Mini 1113 - Brotherhood of the Wolf Mafia

[UncertainKitten]

To be honest, I think CD has already well and proven himself to be a moron. I don't think he literally has enough brain cells to fakeclaim.

[AlmasterGM]

I'm back and I agree with UK on all relevant issues.

SC Wagon: FULL STEAM AHEAD.

However there is no fucking way I would choose a no lynch > CooLDoG, soooo if I need to swing at the last minute, I will.

[Mina]

Only CooLDoG would softclaim a power role when he's one of the top lynch options...AND THEN GO ON V/LA!

Only CooLDoG.

I'm pissed off that it came to this, but CooLDoG has to claim right now and pin himself to a role, both so we can evaluate the flavour based on the information, and so that someone can counterclaim if he's lying.

But fuck. Right now, I think CD is town, and StrangerCoug is so-so (I read SC in ISO last night when I was going to find his, and remembered why I found his questions and his probing into LMP links townish). And if SC is town, he's of more use than CD. But I need to decide who to push instead. Katsuki threatening to ragequit if we lynched CooLDoG is a bit of a towntell. I ISO'd GW and UT and started feeling better about both of them as well. Everyone is giving off a mix of towntells and scumtells.

More coming. But is there anyone other than Mariyta who'd be up for a lynch that isn't CooLDoG or StrangerCoug? I'm not sure if we can get enough votes on someone else by tomorrow. I'm so mad at myself. This is the same thing I always do, waffle over whom to vote until it's too late to affect anything.

[UncertainKitten]

I'm up for a UT or HF lynch.

[StrangerCoug]

But is there anyone other than Mariyta who'd be up for a lynch that isn't CooLDoG or StrangerCoug?

Zang can die in my opinion.

[Mina]

How's this?

VOTE: havingfitz

[Mina]

Actually, wait.

I just realized that vote doesn't count anyway, because I didn't unvote, but I've been rereading Katsuki in ISO, and just realized how wishy-washy and fluffy his opinions have been.

Would anyone be up for a Katsuki wagon instead of a havingfitz one?

[StrangerCoug]

I just realized that vote doesn't count anyway, because I didn't unvote, but I've been rereading Katsuki in ISO, and just realized how wishy-washy and fluffy his opinions have been.

Would anyone be up for a Katsuki wagon instead of a havingfitz one?

*also looks through Katsuki's iso*
*does not see a strong, concerted attempt at scumhunting*

...Yeah, I'll bite.

[GhostWriter]

Katsuki's been scum for me from the damn near get go. If this V/LA shit gets in the way with the deadline, I'll hammer a Katsuki wagon if need be. Assuming, of course, I don't get on it myself. Actually, screw it, we don't have time for a CD wagon with CD not here to slip and flail some more.

Unvote

VOTE: Katsuki

[UncertainKitten]

See, I like keeping Katsuki around because whoever he suspects tends to be town. It's like a reverse scumdar ^-^;.

I can get behind a Katsuki lynch if necessary.

[StrangerCoug]

Let's do this.

UNVOTE: CooLDoG
VOTE: Katsuki

[Mina]

Holy shit. I didn't think this would actually work.

So me, StrangerCoug, UK, and GW would vote him. Now we just need three more. I'm sure Mariyta would also vote that way.

Hmm. StrangerCoug, I'm just curious about something. Hasn't CooLDoG been your top suspect for a while?

Don't get me wrong. I'd like a Katsuki vote and all. But why are you willing to compromise on him when the counterwagon to you is one you're satisfied with?

Oh, and since you asked before what I meant about lying, it's this (quoting the entire pyramid for context):

-AKnottedRope, again, what do you think about havingfitz? And although Zang pestering everyone to give reasons for voting him is annoying, can you explain more of why Zang shot to the top of your suspect list?

So I'm supposed to let people vote for me for no reason at all?

Why are you jumping in here? Annoying ≠ scummy, and the question was directed at AKnottedRope.

I was not jumping in, I did not answer or comment on the question directed at AKR. Why are you jumping in here? My question was directed at Mina.

This is a straight-up lie.

Mina claimed, in the question to AKnottedRope, that you bugging the people on your wagon for vote reasons is annoying and you chime in by asking if people are supposed to just pile on you for the hell of it. Therefore, you jumped in.
UNVOTE: AlmasterGM
VOTE: Zang

So yes, the bulk of your accusation was that he was jumping in. But you calling him a liar felt like a misrep. Zang did not lie about the fact that he didn't answer my question to AKR. Also, in Zang's defence, the implication was there that I disliked his pestering people for votes (and therefore found it slightly scummy).

And although I also disliked his jumping in, the fact that you conveniently found Zang scummy for something small that occurred after his wagon took up steam also rubbed me the wrong way.

[Untrod Tripod]

I'm good with a Kat lynch. Kat has been straight up useless all day, and the ragequit threat is just lulzy. If Kat flips scum it will be very informative to reexamine the "reads" s/he posted. I find it had to get a read on Kat, and bearing the uselessness in mind the information gotten from a Kat lynch would be far more better for the town than a no lynch.

vote Katsuki

[AlmasterGM]

oooh and look at that scumteam swing to Katsuki.

LOOK AT THEM SWING.

If he flips town the team has pretty much just outed itself.

That said,

Unvote. Vote: Katsuki

CHOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOO

[Mina]

*stares at the thread in shock*

What...what have I created?

I'm not sure how I feel about this. Having power is scary.

[Untrod Tripod]

oooh and look at that scumteam swing to Katsuki.

LOOK AT THEM SWING.

If he flips town the team has pretty much just outed itself.

