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Post Post #100 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:21 am

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I like this one. Can I keep him?!?
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Post Post #101 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:22 am

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Dutch one wrote:DGB, I know you are making a list like this a lot (other people say that, so I assume that is true), but it's an easy tactic to place yourself in the "town" list. With making this list you more influence in the lynching system because it makes people almost think they have to prove themself that they are townies. And because it's your list, because you are doing this often and because you placed yourself in the townie-list, you don't have to prove anyone, and you get away with it.
I'm not saying that I think you are scum (not yet), but I do think you are trying to make yourself look innocent in a sneaky way. I think you are just doing this to gain influence.
If you want to make a list like this that again (with a good intention): "Don't place yourself anywhere in the list". You look scummy if you do that. Then you are just waiting for someone to critisize it

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Post Post #102 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:40 am

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Woot for inexplicably linking to me, Dutchie my boy. I like how you laid out all your thoughts, though I generally disagree with your conclusions re: DGB. It IS everyone's duty to prove themselves Town to a majority number of other Town members, but I don't think list-making is sneaky by any means. I'd rather judge DGB on her reasoning for the rest of her list and not the mere fact she placed herself as Town.
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Post Post #103 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:40 am

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Dutch one wrote:...but it's an easy tactic to place yourself in the "town" list.

...because you placed yourself in the townie-list, you don't have to prove anyone, and you get away with it.

...but I do think you are trying to make yourself look innocent in a sneaky way.

...If you want to make a list like this that again (with a good intention): "Don't place yourself anywhere in the list".
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Post Post #104 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:42 am

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Cyberbob wrote:
Dutch one wrote:DGB, I know you are making a list like this a lot (other people say that, so I assume that is true), but it's an easy tactic to place yourself in the "town" list. With making this list you more influence in the lynching system because it makes people almost think they have to prove themself that they are townies. And because it's your list, because you are doing this often and because you placed yourself in the townie-list, you don't have to prove anyone, and you get away with it.
I'm not saying that I think you are scum (not yet), but I do think you are trying to make yourself look innocent in a sneaky way. I think you are just doing this to gain influence.
If you want to make a list like this that again (with a good intention): "Don't place yourself anywhere in the list". You look scummy if you do that. Then you are just waiting for someone to critisize it

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Post Post #105 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:43 am

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Xalxe wrote:I like this one. Can I keep him?!?
Another one? I'm going to need to have my organ of laughter removed if I want to live.
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Post Post #106 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:46 am

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Oh DGB, you and your assuming we can read your freakish mind.

If you've got a comment, spit it out. Don't just assume we understand all your criticisms.
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Post Post #107 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:46 am

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Oh damn, you caught me DGB!

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Post Post #108 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:51 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Cyberbob wrote:
Dutch one wrote:DGB, I know you are making a list like this a lot (other people say that, so I assume that is true), but it's an easy tactic to place yourself in the "town" list. With making this list you more influence in the lynching system because it makes people almost think they have to prove themself that they are townies. And because it's your list, because you are doing this often and because you placed yourself in the townie-list, you don't have to prove anyone, and you get away with it.
I'm not saying that I think you are scum (not yet), but I do think you are trying to make yourself look innocent in a sneaky way. I think you are just doing this to gain influence.
If you want to make a list like this that again (with a good intention): "Don't place yourself anywhere in the list". You look scummy if you do that. Then you are just waiting for someone to critisize it

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You know, I actually find myself agreeing with much of this.
You guys are killing me.
I don't think you're scummy for it but, intentional or not, it does kind of create that feeling of "oh gosh I can't challenge DGB what if she ~spontaneously turns on me~" in other people's minds. Not always the healthiest thing.
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Post Post #109 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:51 am

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Heyy....

It's nice to wake up to 5 pages of stuff

Runner wrote:If a post restriction means what I think it means, you just wasted a post.
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?tit ... estriction

To ask a few questions:

What is your time zone? So people don't blame you for lurking when you've actually been sleeping.
Do you believe that people will do stupid things to try and be smart?


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Post Post #110 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:55 am

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Xalxe wrote:...Don't just assume we understand all your criticisms.
Jokes aren't as funny if you have to explain them, but alright. Dutch one is making it sound, emphasizing with repetition, that listing myself as town on MY town list is clever, devilish, devious, influential, and a really powerful ploy. But really, people would have to be complete morons to fall for something that I've done in virtually every game, for years, especially since I never "fooled" anyone with this before. So, I'm just cracking up at the thought of this particular bunch of players having to be the dumbest ever assembled, for Dutch one's argument to carry any weight.
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Post Post #111 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:56 am

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Jerbs wrote:@Dutch

Are you scum? If not, why are you lying?
WOW... this guy
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Post Post #112 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:59 am

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Cyberbob wrote:I don't think you're scummy for it but, intentional or not, it does kind of create that feeling of "oh gosh I can't challenge DGB what if she ~spontaneously turns on me~" in other people's minds. Not always the healthiest thing.
Putting myself on my own town list does that?

