Mini 1113 - Brotherhood of the Wolf Mafia

[havingfitz]

v/LA until Sunday

[StrangerCoug]

While it's implied that you think Reckamonic's miller claim is fake when you vote him, you never directly address it, which needlessly throws me for a loop.

I didn't imply anything. In fact, I didn't mention the miller claim at all because I don't care and it doesn't affect the read.

There is no such thing as a scum miller the last time I checked, and you either believe the miller claim or you don't. Your vote on him tells me you don't.

Metaing a good player doesn't work. You claim that something you usually see in his town play is absent, so he's scum. As most people try to play to their town meta regardless of alignment, I wanted you to supply a scum motivation for his actions.

And most scum are going to try and play to a "town motivation" too, aren't they? But it doesn't always work, because even if you are very good player, it's hard. The same applies to meta. Sure, you are going to TRY and fake townmeta, but sometimes emotions get the best of you slip up.

That it's hard if not impossible to play perfectly to a town meta is accepted, but we're back to where we started. Everybody has bad days. Why do xRECKONERx's and dramonic's bad days condemn them?

Also, I asked for your opinion on GhostWriter since he's pushing the same thing on CooLDoG as I am on you. What do you think of him?

StrangerCoug: I never got around to explaining my problems with him. For one thing, his stance on Katsuki made no sense. Like, no fucking sense whatsoever. Seriously. "Katsuki, why are you accusing Mariyta of leading a scum wagon on." "Never mind, I misunderstood that. UNVOTE." "Yeah, actually, come to think of it, I

will

revote Katsuki now that you're pressuring me, because babble babble something about my mouth and foot and red blue green pineapple 42." Can you explain your thought process behind your vote, unvote, and revote of Katsuki? I feel as though I'm missing something important.

I decided that I was wasting energy on the way Katsuki was dealing with the wagon when I was not voting her.

Add to that his lame vote on Reckamonic (which he STILL hasn't acknowledged), and the hypocrisy surrounding his read on AGM.

Could you clarify the hypocrisy bit?

(On a side note, the SC vs. AGM battle is ridiculous. "You're scummy because MY reason for suspecting Reckamonic is sooooooo much superior to yours." Guys, why don't you settle your differences and realize that

both

of your reasons suck?

*cue LMP flipping scum, because this happens every time I arrogantly proclaim a town read*

)

Well, given I've decided that I see a AlmasterGM/CooLDoG/LynchMePls scumteam as ridiculous and I have a genuine belief that AGM and CD are connected...

@UK - Haha, not EVERYONE who calls me scum is scum. It's just SC and AKR happened to be so blinded by the AWESOMENESS of my scumhunting they had no choice but to flail, go into OMGUS-mode, and otherwise be scummy.

You've been flailing quite a bit yourself, my friend.

[CooLDoG]

sorry for not posting, post coming.

[CooLDoG]

1) It was right after a post of yours that was particularly scummy and opportunistic.

Just like my post voting CooLDoG was right after a stupid and scummy post made by CooLDoG. BUT OH WAIT, YOU CALLED THAT SCUMMY, DIDN'T YOU?

See the bolded. Apparently, you can use that excuse just fine, but attack me for the exact same thing in your next paragraph. Ok, whatever. Scum

GOOD MOTHER OF GOD.

This ACTUALLY makes me mad. YES. YES. YES. THATS THE FUCKING POINT. YOU HAVE A DOUBLE STANDARD. YOU SAY IM SCUMMY FOR VOTING COOLDOG WITH NO REASON, BUT YOU DID THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING WHEN YOU CALLED ME SUMMY.

And now I'm "floundering?" THE FUCK? I'M DESTROYING YOUR LOGIC ON EVERY LEVEL. IF ANYONE'S FLOUNDERING HERE, IT"S YOU.

SCUMLIST

COOLDOG
STRANGERCOUG
AKNOTTED ROPE

In a catch up post here I am... I swear this is the most common logical fallacy used on this site. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this. The name of the fallacy is "You Too". While him having a double standard is bad, it does not make your actions any better.

I also could have sword that I posted on page 14 but apparently not...

[CooLDoG]

Damn, I should really stop this posting as I got style but I forget things if I don't sorry for mega triple posting.

@zang, yeah I do agree with that. And I agree with your point on mary, but you really need to improve your play (says the guy who agrees that he is a moron)

@mary, how bout one of them there cases on me. I get tyred of the "he used meta only" argument. And if the quote zang had on you was your case, you really need a new one.

AKR is shooting an m60 from the fip at the whole town. He's jumping all over and has no focus of attack. Seems like weak attempt to act like scum hunting. Just my read.

@AKR, in your mind who isn't scum, so far acording to you UK, mary, AKM, CooLDoG (love 3rd person *punned*), SC, and zang are all scum according to you. That's about half the town comment?

@mina, wow I didn't know you could spell my name correctly in a CAPS RANT.

[LimMePls]

Probably not a good plan to tell us to read back through your ISO. In doing so, I notice there's very little in it

Hey, dumbass, that's cause I'm a replacement. Are you really this stupid?

[AKnottedRope]

@AKR, in your mind who isn't scum, so far acording to you UK, mary, AKM, CooLDoG (love 3rd person *punned*), SC, and zang are all scum according to you. That's about half the town comment?

Nope. My top three are You and AGM just about tied for first with zang being a close third.

[AKnottedRope]

Clarification: My top three being those that I have a good scumread on. Everyone else is neutral or leaning town.

[AKnottedRope]

Forgive my triple post

@zang, yeah I do agree with that. And I agree with your point on mary, but you really need to improve your play (says the guy who agrees that he is a moron)

If either Zang or CD flip scum, then I'd be willing to bet the other is as well because of this quote.

