Mini 1113 - Brotherhood of the Wolf Mafia

GreyICE · Post Post #1250 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:51 pm

Yeah, nevermind, I don't want you to roleclaim here. It's just like... durrrrrrrrrrrr, another PR?

Maybe the flavor is that all of the Mafia are immune to some of our PRs? Like can't be trackered/watchered, or can kill through protection, or are immune to roleblocks or something?

The only other thing that makes sense is a Serial Killer, which is what I was guessing up until the NO NK THING. That would take the scum AND SK kill being intercepted, which would officially bring this game to epic lulz

GreyICE · Post Post #1251 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:42 pm

Or.

Or I needed to turn on my computer to post this.

Or I'm not going crazy and my gut rocks the house.

Zang: Did AGM claim Vigilante to you in the QT? Yes/No ONLY. No desire to know if he claimed ANYTHING other than that or I guess poisoner

GreyICE · Post Post #1252 (ISO) » Tue Feb 15, 2011 9:44 pm

Oh and don't let him say "Lie to ICE, he's obvscum rolefishing" or ANYTHING of the sort.

ANYTHING.

Just yes/no, did he claim Vig?

CooLDoG · Post Post #1253 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:29 am

How about we get zang's ass in here. I don't really think this game can progress farther until he comes in here.

@mod, player requested prod: Zang.

Done

I hope the mod actually does this....

I'm gonna policy avoid zang for a bit, I suggest we all do that to show him that his play style doesn't work.

MagnaofIllusion · Post Post #1254 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:48 am

Vote Count 2.7 - as of Post 1254

Zang (4) - StrangerCoug, CooLDoG, LynchMePls, Untrod Tripod
Untrod Tripod (2) - GreyICE, Mariyta
Mariyta (0) -
AlmasterGM (0) -
LynchMePls (1) - UncertainKitten
StrangerCoug (1) - Zang
GreyICE (1) - AlmasterGM
CooLDoG (0) -
UncertainKitten (0) -
Mina (0) -
GhostWriter (0) -

Not Voting (2) - Mina, GhostWriter

The Current deadline in Februrary. The Countdown can be found

HERE

With 11 alive - 6 are required to lynch and 4 are required to lynch at deadline.

Activity Check - All good currently. Zang has been prodded at CooLDoG's request. This does not count as an inactivity prod as listed in the first post.

StrangerCoug and LynchMePls are being replaced.

Mariyta · Post Post #1255 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:40 am

This is ridiculous. We're sitting here waiting for two replacements and a guy who flat out refuses to play (or at least play in a somewhat acceptable manner). This is totally screwing over the players who are here to play and actually want to play.

UNVOTE: UT, VOTE: Zang He needs to go.

GreyICE · Post Post #1256 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 3:50 am

Mariyta wrote:This is ridiculous. We're sitting here waiting for two replacements and a guy who flat out refuses to play (or at least play in a somewhat acceptable manner). This is totally screwing over the players who are here to play and actually want to play.

UNVOTE: UT, VOTE: Zang He needs to go.

Unvote. Now. Let Zang answer. One word, two or three letters. Yes. Or. No.

I'm not even disagreeing he's scum, but that's soooo not the issue.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1257 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:04 am

GreyICE wrote:Zang: Did AGM claim Vigilante to you in the QT? Yes/No ONLY. No desire to know if he claimed ANYTHING other than that or I guess poisoner

O RLY? Why would I be any more likely to be Vig than Cop? Or Tracker? Or Watcher?

Especially given that there's already a one-shot Vig in this game?

How did you happen upon that train of rolefishing filled thought...hmmm? HMMMM?

Oh that's right, I know. Because

I am Vig

and I DID claim it in the quicktopic and Zang went and told you in the scum quicktopic and then you plotted to KILL ME, but your evil plot was accidentally foiled by Katsuki.

SCUMSLIP. SLIP. SLIP. SLIP.

GreyICE and Zang have both been caught. We can proceed with lynching them at any time.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1258 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:05 am

Mod: Please fix quote tags (I really need to start using the preview button)

Done

Mariyta · Post Post #1259 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:08 am

GreyICE wrote:
Mariyta wrote:This is ridiculous. We're sitting here waiting for two replacements and a guy who flat out refuses to play (or at least play in a somewhat acceptable manner). This is totally screwing over the players who are here to play and actually want to play.

UNVOTE: UT, VOTE: Zang He needs to go.
Unvote. Now. Let Zang answer. One word, two or three letters. Yes. Or. No.

I'm not even disagreeing he's scum, but that's soooo not the issue.

No. I'm sick of this shit.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1260 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:18 am

AGM posts a compelling case. Why the FUCK did you conjecture AGM was a vig, GI?

GreyICE · Post Post #1261 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:20 am

LOL

Not really. You told me yourself when you beat the townie drum. You told me yourself with an argument designed to get Zang quicklynched. You told me yourself when you backed off Zang and went after me when it became apparent we wouldn't quicklynch Zang. You told me yourself when you told me 'Manga of Illusion likes interesting setups.' What's so interesting about a town-scum neighbor pair? Nothing. Nothing at all.

Katsuki knew you. Bless her heart, however horrible, lousy, no good, very bad her day 1 play was, she made 1 read. Just one.

AGM IS THE

SERIAL KILLER

The pair is SCUM-SCUM. AGM was scared on day 1 that a Zang townflip would put attention on himself. He didn't consider a scum-scum neighbor pair. Look at his talk about interesting setups. Why is there any talk of interesting setups? He's laying the ground for his vig fakeclaim (oh, it's an "interesting setup").