That said,

Unvote. Vote: Katsuki

CHOOO CHOOOOOOOOOOO

[Mina]

Hey, Mariyta! Just wondering about something. Can you explained what changed your mind between this:

Untrod Tripod (who I'm voting), Kats (for reasons listed in my re-read post), and HF, who, even though I re-read and apparently posted something about, I keep forgetting is even in this game (Kats reminded me this time). CD is just a VI, I believe LMP's claim, don't see the cases on SC and UK, and AGM had no reason to lie about being neighbors with Zang.

and this:

As much as I want to lynch CD, I really really really think it would be a poor mislynch. UT, HF, and AKR are much better choices.

[Untrod Tripod]

As for UK, matter of opinion. I think she is scum

See, I like keeping Katsuki around because whoever he suspects tends to be town.

Relevant. We have no flips yet.

[StrangerCoug]

Hmm. StrangerCoug, I'm just curious about something. Hasn't CooLDoG been your top suspect for a while?

Most of the time I've been pushing CooLDoG, I'd been linking him to AlmasterGM.

MAYBE

a tie with him for top during that time, but only briefly did he hold the top slot by himself. The reason I switched from Zang to CooLDoG is because I felt information could be gained about the claimed neighbors by leaving them alive. What, I don't want to supply to scum in case they plan on manipulating it, but for me to believe that AlmasterGM and Zang are both be scum requires a bastard mod, a multiball, or an SK, none of which are supported right now.

Don't get me wrong. I'd like a Katsuki vote and all. But why are you willing to compromise on him when the counterwagon to you is one you're satisfied with?

This is a tad unclear. Are you asking why I'm jumping off the counterwagon to me?

Trimming off the pyramid so I can get this to post:

So yes, the bulk of your accusation was that he was jumping in. But you calling him a liar felt like a misrep. Zang did not lie about the fact that he didn't answer my question to AKR. Also, in Zang's defence, the implication was there that I disliked his pestering people for votes (and therefore found it slightly scummy).

And although I also disliked his jumping in, the fact that you conveniently found Zang scummy for something small that occurred after his wagon took up steam also rubbed me the wrong way.

The lie was that he didn't jump in when, in fact, he did, and your post aligns with this thinking. It's true that Zang didn't answer your question for AKnottedRope and asked you a question himself, but that's it.

[UncertainKitten]

@UT: Prior experience with Katsuki.

[Untrod Tripod]

My bad, UK, I didn't know that at all. Consider that comment rescinded.

[havingfitz]

I'm up for a

UT or

HF lynch.

OMGUS.

How's this?

VOTE: havingfitz

Any reasons? And your post

one minute

later that stated how you didn't vote me right made no sense. Why not just vote me right?

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CD apparently gets a bye today for a softclaim and being v/LA. AGM and Zang get a bye for being neighbors and therefore more than likely town(?).

A quick ISO on Kat does not convince me that she is scum. If she does flip scum I could definitely see her being scum with UK. Still like my vote on UK. Town should move to her.

I’ve only played one game with UK before that I can recall and she was gone after D1 (and none of her D1 reads were right iirc). I don’t recall if she was as unpleasant a player in that game as this one but her reaction to my initial vote on her makes her as good or better a D1 suspect as any other.

A bit overdue but….

More like I don't suffer idiocy. Because your vote is utterly stupid for several reasons.

1)The Zang wagon didn't have much activity by the time I jumped on it, and I weighed WHY I did it.
2)Vote Count Analysis only works when you have flips. You don't have anything concrete to stand on, so your vote amounts to utter bullshit because you thought you saw a trend. Good job.
3)If you look at my posting history, for the most part it's been fairly pro town. The fact you just assume that one vote can suddenly reveal my motivations reveals you are a TERRIBLE mafia player.

Why don't you try hard?

Suspecting you doesn’t make anyone an idiot or a moron. No need to be such a *censored*. Drink less/more coffee, get laid, or pop a few Midol please.

1) The fact you changed your mind about the Zang wagon doesn’t absolve you of hopping on it to begin with...and without reason.

2) VCA gets better as the days pass I agree. On D1 looking at voting patterns are just as good a reason IMO as any to try and find scum. It’s are better than giving no reason which you seem fond of doing. With the AGM&Zang neighbor claim....if we are to give them the benefit of the doubt (today at least) that they are town neighbors....then that's almost as good as a town flip when considering the wagon that built up on Zang.

3) You are posting as much or more than anyone but the majority of your posts have little or no content and are just short comments that are of no assistance in finding scum. Providing your opinion of your own posting history is hilarious. Can I try? My posts are pro town too. Anyone else think their posts are pro town?

Scum only make anti-town posts so that should help us narrow the field down. [/sarcasm]

tl:dr;

UK is scummy and I still like my vote on her.

[Untrod Tripod]

Suspecting you doesn’t make anyone an idiot or a moron. No need to be such a *censored*. Drink less/more coffee, get laid, or pop a few Midol please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbKZHqov ... re=related
Relevant

I'm not saying I disagree with the first sentence. But....DAMN there were better ways to say that.

[Katsuki]

@UT: Prior experience with Katsuki.

Drhunk and all right now but this statement of your meta on me is PURE AND UTTER BS.

TWO GAMES YOU HAVE PLYED WITH ME

ONE AS SCUM
2ND I CALLED FOR A POLICY LYNCH, THEN YOU GUYS QUICKLYNCHED WHILE I WAS AWAY FOR HOLIDAYS

WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS META OF ME CALLING WHOEVER IS SCUM = TOWN FROM?


HONEST;Y UK IS SCUMMMMMMMMMMM

[Katsuki]

IN THAT SECOND GAME I NEVER GOT PAST PAGE5.