Open 284: Tit for Tat (Over)

[AurorusVox]

Funny, I don't recall claiming that I have. I'm just ready for y'all to stop this nonsense.

So you want everyone to do something that you yourself have not yet done?

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Who SERIOUSLY votes for a No Lynch?

Scum?

And the fact that you're still pushing it (in comparison to Uite who is asking other people different questions) allows me to skip RVS entirely.

I'm hardly "pushing" it - unless you see explaining my vote as "pushing"? Also, doesn't this:

Oh, my bad.

hint that maybe, just maybe, I've acknowledged that my reasoning was flawed?

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aaah400 foses CES but keeps his random vote?

Unvote; Vote: aaah400

AurorusVox + silverbullet + aaah400 is the scum group. Calling it now.

would u like to explain how i am on the list? u havent said a specific reason but just accusing the 3 but of course Aurorus has a reason to be in the scum group. but all i have done was random vote.

Would you like to explain what you think the reason for me being on there is? Because when CES made that post - guess what - the only post I'd made was a vote, which at that time I hadn't explained was not random. SO, why is (what looked like) a random vote a good enough reason for me to be on there, but not for you? Hypocritical much?

[ConSpiracy]

I like how the situation changed.

I will call you Istanbul.

Good enough for me.

Ohai wagon. My vote isn't random, btw.

ConSpiracy was protecting himself from any preliminary RVS analysis by voting No Lynch. Or he was actually toying with the idea of a no lynch due to the fact the game starts with 13 players instead of 12 (I was half expecting him to defend his choice with this) and wanted to see if the idea took. He now says its a joke. Super serious face, engage.

You still don't get the joke. Man, it must have been very bad...

I am also very interested how the RVS will give us any analysis. Usually lack of/change of votes makes the game get out of that phase.
<- Shattered and in a lesser extend me.

OMG this fucking game.

When y'all stop ... whatever it is you're doing, and start actually

playing Mafia,

let me know.

We no give you free town credits to tell us the RVS has gone on for too long.

@ RedCoyote

, I don't really like the buddying with me.

Uite tried to get us out of the RVS, just as others did. Nothing scummy about it.

@ aaah,

I asked you a question

[silverbullet999]

-Red
*blush blush*

I'm a card carrying member of the silverbullet999 fan club.

<3

now if only enigma was in this game.. hahahaha

[Shattered Viewpoint]

I would not confess now as of course it is early in the game and of course too earlyto role claim

I know FOR A FACT that you feel differently. Sadly, I cannot discuss an ongoing game.

VOTE: aaah400

[RedCoyote]

DRK, I like you, too! I wish both you guys could be here.

[DemonHybrid]

I'm still liking my vote.

Vox, I see you trying to distance yourself from a mistake here, so I'm going to keep my vote on you. Nobody SERIOUSLY votes for an RVS No Lynch unless it's their first mafia game, and I can't believe that you taking that seriously wasn't you trying to push a lynch prematurely.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Everyone not voting should either do so or explain why they're not. I still believe in the page 3 scum lynch.

[AurorusVox]

I'm still liking my vote.

Vox, I see you trying to distance yourself from a mistake here, so I'm going to keep my vote on you. Nobody SERIOUSLY votes for an RVS No Lynch unless it's their first mafia game, and I can't believe that you taking that seriously wasn't you trying to push a lynch prematurely.

Is "admitting" the same as "distancing"? If so you're just putting me in a Catch-22; either I deny it was a mistake and "push" it, or I admit I made a mistake and you say I'm "distancing". Do you think the misunderstanding about 12p/13p is a mistake only scum make?

[DemonHybrid]

It has nothing to do with whether you mistook it for being 12p or 13p; regardless of the setup and number of players, it's strange that you'd take a No Lynch vote in RVS seriously and vote for it, pegging the player as scummy. I'm not buying the unvote and backing away from ConSpiracy's vote either. That's just how I feel.

[AurorusVox]

If I thought that NL was a "more viable strategy" in 13p than in 12p (and know that this is a 13p, a relatively new change made to Mini Themes), I should still not take a No Lynch vote (which could have been a tester balloon as far as I knew) seriously? And

beyond that

I should not find it scummy that he explicitly denied any sort of voting pattern, however small, during the first stages of the game?