And there I was thinking it might have been my habit of spontaneously turning on people.
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Post Post #113 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:06 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Cyberbob wrote:I don't think you're scummy for it but, intentional or not, it does kind of create that feeling of "oh gosh I can't challenge DGB what if she ~spontaneously turns on me~" in other people's minds. Not always the healthiest thing.
Putting myself on my own town list does that?

And there I was thinking it might have been my habit of spontaneously turning on people.
Man, the first time I read his post it totally looked like the whole thing wasn't about putting yourself on the list specifically. The behaviour I'm talking about is what I described in the first dotpoint on the list in Post 96.

All this line of reasoning seemed a lot more coherent in my head, honest.
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Post Post #114 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:07 am

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UNLYNCHABLE PGO

Korlash

TOWN

DrippingGoofball (mason fakeclaim town-tell)
InHim (town self-read town-tell)
SpyreX (every word he posts town-tell)
Runner (post restriction nagging town-tell)
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Gorrad (buying DGB chocolates questionabletell, but Seraphimscum seems to know Gorrad is town counter-tell)
Antihero (taking Korlash literally questionable-tell)
iamausername (bus'ing Antihero in late RVS questionable-tell)
Seraphim (Seems to know that Gorrad is town questionable-tell)
werewolf555 (hasn't posted yet for fear of early-game mental meltdown questionable-tell, outlook: darkening)
Red Coyote (IIoA questionable-tell, has not found scum yet questionable-tell, outlook: darkening)
farside (hasn't found me scum yet questionable-tell)

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curiouskarmadog ("
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Post Post #115 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:09 am

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Difficult thing about Large games... lots of people to keep track of...

My timezone is GMT (+0).

And that can be some wifom. I think I've seen it been done before. Mafia act stupid and are consistent in doing so and every now and then put in a conclusion that other people think is okay as he wouldn't be this stupid - too scummy to be scum. Am I interpreting this correctly?

I don't see the cases on Gorrad and Chevre here, can anyone help?

I'm sure we've left the post restriction thing behind us now - as someone said a pointless incident.

DGB looked to me suspicious up until about now. Dutch one has good reason and content in his recent post, to which DGB "laughed off". Then you come up with some meta, which I doubt mafia would do. So for the moment, I'm a bit neutral on you. Also taking into account your lists, which seem to be a bit random.
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Post Post #116 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:29 am

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DGB, I notice that you are not voting currently, which I find uncharacteristic. Who do you feel deserves a vote?
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Post Post #117 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 6:48 am

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@DGB, if you really didn't care and if you really laughed about it, then you wouldn't react so extreme like you did.

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Gorrad, that vote isn't really up-to-date anymore
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Post Post #118 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 7:17 am

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Lying for giggles has to stop.

So, nocase + inhim don't have PR's? Anti doesn't have a PR?
SpyreX: could you explain the Gorrad vote?
Its not the self vote.

It's 6 posts worth of backwards progression (flaker callout, claim request, fluff,x3).

However, the kicker is:
Dutch, you're new here so slack shall be cut. Look up the Random Voting Stage in the wiki. Basically, at the start of the game a whole bunch of people are silly and vote randomly. Then one person says 'OMG the RVS suxxorz' and there's a big debate over whether or not to have an RVS. Depending on which side has more, either the most vocal person for or against the RVS is the D1 lynch. The game proceeds from there.

For those who would call me out on this, the above is satire. Satire is a type of social commentary that uses sarcasm and hyperbole (not the round thing, that's a hyperbola. Hyperbole is exaggeration), possibly in conjunction with juxtaposition.
This is "lol, RVS" (combined with "lol, jokes" earlier) as a rationale for what happened.

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Post Post #119 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:23 am

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SpyreX, Gorrad is scum, yes, but what about Dutch one?
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Post Post #120 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:29 am

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Undecided. I think I need a bit more but he feels like that fresh fish trying his best versus the scumbolina kind.
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Post Post #121 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:31 am

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my restriction claim was a white lie, not a joke, if that refers to me.

unvote. vote: runner.
i've got one eye still fixed on gorrad but that last post by runner smelled really funny.

what was dutch one's lie?
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Post Post #122 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:32 am

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Its a white lie that seems to have a small armada following it.

I dont like it.
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Post Post #123 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:50 am

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Cyberbob wrote: - Seraphim's Post 69 is pretty suss, Korlash is more suspicious for similar reasons though (just more of it)
Vote: Korlash
Actually WTF. You're no longer on the Town list. Say one thing, vote another much?

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Post Post #124 (ISO) » Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:51 am

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spy, i don't see any others. :|

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