Road to Wrestlemania: Game over - WWF wins - BANG BANG!

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I shouldn't be made champion for optimal town play.
Generally approve of VP's plan.
Let's trim down the fat and then request any PR who might wish to roleclaim for the title - considering the possibility of roleblocks I'm neutral on the claims but if the PR in question wishes to claim more power to him.
Otherwise we can just make some reasonably competent player town.

Evenflow DDT: Nero Cain
Chest Chop: SnakePliskan

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I'd actually like to see AV off the early elimination list and me added to it as previously mentioned.

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Thor sprints across the ring to deliver a clothesline to VP Baltar in the turnbuckle...

To your first question...really? Go away.
To the second - I consider AV a much better player than you do apparently. Why do you not want AV as end game consideration?

...only to find himself nearly being beheaded as a clothesline from Gobots takes him to the mat!

I stand by the comment and the votes. Do you consider them not fat?

@KK - Keep selling that case, I want to see if it ever gets any teeth.

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@Gobots - I've got no chance in hell with that quote thing. I'm a quote boxing whore. Ah well, invariably a few inverted atomic drops will cleanse my colon of that habit...and everything else.

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@VP - my cognitive dissonance, describe it please.
@Erratus Apathos: Nice to know you trust me so much, why is that?

Spinning heel hook: SnakePlisskan
Gogo plata: JasonT1981

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Define 'elsewhere'.
I'm voting for people I don't wish to see get the title. Or do you mean that by agreeing we should do that I automatically cede my vote to whoever you say should be voted out first?

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1. Did I ever agree to your order in order to actually have cognitive dissonance? Perhaps in a more focused question - do *you* think I have cognitive dissonance?

2. Actually I don't see the difference, you're suggesting that everyone further down the list is going to placidly stand by and not inflict damage while waiting to be eliminated? Besides, I'd rather draw info from a larger test pattern than a smaller one, personally. Your way generates faster eliminations, my way generates more info. Both can be affected by the mafia, who invariably have members in the 'approved' section of your list anyway, so I'm not sure why you're worried about them controlling stuff more earlier.

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@VP - jason isn't on your approved list though, is he?

Still don't know if you actually think I have dissonance.

Serious Belt recommendation

I think Baby Spice or Kubla should hold the title. They are both strong town reads and should go on the approved list.

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I'm fascinated that the merest suggestion of BS having the belt gets people's panties in a twist. You act like it's a permanent free pass to awesome, when it most assuredly isn't. It's not till later the belt will become an issue, the first belt award is practically pointless unless the player in question plans to declare scum after receiving and has some ridiculous anti-town power trigger off that.

I have a town read on BS - get over your bad selves. Your first question should have been "why" not "oh noes!!1! not BS!!1!" Seriously.
Who do all of you have a town read on that should get the belt?
Also, let me assure you, scumz dislike twitty townies who town believes are town and don't want to mislynch.

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UNK is only super powerful in certain situations.

I submit one of those situations is putting it on somebody you believe is town, yes?
What do you see as strategically the best option? Put it on a strong player who is hopefully town? Admit it, the primary focus is "player who is hopefully town" the strong part is the secondary drive. I'd love it if a few of the stronger players wanted to start dropping town tells like crazy, but I haven't noticed that yet - have you? Why not leave BS around through the first round of eliminations at least, or is that too upsetting to even consider?

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@VP please name the post where I requested you be eliminated. Stop projecting your night terrors onto me.

BS looks town because of the reasons cited for calling me worthy to last till endgame. The game she was noting was one where she and I were the scumz. I find it highly unlikely that to try to suck up to me she would specifically cite a game where I was scum with her. That seems way too ballsy of a move and hence is a town tell with giant flashing neon letters. (fuchsia - but what can you do?). Congratulations on actually asking for the town tell after bashing the idea based solely on a meta opinion of her play quality though. Do you care about the Kubla read, or should I presume you support that one in general?

Happy to see your belt holder preference, I'll consider DDD later and see if I share the thought.

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@IS - so you agree that BS looks extremely town?

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@IS - everything is a tell, and nothing is ever not a time to be scumhunting. By the sheer fact you're saying that anyone scumhunting is scummy suggests you believe scumhunting can happen because you can get a scummy read off someone if they try to scumhunt. Open mind, allow possibilities in.