[CooLDoG]

@AKR, not an issue on your top three. You have according to your posts 6-7 scum reads. I don't care what your top three are what I care about is the fact that you have 6 people down as scummy.

[CooLDoG]

Probably not a good plan to tell us to read back through your ISO. In doing so, I notice there's very little in it

Hey, dumbass, that's cause I'm a replacement. Are you really this stupid?

Okay, fine, I get that you are a replacement. But you have posted

no

content. Yes, I have read your iso full of fluff. Get in the game and post. How does your above post help the town? Try scum hunting for a change. Also we are in Day-1 its not like we are half-way through a game.

[AKnottedRope]

Clarification: My top three being those that I have a good scumread on. Everyone else is neutral or leaning town.

[CooLDoG]

I read that part. But that still doesn't answer my question. You have constantly accused those players of being scum. And Does that mean that all the other people that you have called scummy aren't scummy anymore?

[Untrod Tripod]

Probably not a good plan to tell us to read back through your ISO. In doing so, I notice there's very little in it

Hey, dumbass, that's cause I'm a replacement. Are you really this stupid?

Almost all of your posts were on page 8 (the two with "content" were, to make matters worse). I loved the part where you left out the rest of what I said and didn't respond to it. That's tech.

[AKnottedRope]

CD: am I not allowed to call certain aspects, however minor, of a person's play scummy without having a scumread on them?

[Zang]

I gave my case. You even quoted it, genius. And I've already answered all of your questions.

Yes, I know. I kept that there to show that you gave no reason for your vote.

Where did you explain why you didn't give any reasons for your vote and refuse to give them when originally asked?

@Zang - stop being noobtown and improve, thx.

That would be easier if people gave reasons for voting me instead of just saying that how I post is scummy or giving no reason at all.

[Mariyta]

I gave my case. You even quoted it, genius. And I've already answered all of your questions.

Yes, I know. I kept that there to show that you gave no reason for your vote.

Where did you explain why you didn't give any reasons for your vote and refuse to give them when originally asked?

I really don't understand what your issue is here. You

quoted

my reasons for voting. Are you asking why I didn't state it when I actually voted? Because it wasn't really necessary at the time. It should have been obvious to anyone reading him. Katsuki hadn't really been reading the game, though, so I put it in a nice, concise post for her.

[CooLDoG]

CD: am I not allowed to call certain aspects, however minor, of a person's play scummy without having a scumread on them?

Not when you implicate over half the town. When I say I feel that someone is scummy I mean it. I mean that they have a realistic chance of being scum. If I see a tell (like right now) I won't call you scummy.

But, to my original point (most likely poorly stated ), You have called 6 (or more) players scummy. Is there a possibility that all of them are scum (no)? So I ask, why are you taking time and energy to maintain that all of those have a legitimate chance of being town. Would it not be better to focus your attacks on your 3 topic suspects (which you haven't I might add) instead of taking shotgun scumhunting?

Farther to note, in your posts you never made a distinction as to which were really scummy and which were you were getting bad vibes from. Until now there has been no distinction between the two.

[LimMePls]

Probably not a good plan to tell us to read back through your ISO. In doing so, I notice there's very little in it

Hey, dumbass, that's cause I'm a replacement. Are you really this stupid?

Okay, fine, I get that you are a replacement. But you have posted

no

content. Yes, I have read your iso full of fluff. Get in the game and post. How does your above post help the town? Try scum hunting for a change. Also we are in Day-1 its not like we are half-way through a game.

Full of fluff? No.

[AlmasterGM]

In a catch up post here I am... I swear this is the most common logical fallacy used on this site. I can't tell you how many times I've seen this. The name of the fallacy is "You Too". While him having a double standard is bad, it does not make your actions any better.

You have totally misunderstood the argument. I am not trying to defend my actions at all. My SOLE point is that AKR has a double standard and is effectively calling himself scum.

@AKR, in your mind who isn't scum, so far acording to you UK, mary, AKM, CooLDoG (love 3rd person *punned*), SC, and zang are all scum according to you. That's about half the town comment?

Nope. My top three are You and AGM just about tied for first with zang being a close third.

This post actually makes me warm up to CooLDoG-town and AKR-scum.

Unvote. Vote: AKR

[UncertainKitten]

So, anyway, you all lost me a couple pages back and I'm not sure how. At some point I'm going to have to reread the game, hopefully after I cook dinner tonight (since I have worky type stuff to do in the meantime).

[Katsuki]

Skimmed up to page 14 (kinda glanced over this page).

AT LEAST I FOUND SOME SCUMZ DURING MY CATCH UP.

UNVOTE, VOTE: AGM

[AlmasterGM]

Skimmed up to page 14 (kinda glanced over this page).

AT LEAST I FOUND SOME SCUMZ DURING MY CATCH UP.

UNVOTE, VOTE: AGM

No. Try again.

[Katsuki]

I would be down with a CooLDoG lynch.

"Ooo Cooldog looks like a yummy yummy possible wagon, but I don't wanna look scummy though. Let's test the water"

I would be down with a CooLDoG lynch.

I'm starting to lean this way, too. He keeps posting, but doesn't really say too much.

/support

Unvote. Vote: CooLDoG

WHEEEEEEEEEE

AHOY!
Unvote and VOTE: CooLDoG

Completely ignores the last point of the CD's reasoning for voting reckdra, focused on strawmanning the worser reasons.

P-EDIT: NO U

[Katsuki]

There were other AGM posts but I'm too tired to go and dig them out at the moment.