Square Enix IV (GAME OVER)

[Fate]

Vote: Midnight Sorrow

I want Prana dead soon. What the fuck's the matter with the vig this game?

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Vote Count:

Midnight's Sorrow: 2

(KDub, Fate)

Fate: 1

(PranaDevil)

Not Voting:

Battousai
Chronopie
Katsuki
Midnight's Sorrow
Nero Cain
Riceballtail
vezokpiraka

Lynch:

6 votes.

Deadline:

February 26th - 8:00 PM EST

[Chronopie]

So the way I read the night's occurrences, Starbuck was a Bodyguard I guess, and we have not one but two Gravediggers.

[Chronopie]

And VOTE: MS.

Baa - following fate.

[PranaDevil]

Some things of note:

Iecerint's character is from a non-SE game.

There was no flavor in Reck's flip that suggests multiple scum teams. In SE I and III, each mafia group had a specific name. I'm thinking there is only one mafia group and an SK.

GummyBear's death flavor, "leaves", is the only one different from the rest, who have been "destroyed". He also flipped immediately, whereas DTM still hasn't flipped. There is some mechanic that we still don't understand yet that is more complicated than just a one-day delayed reveal..

Regards to this.

If we don't have multiple scum teams, then I'd say the scum team have characters that can all kill each night, rather than just one of them, Hence the Destroyer role for Reck. However, if that's the case, where would that leave us in regards the "leaves" flavour? As that wouldn't be scum, but it doesn't read as a vig either. It sounds more like 3rd party that did (or didn't) succeed in it's win con. But it's flipped as a town protector, so it couldn't be.

But I am more of the view that it's likely we have a smaller scum group now and each member has the ability to kill, solely based on the fact that night 1 had three players destroyed, and night 2 has had only 2. Meaning if we hit scum today we likely bring it down to 1.

So now we need to work out what's going on with the leaving flavour. As it sounds more voluntary rather than being done by someone elses role.

[Fate]

So each scum member can kill and I SUPAH BUSSED a scumbuddy which lost my team a kill?

LOLPRANALOL

SPEW MORE BULLSHIT SPECULATION PLEZ SCUM

[Bunnylover]

Bah?

[GummyBear]

Bah?

[bv310]

Bah?

[vezokpiraka]

vote MS

Enough evidence to believe he is scum.

[Riceballtail]

VOTE:Vezo

Care to try?

[Katsuki]

VOTE: MS

FATE IM GETTING A FEELING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A VIG. IF SO I WOULD REALLY PREFER LYNCHING OBV-SCUM PRANA OVER MAYBE-SCUM MS.

[Chronopie]

vote MS

Enough evidence to believe he is scum.

VOTE:Vezo

Care to try?

So RBT is an MS buddy (who is a Reck-scum buddy)

[vezokpiraka]

I am getting accused by RBT that I do nothing?
Something is seriously wrong here.

[Nero Cain]

vote MS

Enough evidence to believe he is scum.

What evidence is that?

VOTE: MS

FATE IM GETTING A FEELING THAT WE DON'T HAVE A VIG. IF SO I WOULD REALLY PREFER LYNCHING OBV-SCUM PRANA OVER MAYBE-SCUM MS.

So if you are convinced that Prana is scum then why vote for MS? And don't gimmie that crap "Its pro-town to follow the rest of the town!!!" Its still early in the day phase and I don't see why its so important that you needed to put him @ L-1 when you admit that you are more sure of Pranascum than MS scum.

Kat-Prana scum team?

vote:Kat

vote MS

Enough evidence to believe he is scum.

VOTE:Vezo

Care to try?

So RBT is an MS buddy (who is a Reck-scum buddy)

I'm getting lots of townreads from this game (MS, Fate,

RBT, Vezok

, Prana...)
~Dram~

What about a RBT, Vez, Reck group?

[PranaDevil]

So each scum member can kill and I SUPAH BUSSED a scumbuddy which lost my team a kill?

You still acted scummy as fuck on Day 2. Whether you admit that or not is up to you, but your actions damned sure weren't pro-town, even if the end result is we hit scum. Not a single thing you did to get to that point was pro-town, and if you are a lie detector role who nailed scum, then you got lucky. It has fuck all to do with you being good with what you were pulling yesterday.