@VP - "hey there player I intend to suck up to, you're a great player, remember that time we were scumz together? Yeah, just think seriously about an association between me and a time I was scum - that would be swell! But I'm town though, yeah, that's why I'm being nice to you, don't want you to associate me with being scum." <---seriously? Naaaaah.

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@VP - my immediate reaction is to say yes, though I'll concede with some of my alts I might be fooling myself. But I am pretty sure I've played 2-3 games with her as the Thor account. Tell you what, do you promise if I produce one you'll put her off the immediate cut list and onto the list for later consideration? Agree to that and I'll dig stuff up. I'll also presume that by lack of linkage you're withdrawing the accusation that I liked BS because she supported me in attacking you. How was paranoia, and do you visit there often?

@Kise - I find scum are usually a little easier to spot in a free range environment where the patterns of acceptable behavior aren't dictated to them. What is your opinion of VP's plan and your preference for belt holder?

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@VPB - Fair enough. (in your response to me) Oh g

@Kise - I appreciate the advice. This isn't my first rodeo though and if I'm not night killed I certainly have a habit of making it to endgame or just about in every game I've ever played, so I feel I'm aware of what it is to deal with and corral pressure and wagons.

@Gobots - you like the plan but choose to vote VPB? Need input on this action.

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@Erratus - you certainly seemed to take my request to heart and noted it as your reason for tossing me out. Theoretically when you note how I said it would be pro town when you do what I said it suggests a certain level of trust. So now you're claiming you never trusted me or believed in my plan then?

To rephrase - what was your exact opinion of me and your exact reasoning for voting for me at the time? (and if it's different, what is it now?)

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@Hoppster - your contributions will be missed in your absence...yes. Also, research active lurk for lulz.

Trendall definitely needs to be tossed during his V/LA - this will be tech.

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@Hoppster - I was actually answering the question you asked VP, but doing so in a mocking way. I'm actually a comedic genius so the failure to laugh probably just reflects negatively on you.

@VP - am I smoking something or did you call Erratus town? (someone did) If it was you - where do you get that read from? I dislike the guy already.

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Scott's votes were Danny and Erratus

T'was you - input, need input on pro-town Erratus.

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I just want the Royal Rumble done and over with now. Im reading and not gleaning any scum information. Just turns out that I was right for my own reads. For me, scum wont be caught here.

Fixed for ya.

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Tosses a chair into the ring.

Support: AV

Reasons already cited. Might have supported KK but frankly he already has too much power for one man to wield

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Woosh - don't want bristep with the belt after that last post.

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Unsupport AV
Support KK

Oh noes, the chair ended up in the wrong hands! Thor smiles and shrugs - he's an evil bastich.

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The belt makes the owner immune to kill effects, so actually that would be maximum VIness. Sort of like reverse trollage for the intelligent.

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@Chess - shh? I do pray that's an admission of idiocy on your part as opposed to a chiding of me. Because if it's a chiding please let me know so I know to vote you tomorrow.

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Yeah, you're on the list now.

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@Kise - I intended to support KK - then I saw lots of people supporting him and figured he had enough support so I went to my second choice, AV because I didn't want KK to have that much vote swing compared to other generally town reads I had. Then I responded to bristep before fully reading the mod's report. When I saw that I had functionally given AV the same boost I would have given KK I waited a post so I could switch it back to KK figuring better him than AV since I have a better town read there and I don't like anyone else enough to give them my votes.

And my reasons were awesome. Why are they luncheon meat?

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@Kise - learn to read. I called myself an evil bastich and the chair in 'wrong hands' is such obvious fluff to showcase how the support shifted I now downgrade your ability to extract tells for the rest of this game.

But, yeah, clearly I called someone an evil bastich to...signal something?...to...support my non-supported shift...by calling myself/them evil?

The sudden switch makes perfect sense in my head, and I have explained it. Explain the scum gain of the move or sod off.

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That is true - but rampant twittery aside you still look town

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@Gobots - who are you distancing from?

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Also, chess, if you are protown then I sort of hate you now.
And by 'sort of' I mean definitely.
And by 'hate' I mean hate.

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Since I don't wish to go there, no. I'm glad you're happy with your school.
And immaturity has very little to do with your academic capability - and vice versa.
Plus - VP's riposte' was hilarious.

