I find that rather uncharitable of you, I really just missed it. I was using a much older post of IAI's to try to determine who could possibly have purged because it listed whether or not people had a D1 ability. After that I ISO'ed Saint's recent posts. I didn't think to check the cycling record, but should have. If you want to prove I'm fallible, it will be an easy point to prove.Saint wrote:pops, you're rapidly rising on the short list of people I have to stop myself from flaming. I just got in, and really SHOULDN'T be posting right now.
Saint did have a role at the beginning of the game, but it wasn't the Purge. You should be able to see this PLAIN AS DAY from the cycling chart, and since you're running on the assumption that nobody started with two abilities, I can only assume you're being thick.
IAI has missed my claims of not purging once or twice now, but I don't feel like flaming him, nor do you seem to want to do so on my behalf. Can't you grant me the same patience I've granted him?
Describing that the daykill required the virus to work heavily suggests it's not one shot, just off of design-mod-wifom. And they would certainly need to confirm that a daykill wasn't one shot before they grabbed it. Diddin said that the daykill had to be public iirc, so the power had a lot of accountability involved, so it's not necessarily something you'd steal based only on the inkling that it has more than one shot. Busdriver-cycling other players in the dark has the potential to grab an investigative role and subsequently send it to the void, or any number of other bright possibilities. Taking the second-lynch power simply gives the holder the option of killing a townie once the player thinks he's going to die anyway, which is basically what tmh did have to do after D2's day game.Saint wrote:
I was referring to diddin revealing that the daykill required the Virus to work. Seriously.
If scum COULD take a daykilling ability, they wouldn't need more information for it to be a good idea.
Ok, ok, there's some things I didn't consider carefully enough.Saint wrote:
While it is possible for someone to have not claimed a Purge N1, and therefore make it POSSIBLE that Goofball is Town, there are a number of things stacked against you.
*The game started with an odd number of players (25). Given that this game was designed pre-13-player-Minis, having an odd number of players is indicative of balancing for a single (or odd number of) extra killing element(s).
*Nobody has claimed a Purge N1, but nobody has claimed a Purge N3 either. chkflip was an -obvious- attempt to hit scum; Nero Cain wasn't quite so obvious but still likely an attempt to hit scum, so we can assume with reasonable security that a Townie was behind at least ONE of those hits.
*The difference between Goofball being confirmed Town and confirmed SK is whether someone comes and speaks up about the existence of a Purging element. It's -entirely safe- to do so at this point, because the ability has already cycled away. Any Townie is therefore OBLIGATED to corroborate her story.
*nhammen has already pointed out that the chkflip Purge was not claimed by anyone who has died so far. Ergo, the chkflip Purger is still alive.
*Goofball "forgot" to send in an cycle and doesn't know where it went, yet clearly read enough to know she had a kill and how to use it? That's actually LESS likely than tmh's story, and actually worse than ckd's..
I think I may have won a game or two off the back of "pops is too stupid to be scum", so I guess I might as well not object to this.Saint wrote:
And the best part is, we've been over almost all of that already.
What's frustrating is that having played with you before, I'm not sure it's abnormal for you to be this dense.
That's unpossible. That directly contradicts my modinfo for this game. Do you have any explanation for this inconsistency?DrippingGoofball wrote:No, that means I didn't have anything relating to a virus, ever.
Also, have some abilities disappeared that shouldn't have?
Imma go reread my pms for a third time.
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DGB you should have had more than two subroutines I don't know why you're saying you only had two. If you're not lying, the role is changing in some bastardly unfathomable way.
I only had one ability night one. It's the one I used to infect Stranger Coug with malaria, and it's the same one I passed to DGB. I don't know what's going on.