SPEW MORE BULLSHIT SPECULATION PLEZ SCUM

Your views on why we have 2 "Destroyed" flavour kills last night, and had 3 the night before then. Go.

And Nero makes a great point, Katsuki is willing to throw someone away almost immediately the day starts instead of going after her main suspect. The day's barely begun, town have no reason to sheep and risk ending the day that quickly.

unvote
vote: Katsuki

[Fate]

I don't read the flavor Prana, just the posts people make. You should know this by now.

[Battousai]

Ok, based on the town reads of the two dead scum these players are the most likely scum:

MS, Fate, RBT, Vezok, Prana, Kdub, Nero Cain, Chronopie, Katsuki

With these players being mentioned in both lists: Fate, Midnight's Sorrow, Riceballtail

The following players are very anti-town: Katsuki, vezok and they get a boost.

Concerning night actions. Vig + 2 scum kills. Since there wasn't a distinction with the Reck flip, I assume that there is one multi player scum faction. Now there could be a SK or the mafia has an additional kill. No need to labor over this.

Vote: Katsuki

[Nero Cain]

Ok, based on the town reads of the

two dead scum

these players are the most likely scum:

[

Dead: 8

9. Zodiark13 - Kain Highwind (Delayed Tracker) - Lynched Day 1

15. DTMaster - ? - Destroyed Night 1

16. Iecerint - Adam "Kane Marcus" (Vanilla Townie) - Destroyed Night 1 - Revealed Night 2
17. MagnaofIllusion - Kuroki Kaze (Vanilla Townie) - Destroyed Night 1 - Revealed Night 2

3. Reckamonic - Sin (Destroyer) - Lynched Day 2

18. BunnyLover - ? - Destroyed Night 2
11. bv310 - ? - Destroyed Night 2

10. GummyBear

Starbuck

- Phoenix (Protector) - Left Night 2

There's only been ONE revealed scum. So this looks like a scum slip to me.

And dammit I really wanted Kat to be scum which means that I found an original scum read but noooooooooooooooooooo.....wich is probally why you and

maybe

Prana jumped on the wagon.

So right now I'm kinda thinkin' a Reck, BV?, Bat and someone else group with an SK.

[Fate]

Maybe bunny was scum like I said. Nero go check bunnys lists and if they match with Batts list then we have a third caught buddy /grin

[Battousai]

Nero- Ok, if Bunny isn't scum that would mean Fate lied and bussed Reck...

[Battousai]

Edit: BV? B fucking V? WHere was I when Fate said he lied on his scumlist?

[Battousai]

Edit Edit: townlist, not scumlist

[PranaDevil]

Right, we either have 3 scum all in one group, and all with "Destroyed" flavour, or we have two scum groups and a town mason group again (I don't believe we have 3 scum groups, though I guess it's possible if each is 2 scum big, but I'd still say that would leave town exceptionally underpowered against them)

So, if it's 1 scum group, the leaves text becomes strange as I'm not sure where to attribute it, nor why (as I said, it sounds more voluntary as well). It also means Batt's comment cannot be anything but a cock up because 2 people were still destroyed last night

If it's multiple, then Batt would be in the know about whether one of those "destroyed" is scum or not. It would also therefore lead to each group having a killer in their Destroyer. I'm assuming once that's gone, they would be forced to use other roles to do the kills (which would explain the "leaves" flavour).

Whether it's 2 scum and 1 town with the groups or 3 straight scum groups, I'm unsure, though at the moment I favour the first. (Although with us losing a delayed tracker and a protector, I'm a little unsure if that would work, unless that's two of three of our PR's gone already)

Either way, I do think Batt likely made a slip there, and as much as I would have loved to catch Katscum, it would appear she's likely to be town .

unvote
vote: Batt

[Fate]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Batt

Caught scum is caught.

Ill check the lists later but batt confirms he slipped that Bunny was scum

[vezokpiraka]

LOL. Battslip.

unvote
vote Batt

That is how you go down as scum.