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Yeah, but unless you plan to claim day 1 to prevent your sorry backside from being lynched you're doing it wrong.

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Charging down to the ring and catching Erratus beant over Thor applies;

Swinging neckbreaker: Erraus Apathos

Oh the humanity!

Obvious scum has been swinging neckbreakered, everyone please swinging neckbreaker obvious scum.

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@Kise - less cute than if you'd swinging neckbreakered me, more cute than if you'd done some other move to to EA.

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I actually agree with CHesskid (egads!)

@Hoppster - how is that, *in any way*, a scumtell?

Unvote: Erratus Appa-whatevs
Sneak up from behind and chop block the leg: Hoppster

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@Hoppster - anti-town is different than scummy. That seemed rather intuitive to me as well. What's the scum tell?

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^Must be sarcasm because he hung a lampshade on it.

@Hoppster - okay...what was the scumvantage to doing what he did? Or do you think he's dumb enough to openly declare scum in thread (though I could see where that conclusion could come from).

Seriously - shove the wiki and tell me *why Chess is scum for his attitude towards VPB* why are you having trouble doing this since it was worthy of a vote?

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@Hoppster - something scummy *does* neccessarily need a scumvantage because the only way anything is a scumtell is if it's something that is *more* likely to be done by scum than by town. If you just go "lawl, bad play, votevotevote" then all you're doing is admitting you're voting for a bad player.

And I have TERRIBLE news for you. Statistically, bad players are town *just* as much as good players! Shocking, I know, yet provably true.

Also, you keep talking about how it's scummy that he wants VPB killed...but you voted him for saying that while also not voting for VPB. So...why did the scum not vote somebody he wants dead for being town exactly?

Spoiler: The wiki discussion

The wiki is generally accepted as a reasonable tool for learning definitions, but its active use in a game is mostly derided as being outdated and mostly not useful.
Lampshade=admitting awareness of something by making a joke about it. You acted like using the wiki was serious business...yet via your joke appeared well aware this was not normal.

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Oh gawds, looked in his wiki at other games he's played.

Unvote: Hoppster
Flair Flop to eye poke when he looks away in shame: Erratus Apathos

2nd verse, same as the first.

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Other than that BabySpice is town - sure. What's the case there?

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@AV - you've played with town BabySpice, yes?
What's your opinion of Kise?

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@AV - you ding BS for attacking 'easy lynch' Chess.
You attack 'easy lynch' BS.
Thoughts?

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It is my perception that she is classified in the 'VI club' it's a shame Benmage isn't in this game as I'm sure he'd have already loudly announced as such.
I submit VPB cut her from his initial list for those reasons.
Also, seriously, you got zero VI vibe off of her thus far and never have in any other games with her? Your case is a 'let's lynch the VI' case fer cryin' out.

Unvote: Erratus
Gogoplata: AurorusVox

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I'll at least give AV admittance that BS isn't on the level of chesskid and feel all need evidence is above.

That said - AV, no real response to your case as concerns the VI nature of the tells? I could see trying to run up someone you think is VI for them, but someone you think isn't?

We need a swinging neckbreaker in here.

Also - proprietary claim. My finishing move gets to be 'The Hammer', it's in my contract.

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Though what did change between your posts to warrant the vote?

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I'll agree with that.

What do you think about the AV issue though? You should come help me beat her down for a bit in true luche libre style. I'm way more sold on that then whatever the Nero Cain case is (is there a Nero Cain case?)

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@AV - your case on BabySpice;

- Doesn't like people voting and nothing else but admits to posting fluff - posting just to appear to not be "voting and nothing else"?
Admits to posting fluff - not that you caught her posting fluff, but that she openly admitted she was doing it.


- Doesn't read the game
I'll concede scum skim - scum generally don't openly admit it though.

- Not sure why Furc stating a fact has any implications beyond Furc stating a fact (its now incorrect, btw. I just lost as scum by getting lynched)
BS states furc has 'scummed you up' you ask where, BS gives answer, you declare it a scumtell instead of asking why she thought it scummed you up...this is a scumtell on BS how?

- I'm suspicious of the self elimination
And ignored the Kise one, which was far more relevant and major until I asked you about it.