Yeah, bullshit. Even with Zang being the scum roleblocker, a 1-shot vig/tracker, a vigilante neighbor, a Redirector/Jailkeep, and more? A possible cop (although a miller without a cop wouldn't shock me, that one is getting old hat). I don't fucking believe that. I don't know Kdub, but we're supposed to believe that a basic 10:3 gives the town all of this when Faraday, Seacore, and Nikanor reviewed it?

Bullshit. The last mini I was in was 10:3. There was a pair of neighbors, a pair of masons, and a 2-shot dayvig. And the mafia had a power role (2-shot rolecop) and daytalk. The town swept it easy and might have been slightly too strong. This in a 10:3? Total. Fucking. Bullshit.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1262 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:23 am

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

ITT: Scum goes into emergency FLAIL MODE

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1263 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:28 am

I'm pretty sure we've caught the entire scumteam here, folks.
Scum #1: Zang - told GreyICE in the quicktopic I was Vig
Scum #2: GreyICE - accidentally slipped that he knew this information
Scum #3: StrangerCoug - the person I said I was going to Vig; scum tried to kill me immediately to stop that from happening

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1264 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:32 am

Well, I'd like to say that's ridiculous but I've been in a game with an SK with a TON of missed kills, so I can't say it's outside the realm of possibility.

I AM happy with the idea of lynching Zang right now and sorting out the rest later.

Admittedly, an SK/scum pair would be irritatingly...mundane and also rather cruel to the SK. Thought of doing it once but Vi dissuaded me.

@AGM cut: You know what? You might be right. You know what will help this chain the most right now? Lynching Zang. Then you shoot GI. If he flips town, we lynch your ass because I find his reasoning somewhat logical. If he flips scum, we'll follow your chain to completion.

Willing to make that bet, AGM?

GreyICE · Post Post #1265 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:33 am

Oh really. Lets go with your argument and assume I'm scum and Zang is scum (which I am now CERTAIN that he is). Where does this leave the town if you're the vigilante?

CooLDoG:

1-shot vig/Tracker

AlmasterGM:

Town Vigilante/Neighbor

Katsuki:

Town Jailkeeper/Redirector

Against what? A scum roleblocker and what else? My governor ability somehow tips the balance for the scumteam? Go back to the player list. Knock me off it, Knock 1 off it for the third scumteam member, and knock Zang off it because he's obvscum.

By my count that leaves six townies who haven't claimed anything at all. They're all fucking vanilla and we just happened to wagon up TWO DIFFERENT POWER ROLES ON DAY 1 BY COINCIDENCE?

No. Fucking. Way. I am not outing a single other power role, we have what we need here. I don't even want to know it, just think about it. Are you a power role that's not outed? Slot your role into this setup in your head. Then imagine what sort of 10:3 setup we'd have to be in for this level of power to be sane.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1266 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:35 am

@GI: Eh, I'd believe it. I've made crazier set ups, I'm certain. Of course, I also throw a LOT of power on the scum to counteract what I give town.

The big thing is, I don't know MoIs modding style or what he'd throw in a set up.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1267 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:37 am

How do you know what the scumteam's abilities are?

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1268 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:38 am

GI! Do you have any objections to my proposed course of action? You're kinda involved in the mess so your opinion does matter. Are you that confident in your reads? And your alignment?

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1269 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:38 am

AlmasterGM wrote:How do you know what the scumteam's abilities are?

I am quoting this and posting it again because it is extremely important. GreyICE is claiming to know what abilities the scumteam has.

He has become so desperate to peg me as SK that he is actually claiming. This game.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #1270 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:38 am

UK, don't worry - I can prove myself as innocent.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1271 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:40 am

Where is he claiming that, AGM? I don't see it. He IS being cavalier with his assumptions though.

Can you now? That's quite a lot of power if so, AGM.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1272 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:43 am

Unfortunately, I have a fuckton of work to do which sucks because I wanted to sit on this discussion because it's fun. Most fun I've had all game, really. Things are getting real, and I like it when things get real. But, I'll have to work for a few hours. Should be back around 4 PM EST.

GreyICE · Post Post #1273 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:44 am

AGM is the serial killer. He proved it to me last page. Why back off Zang just because Zang asked him before he outed his role last page? There's no town reason, if he thinks Zang is scum. Scum knows he's the vigilante - he said so himself. And what did Zang say? Ask the power role before outing him, and that suddenly makes him town? Jesus christ, AGM is smarter than that. Zang's already outed his power role to the scumteam if he's scum - AGM said so himself. There'd be NO REASON for Zang not to ask him before outing him, town or scum.

And frankly, there's no fucking way that change of heart reads genuine, go read it. The hop right back to SC? Suuuuurreeeeeeeeeee. Then he NKs me, and what? Zang's going to lurk and freak out because his scum play is apparently total fucking crap, so the rest of the town quicklynches Zang, and then he can float to the endgame, with his bullshitty vig claim never outed.

FUCKING NONSENSE.

UK: I have a Power Role related objection, and I have a FUCKING TOWN RELATED OBJECTION. AGM IS THE FUCKING SERIAL KILLER I AM NOT LETTING HIM OFF THE HOOK.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1274 (ISO) » Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:46 am

Did you miss the part where I said if you die and flip town, we're lynching AGM out of hand unless he has DAMN good infallible evidence for his townness?

And did you miss the part where your power role is fucking useless?

You won't be "letting him off the hook"

I find your desire for self preservation, given those facts, disturbing.