And then when I see someone acting scummier, at the same time as realising 1/2 of my reasons for finding ConSpiracy scummy are not true, I'm now not entitled to shift my vote elsewhere?

[don_johnson]

i am shocked and appalled that av is still drawing breath.

[DemonHybrid]

I feel like you made an extremely scummy move and then you tried to distance yourself from it.

Right now, that's the scummiest thing I've found all game and that's where my vote is placed. I don't know why you're so frazzled at it.

The NL was an obvious RVS vote and you tried to pin it as scummy. After being called out, you've backed away from the vote. That's my argument, nothing more, nothing less.

[DemonHybrid]

EBWOP: There is NOTHING you can do at the moment to convince me that your play so far has NOT been scummy. Other people could be scummier than you; I would change my vote. Your play could improve; I COULD change my vote, but the scumminess of yout move will remain throughout the game. That will not change.

[AurorusVox]

The NL was an obvious RVS vote

Part of my problem with it was that its NOT just an RVS vote. Yes, RVS is random for town, but for scum its never random. By not voting anyone, CS was preventing any rudimentary or preliminary voting analysis.

[DemonHybrid]

No.

With this logic, if you flip town, you'd shock me.

In fact, lets take a majority vote. Who here thought that ConSpiracy's NL vote was particularly scummy because he was trying to stop any and all voting analysis?

[Antihero]

OMG this fucking game.

When y'all stop ... whatever it is you're doing, and start actually

playing Mafia,

let me know.

When I was commenting on this earlier, I wasn't speculating on alts, I was calling it scummy.

Just in case anyone was confused about that.

Well i can see you want lynch very hastily which i do not like. i think your accusation towards the three is random ill suspect but you are very determined to lynch me

Too...many...scum...
Not...enough...rope...

Why would CES be determined to lynch

you

?

[AurorusVox]

No.

With this logic, if you flip town, you'd shock me.

In fact, lets take a majority vote. Who here thought that ConSpiracy's NL vote was particularly scummy because he was trying to stop any and all voting analysis?

My logic is sound.

Scum know who is town and who is scum: Y/N
Scum do not therefore vote randomly: Y/N

A vote for no one prevents a vote on a someone: Y/N
A vote for no one prevents connections between the voter and a someone: Y/N

4 Yesses = A vote on no one circumvents scum's predicament of not being able to randomly vote

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

AV-DH discussion is boring and is distracting us from lynching aaaah400.

[aaah400]

Look at Cogito's statement of quick lynch, its only been 2 days since this game began and already cogito is trying to get a lynch. whats with the rush? well of course i do have a feel Cogito is scum.

He stated because i have not claimed by role yet. of course i would claim wen im in a bad position.
and of course i have a feeling both Cogito and Vox is scum

[RedCoyote]

You guys do realize that aaah obviously is not speaking English as his first language, right?

Also, I think AV's thing is being blown out of proportion a bit. I don't think he's squeaky clean, but it's being framed in such a way that AV was gung ho about lynching CS. I don't see that perspective at all.

[aaah400]

@RC i cannot write much so i try to keep it simple but turns out too simple, and of course i should read my posts to check if it makes sense. Most of the time im on my phone and its quite difficult for me to write.

[RedCoyote]

Well, I just think the reason people are jumping on you is because your language use is a little sloppy. I don't mean to criticize; I'm just stating this as a fact.

[aaah400]

Its all goods. I just dont like writing through my phone as it takes a lot of time and its very difficult as the keypad on my phone is small which is difficult for me to type. Hope people understand o.o

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Well, I just think the reason people are jumping on you is because your language use is a little sloppy. I don't mean to criticize; I'm just stating this as a fact.

I am going after him over the content of his posts: that he projected his own nervousness onto my posts and his weaksauce voteless suspicion of me.

Pro-tip: page 3 is an excellent time to bus, RC.

[aaah400]

I think you have not been reading carefully as i had no signs of nervousness in my posts. seems to me you are the one worried here actually and the content of my post towards you was reasonable and your quick response seems to show more signs of mafia