- Easy attack on Chess


And you still claim she doesn't look like a VI to you somehow and *this* is the case you're using? How is this not a case on VI scum?

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@Primate

VI = village idiot. The term has generally expanded to include all players on site who play in sub-optimal ways for their team regardless of alignment. They're actually pretty useful day 1, and remarkably less useful thereon out.

Why is Trendall scummier than IS?

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@Khan - Hoppster? Reaally? AV attacks are waaaay more town oriented.

@Primate - I choose to polietly bow out of the psychological discussion of the groups, but will simply note it is human nature to classify people into either "like us" or "not like us" and react accordingly.

@AV - If town has VIs than so do scum - it is the nature of the game. You may call them whatever you wish, but they are there. I look forward to your reanalysis. I'll admit it slightly concerns me that you're going that route instead of telling me to shove off. Is my read not bad in your mind?

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@Vezo - so what are you called when you're scum?

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@Khan - I actually agreed with that - until I looked at some of his other games. Hoppster is a loose goose who worships the wiki and seems to honestly believe it's like a big book of legitimate scum tells as opposed to general suggestions on the idea of scummy behavior. When you take that into account does he still look scummy to you? If so - why?

I agree with you about VI, though. That's pretty close to the definition as I believe it's legitimately used.

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@Hoppster - Because then your case and lampshading would have looked like a pathetically weak case via wiki tells combined with scummy deflection of an attack on the case via "but guys, I was innocently misguided" defense.

Instead you just look like a player whose reads I'll probably take with some grains of sodium for the moment, but you don't look scummy. I've actually said this all before, albeit not directly, learning to read what people are saying as opposed to typing will help your game improve...or at least get you annoyed at me more as you notice more of my inbuilt sarcasm that I hide behind my pleasantly demure bearded exterior. Either way is probably a step in the right direction

@KK - Hmmm, I like 4 and 17 I'll admit. I may or may not have an issue with his attitude towards the list depending on his reply. I think you're reading his chess push wrong, but that doesn't prove he's town. Objection withdrawn, proceed.

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DDDP - first off you need to Pedigree and Diamond Cutter more.

Second off - you're ambivalent on Gobots and IS? Both of them have produced enough content I would tend to expect at least a general stirring of a reaction either pro or against their lynch. Why so neutral there?

Third and final - what's your read off AV sort of pulling a roper-doper on my attack on her. She's there, but she's not in the fight if you get what I mean. I have other sports related allusions I can throw around if you don't.

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I prefer to see it as a questioner - but frankly I don't see how instigation is unconnected to scumhunting. By instigating you elicit a response, responses allow reads to be made, reads are needed to scumhunt.

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@IS - so my trick was to get him to admit he had slight town reads on two players? I did this so cunningly by asking him what his reads were? If asking other players what is their read on 'Player XXX' is a scum tell than prepare for me to be massively scummy all the time. Also, whether or not you think I have the qualities of Sherlock Holmes - you fail to address how asking questions is scummy other than "ooooh, he got DDDP to admit some reads, ooooh!" Do you find I haven't been giving enough reads? I personally think I've given more than you - what's up with that?

@sotty - careful, by asking me about my read you'll look scummy. But to answer your question; I already had that discussion with VP. I could probably immediately start crowing on about how lack of careful reading is a scum tell, but honestly I think I'm entering the next stage of my mafia genesis wherein I hate all tells that look slightly formulaic. At least the "over defensive...of someone else" thing is a bit different. Considering I called her a strong town tell though, I would expect me...

Thor isn't allowed to finish his taunting as he is caught simultaneously by a clothesline and leg sweep!

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What's to counter? You didn't even have the grapefruits to call me scum. Zing!

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@scottyrulez - I do believe I've only been scum with Halyen as town once. I also believe I've said on many an occasion that the way i play my scum game is the same way I play my town game, and I certainly don't do my tells differently between the two. If you disagree with my self-meta go find examples to crush my soul.

What subsequent actions from BS do you think I am overlooking that make her look like scum? I honestly don't see them - please help me spot them for ultimate win.

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@IS - what does Nero lurking have to do in any way with me looking scummy? Also, could you tell me how the instigator tell you used on me is different than your current actions.

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"Now that Nero is lurking, Thor is also looking scummy now."

