40 pm

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OH I SEE. I HAVE CAPS LOCK TOO.

YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT YOUR EYES TURNED BROWN. THERE, NOW I'M PLAYING AT YOUR LEVEL.

LETS SEE THIS FUCKING CASE, MAYBE YOU'LL OUT YOUR BUDDY IN IT.
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Post Post #1494 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 3:44 pm

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MY RIGHT SHIFT IS BIGGER THAN YOUR CAPS LOCK!!!!!!!


Not anymore it isn't ... well not completely anyway.
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Post Post #1495 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:00 pm

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Right Shift???

Thats more revolting that caps lock.

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Post Post #1496 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:25 pm

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I'm adding in some gangsta flavor to this with the important town reads: Mina and UK.
Untrod Tripod (1) - Mariyta
Katsuki
(LYNCHED) -
Mina
, StrangerCoug, AlmasterGM, GreyICE,
CooLDoG
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Zang
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StrangerCoug (1) -
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UncertainKitten
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LynchMePls


Not Voting (1) - GhostWriter
Zang
(LYNCHED) - StrangerCoug,
CooLDoG
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LynchMePls
, Untrod Tripod, Mariyta, GreyICE
LynchMePls
(1) -
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StrangerCoug (1) -
Zang

GreyICE (1) - AlmasterGM

Not Voting (2) -
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Now, D1 has the interesting bit. Chances are minimal all the scum were on that wagon. So, looking at that space: Ghostwriter, Mariyta.

Lets map that against the no scum found yet Zang wagon: SC, UT, Mariyta, GreyICE.

Thats what you were supposed to see AGM. Clear as a bell.

Now, NORMALLY, I wouldn't expect a hop on pop double dance. But, with AGM springing the vig dance well its damage control.

And, an interesting one at that:
Mari wrote:
GreyICE wrote:
Mari wrote: This is ridiculous. We're sitting here waiting for two replacements and a guy who flat out refuses to play (or at least play in a somewhat acceptable manner). This is totally screwing over the players who are here to play and actually want to play.

UNVOTE: UT, VOTE: Zang He needs to go.
Unvote. Now. Let Zang answer. One word, two or three letters. Yes. Or. No.

I'm not even disagreeing he's scum, but that's soooo not the issue.
No. I'm sick of this shit.
Guess what didn't happen between this and Grey throwing his hammer?

Zang responding.

GreyICE, Zang, Mari. Book it.
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Post Post #1497 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:54 pm

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Heh. I notice something interesting you overlooked.

Namely, AGM jumping into the thread and screaming his head off about how my suspicions were correct. Yeah. At that point I was 80% on Zang being scum, I just figured even scum would answer honestly in those circumstances - literally, what was he protecting? A "townie?" Yeah.

Once AGM confirmed my suspicions, well, frankly I wish I'd waited a little longer so we could have done a good vote, but I don't have a real problem hammering scum.
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Post Post #1498 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 5:59 pm

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GhostWriter has PMed me informing that he has limited Internet access currently.

I have an open offer to replace. If it is accepted that player will replace GhostWriter immediately.
"I am a leaf on the wind ... watch how I soar!"

Pretty much Geriatric game restricted at this point ... unless there are players I REALLY want to play with.
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Post Post #1499 (ISO) » Sat Feb 19, 2011 6:26 pm

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I have to give you credit. I really fucking do. You replaced into a tough spot. I'm not going to bother to summarize all the scummy shit SC was responsible for. UT did that perfectly fine. All I'm going to try and do is show all the scummy shit you're responsible for. You've been building the case on me with whatever tools you can - none of them involving solid logic.

First documented:
The AGM flip-flop
SpyreX wrote:AGM is absolutely not town.
Once you realized he was working with you, at least for today, the backpeddling began. You didn't even question an alternating night doctor/vig despite the fact that everyone else's powers are day/night. You've been happy to buy that with whatever currency you can find. You've laughed at me, and posted in caps, and made fun of me. What you haven't concretely answered is why AGM has two night powers when everyone else had a day/night power. Even the friggin scum had a day/night power. Yet one person in this entire game doesn't fit the format of everyone else. Kinda like a... third party serial killer?
Further, the combination of Day-Vig + Standard Vig absolutely doesn't add up for balance. Even against a stacked team.

