Mini 1113 - Brotherhood of the Wolf Mafia

[MagnaofIllusion]

Vote Count 2.6 - as of Post 1225

Zang (3) - StrangerCoug, CooLDoG, LynchMePls
Untrod Tripod (2) - GreyICE, Mariyta
Mariyta (0) -
AlmasterGM (0) -
LynchMePls (1) - UncertainKitten
StrangerCoug (1) - Zang
GreyICE (1) - AlmasterGM
CooLDoG (0) -
UncertainKitten (0) -
Mina (0) -
GhostWriter (0) -

Not Voting (3) - Untrod Tripod, Mina, GhostWriter

The Current deadline in Februrary. The Countdown can be found

HERE

With 11 alive - 6 are required to lynch and 4 are required to lynch at deadline.

Activity Check - All good.

StrangerCoug and LynchMePls are being replaced.

[Mariyta]

I think poor Mina is going to be sorely disappointed when Zang posts.

[UncertainKitten]

Zang wouldn't be a bad lynch, I guess. It's just at this point, why replace a slot that's going to get lynched eventually.

But, I'll go with Zang if necessary.

@Mina: The thing is, we're NOT punishing a quitter. LOOK AT RECK AND LMPs ISOs! THEY ARE PRETTY FUCKING SCUMMY! We'd be lynching someone who is, by all rights, scummy. NOT lynching someone just because they quit. Please don't misrep me.

[Untrod Tripod]

@UT: Can you elaborate on all three reads?

My GI read was mostly based on his "soz, posting on painkillers" comment and the stuff he was doing at the beginning of the day. It was a really weak read and I've changed my mind based on his last couple of posts.

I don't think Mina is playing very proactively. It feels more like scum trying to look like they're scumhunting than actual scumhunting.

Zang has been playing the same game since I posted my original scum read on him. Why would it change?

It's about time to put my money where my mouth is on this one VOTE: Zang

I didn't like the LMP/Reck slot to begin with, but I feel like it could be in line with a claimed miller who isn't interested in reading the game. The replacing feels bad, but...ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I have no reason to disbelieve the miller claim at this point.

also I've been reading back through to make sure I didn't miss it, I've been kind of curious over the last few pages why some players have been taking it as a given that scum have daytalk.

The only one I see assuming scum have daytalk is Grey. Neighbors/masons usually have daytalk, from my limited experience. Scum typically do not.

I was being polite about GI assuming things you can't know.

E6) Expect the unexpected. Do not assume that standard expectations are applicable to the game.

How many times do I have to repost this before it sticks?

[CooLDoG]

@ut, nice 180 there about the lmp slot. You were never really for the lmp/reck lynch. Scummy posting here.

Actually I'm beginning to like this game. It more fun then some other games I have played... I don't know why.

@mod, good luck trying to find a replacement into this game 50 pages d-2

@zang, make a post that:

A) doesn't have any quotes that are directed at you.

B) Lists all of your reads with reasons behind them

C) Longer then

7

full lines.

D) Reasons for your role block on mari.

Do that and I will be amazed. Otherwise, my vote stays on you.

[Untrod Tripod]

The replacing feels bad, but...ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I have no reason to disbelieve the miller claim at this point.

@ut, nice 180 there about the lmp slot. You were never really for the lmp/reck lynch. Scummy posting here.

"I believe the miller claim" does not mean "I want to lynch LMP". What is wrong with you?

[GreyICE]

Yeah, seriously, Zang. Lets do that.

Gimme one good reason that you'd choose to roleblock Mari and not StrangerCoug, who is apparently your STRONGEST OMG SCUM READ.

If you answer the rest of the questions, fine, awesome, but lets see if there's even a reason here.

[CooLDoG]

But you have never been skeptical of lmps play until now, just saying.

[Untrod Tripod]

But you have never been skeptical of lmps play until now, just saying.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 0#p2755610
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2756494
just saying

Here's the process, CD
1. Read
2. Think
3. Draft
4. Edit
5. Post

You're leaving out almost all of this.

[Untrod Tripod]

also
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5#p2782585

[CooLDoG]

both posts show no intention of wanting to farther pursue a lmp investigation, you seem to only be able to fish up 3 posts out of 50 pages that you have about lmp. 363 shows no suspicion of lmp as scummy, and 321 infers it but nothing more. In the third link you are still contemplating if you should even consider lmp as scummy. With the possibility that lmp isn't making a mistake at all.

[Untrod Tripod]

both posts show no intention of wanting to farther pursue a lmp investigation, you seem to only be able to fish up 3 posts out of 50 pages that you have about lmp. 363 shows no suspicion of lmp as scummy, and 321 infers it but nothing more. In the third link you are still contemplating if you should even consider lmp as scummy. With the possibility that lmp isn't making a mistake at all.

skep·ti·cal   
2. showing doubt

a. LMP has been a really low-impact player this game, not much to comment on.
b. I don't think he's scum

My ultimate point is that it's not at all a 180. I never said I want to lynch him. I still don't want to lynch him. End of discussion.

[CooLDoG]

okay its a 90 then. But what ever, I think you are on the fringe town anyway.

[CooLDoG]

clarification: not today's lynch

[Untrod Tripod]

okay its a 90 then. But what ever, I think you are on the fringe town anyway.

The urge to type this in all caps is immense.

My day 1 position: I don't want to lynch LMP. I don't think he's scum.
My beginning of day 2 position: I don't want to lynch LMP. I don't think he's scum.
My current day 2 position: I don't want to lynch LMP. I don't think he's scum.
Point out where the change is (protip: there isn't one)

[Mariyta]

Give up now, UT. You won't win that discussion, and it's not because you're wrong.

[AlmasterGM]

Shit, Zang just reminded me of something really important. There's a reason he didn't roleblock StrangerCoug - I told him I was going to be targeting StrangerCoug shortly before the night hit (and right before I got poisoned by Katsuki, it was my last post I think). Since I didn't say anything else in the quicktopic after that, Zang (correctly) presumed he should stay away from SC.

MOREOVER, Zang DID express a suspicion of Mariyta the day before, so it woudn't be a stretch for him to target her instead.

This doesn't necessarily CLEAR Zang, but it does make that point (which is one of the strongest against him) moot. He also did the right thing by clearing this with me in the Quicktopic before blasting out and outing what I was planning to do.

DAMN IT. WHAT TO DO.

[AlmasterGM]

THE MINDFUCKERY OF THIS SETUP. IT IS TOOO MUCH.

[Untrod Tripod]

Man, it would be awesome if Zang did his own talking instead of having his neighbor do it for him.

[UncertainKitten]

We could always lynch LMP before MoI replaces him ^-^.

Or we could lynch Zang since if we ignore the role bullshit he still comes out as scum.

[AlmasterGM]

Zang is too incompetent. Sometimes I dream at night how easy this game would be if UK was my neighbor instead.

We could always lynch LMP before MoI replaces him ^-^.

What about the SC slot? He's equally scummy and doesn't have the whole LALA MILLER shit attached.

[UncertainKitten]

I'm calling in the big guns for SC. I've poked some familiar names about replacing in. It should at least give the game a bit more life, so I wanna keep SC's slot alive at least a little longer to see what happens.

[UncertainKitten]

EBWOP: And yes, I'm stronger in my LMP scum read than my SC scum read, though LMP hadn't replaced out at the time I went poking.

[GreyICE]

*twitch*

Targeting SC with WHAT?

[GreyICE]

This setup is starting to actually hurt my brain. I've gone down paths in my head I never wanted to go.