@IS - it became all about me when that's what you wrote - unless it's just poor sentence structure. What you wrote here is connected by a comma, meaning the thoughts are connected. Whassup?

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@Gobots - I was wanting to run him up because of the way he joked about the wiki tells. Looking at his past games proves he actually believed what he was saying thus removing the scumtell I was excited about.

@sottyrulez - first off, you're missing the point of why I actually said BS was town. Second, you're saying I'm 'over defending' a player who has been consistently listed as a top suspect by multiple players, and despite a fair number of players even calling her town off *my* scumminess she is now the top vote leader. I don't think I'm over reacting at all. I think i just saw the writing on the wall. For heaven's sake, even vezo is seeing this, why aren't you?

Oh gawds, a towntell from Erratus via actual scumhunting! Be still my heart.

[url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p2843792]IS still thinks I am obv. scum for asking people their opinions of others...yes.

Like new wagon now that AV at least looks like she's working - look forward to what she has when she can say it.

Unvote
Low-blow: Trendall

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Because I'm obv scum blatantly buddying in thread because that's how I always play as scum?

I'd like your question a lot better if it didn't require me to have to argue why I'm not a terribad player when I play scum. I didn't need a further read because my read was awesome and totally sold me - it's other people who wanted more of a read on her. I wanted more of a read on the people attacking her and played to generate those, not generate them from her. Derpy, derp, derp.

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@sotty - you basically have said to me;

Your reason to defend BS is bad.
Your lack of needing more of a read is bad.
The level of defense you did was bad.
Your ability to tell the level BS was being attacked at was bad.
You are probably scum trying to get town points by doing a defense of an obvious town mislynch (never mind how she'll be the mislynch if the attacks on her aren't strong, or why you have issues with my read if you can also see her as a mislynch) and are thus doing a really sloppy and obvious scum play.

How have you not called my play bad?

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@sottyhydra - Um...go back up to my post above yours, do a word search for scum, find it, read it, relax your nervous noggin. I'm cognizant of your conclusion, I don't see how it precludes you believing I'm an idiot player to draw said conclusion. In fact I personally think it supports that belief, but I'm offering you the chance to explain how it isn't.

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@Sottyrulez - my basic contention is when a "good player" is "just playing scum" (on Day 1 nonetheless) it is implicitly implied that they have gakked up and shown their hand somehow. I also think I have explained my choices, you just don't agree with the conclusions I got from the information I showed you. Sadly enough - differences in opinion on scum/town tells isn't inherently scummy.

@Hoppster - I am on awesome in gelcap form. It's expensive but worth it and it makes my beard extra loamy and pettable. When did Trendall call the people on his wagon town? (page number at the very least, please)

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@VP - attacking Trendall for his accusation about you "knowing" he's scum is about the same as me attacking him for not understanding why I got on the bandwagon. Don't poke the newbness too hard, they get bruised. I will say, the utter sheeping of IS's case on me from him is a bit more telling to my mind.

@IS - ...bwuh? Maybe my name comes up because I'm active and take stances? I'm now content with an IS wagon if, for nothing else, silly hypocrisy.

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@IS - so you don't see wagoning as a scumhunting tool at all? Good to know I guess - I disagree to such a huge level the only word I can produce is 'tipplehorn'

Also, no demands to know what your hypocrisy was? Guilty conscious or attempt to avoid discussion?

Unvote: Trendall
Toss Blinding Powder in His Eyes: Internet Stranger

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Confirming non randomness and total happiness of above vote. Haven't seen a meltdown and double talk that good in a while.

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@sotty - scumtell for calling me plus this plus OMG I wasn't even voting you, I'll say OMGUS so this won't look scummy! Blargh, bleh, raaaaage

The initial hypocrisy was really quite minor - the reaction was classic. Did you miss the reaction shot? I want your read on his 'O' (ya caught me) face.

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And to clarify the above post due to lack of double post;

@sotty - scumtell for calling me an 'instigator' plus this plus OMG I wasn't even voting you, I'll say OMGUS so this won't look scummy! Blargh, bleh, raaaaage

The initial hypocrisy was really quite minor - the reaction was classic. Did you miss the reaction shot? I want your read on his 'O' (ya caught me) face.

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@VP - I am a petulant and attention whoring child, please pay attention to things that are happening and comment on IS case.