Now, on the flipside, A Doctor / Vig then fits the pattern as laid out AND makes the balance work better (in essence, there's either a 2-kill cycle or the equivalent of a standard vig.
So a doctor/vig is more balanced than a full vig. :roll:
It was a long post in which absolutely nothing is said.

And then the buddying with AGM:
As long as I am alive AGM isn't getting lynched. It isn't happening.
Sure. You can buddy AGM because you have an alternative method of dealing with the SK. We don't - we kinda have to lynch him. If you get enough townies lynched he gets endgamed.

The total bullshit

Seriously, 80% of the things he's thrown my way have been whatever he could grab. Look at his ISO. Half his posts are him insulting me, hoping for me to fly off the handle and rip into him. And I won't lie. He's pretty fucking annoying. But when it's down to the wire like this, I'm not going to fuck around and scream at people like I do on days 1 and 2.

But there's immense levels of bullshittery in his posts. He grabs everything and the kitchen sink to throw at me.
Besides, you're a governor afterall. Why is there this sense of fire and flame at the idea of getting run up. Afterall, you could just stop it.
:roll:
I offer to demonstrate my governor powers, rather than be today's mislynch, and suddenly he shuts the fuck up about them and we never hear about it again.
If GI gets lynched and flips scum, you can lynch me tomorrow. No fightin or tomfoolery.
As kitten points out, if we lynch scum today, we have to lynch AGM tomorrow. Even if we lynch me today and him tomorrow, then that still leaves us in the kingmaker we've been trying to avoid. And I'm sure he can bullshit his way out of my town flip.

Finally, we have all the various ways he's tried to make me angry and attack him irrationally, so he can claim "flailing scum" - a charge he likes to throw my way. A small sample (and please read the ISO, because he's full of enormous fucking bullshit):
Here's the deal. You're flailing. Not a little bit.
So, dissecting the "logic" of the first post is absolutely simply an attempt, and a poor one at that, to shift away from the inevitable.
Or, to put it far more succinctly:
CHOO CHOO SUMMON LOS ROPOS
You've got the termosity to shout Occam's Razor and then fluff that rubbish out?
Yes, he's dead tonight. WHICH WOULD GUARANTEE THIS MYSTICAL COP (WHICH IS EVEN MORE TECH CONSIDERING THE SPLIT SETUP THUS FAR GOOD LORD) IS DEAD. VERSUS HAVING THE SCUM HAVE TO TAKE A GUESS TO WHERE HE IS.
Additionally, AND THIS REALLY SHOULDN'T BE NECESSARY, the existence of a split roleblocker makes the existence of any number of roles that can manipulate said results higher which makes this whole cop claim yee-haw a bulls-eye for SCREW WITH MA RESULTS PLEASE.
GOD IN HEAVEN
I could go on, and on, and on.

Finally, the case he just made

It must look convincing to him from an outsider's perspectives. What he misses are the time stamps. Good lord, waiting for Zang to answer questions was like waiting for hell to freeze over and the devil come up to dance. I mean what are we supposed to do, sitting around with our thumbs up our asses waiting for his buddies to coach him to the point where he can answer us? Zang lurked like a pro - he wouldn't answer for days at a time, and the answers were always more confusing than helpful.

Seriously, we could STILL BE IN DAY 2 if we were waiting for that asshole to answer questions. And he'd still be responding with non-answers and prod dodges. His entire scum strategy was to wait for the town to find something shinier (like UK haring off after LMP) and come back later to go 'hurr durr, good wagon guys.' Or, more likely, just lurk through the lynch. And every answer he gave was less helpful than the one before it.

I got the answer I wanted. Yeah, I should have waited, but I have no problem with the concept of hammering the fucker before he answered. Yeah, I get why people were voting to put pressure on him. He. Was. Infuriating.
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