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@Hoppster - because the vote is uber, super, serious and is not random at all.

Why is it every time I confirm non-randomness I'm asked this question? Seems pretty self-explanatory really.

@VP - swell, but what do you think of the tell I called him on since it had *nothing* to do with whether or not I thought he was scumhunting? What are you even answering here?

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@IS - what is there to answer to an accusation that I'm voting lots of people? My voting record is public, clearly I am aware I'm doing it and clearly it is true. Your conclusion that I want a lynch is also correct. Your only error was presuming I want to lynch anybody - at the moment there are about three or so players I don't want to lynch...is your not lynch list larger than mine? If so you are either much better or much worse at this game than me.

And is Nero on your wagon due to animosity or due to being my scumtastic and opportunistic scumbuddy? Accusing him of both seems a little scattershot.

@VP - He doesn't look like he's flapping from two votes to you?

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I managed a chortle and I don't even know what that is.

That said, furc, in what game do town players *not* declare X is scum, Y is town? Do chess and VP have a history of not doing this that you're aware of?

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@VP - tell you what, if I can't get another vote on IS by this time tomorrow I'll get off the wagon. Also, I will come out and say I'm against the Trendall wagon now, looks more likely to be town to my eyes. You've had the grapefruits to call him scum, what am I missing?

@Everyone - more IS votes if you're not sold on Scott or Trendall. His wagon is super tasty and deserves more pressure.

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Lowell ignores the existence of the ScottBrosious wagon

AV, no comment on Scott who does basically the same thing right above bristep?

Wasn't Trendall scum for weak opinions and lurking?

I like this currently, and also I promised VP I'd move my vote (though now I get to avoid having to vote Trendall or Scott );

Unvote: InternetStranger
Cheap Shot with Brass Knuckles hidden down tights: GoBots

I still sorta feel Trendall case is 50% lurker case, and in a large that's just not worth doing.
Bella case sidestep is super bad though, so GoBots is vote.
Honestly I probably could go Scott, but it's mostly just vague gut and size of wagon and dislike of Trendall wagon so I don't think it's smart money.
The way Lowell hopped onto voting me was weird - that should be remembered later.

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Gobots needing to "compose" himself prior to providing reads fills me with hope and joy for my vote.

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@Furc - I'd be more suspicious if there weren't counter wagons. Your mileage may vary. of course, but the logic is obvious.

Do you have a read on Gobots?

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@Gobots - I would have expected town to have more of a visceral reaction to the pressure. I would expect scum to want to plan out what they were going to say. Also, I never called it bad play - at all. I do find the emotional pop now to be kind of odd considering how you wanted to go chillax earlier. I'm sort of conflicted on the good honest angry town energy I feel from you towards me when combined with the immediate buddying as expressed towards my wagon.

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@Lowell - when you're listing off major wagons and only discuss Trendall and me...yes, yes I do think there's a question as to why you didn't mention Scott as opposed to other random people at random times that you seem to feel I should be attacking instead of you. So...why didn't you mention Scott?

@IS - in a shocking turn of events, since i don't know *exactly* who the scum are it has been my (totally deranged) strategic idea to shift my vote around to test reactions and see who I can get lynched Day 1 of those I do find scummy. When I figure out how to peg scum exactly and perfectly with one vote I'll use that method instead. Cheers! (and, for the record to everyone else - *any* IS wagon movement gets my immediate support)

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Are you asking us or telling us? Because i don't see either a vote or a conclusion there.

If you're asking - no.

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@jason - I see the first three, and clearly the last is because you're deranged - but why is VV a scum read? He's barely fluffing the water on my radar. (Yo, IS, I just asked someone else's read while keeping mine neutral and non-committal, scumtell hoooo! Stay tuned, later I might vote someone )

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Your case is that he attacked G-Man too early?

[Thor665]

I think most of my comments about this game were mostly said in the dead QT. I will repeat however that this was a hell of a lot of scum . Town got lucky the way things worked out, even if some town members were hunting very well. I liked the belt mechanics, it was an interesting twist to things. Scum teams obviously had a mix of bad luck and bad fake claims here. Thanks for modding Locke. Flavor was great of course. I would definitely play in a sequel game if it ever came up.

So sad I didn't get a chance to use all my awesome abilities too. People have got to stop NKing me when I'm a fun role.