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Post Post #4625 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:31 am

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fff the frog. Big's gifts were items from the trading sequence, it's so obvious.
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Post Post #4626 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:31 am

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I'm sad that you retracted the mason QT. I was hoping it would be an interesting read D:
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Post Post #4627 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:31 am

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Ythan wrote:
Katsuki wrote:confirmation biasThough, we had a very valid reason as to why his play was scummy from a debating standpoint, as my other head had outlined. :/
Katsuki wrote:confirmation bias
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Post Post #4628 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:32 am

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DTMaster wrote:1. When Ythan claimed, I understood all his actions, especially why he literally tried to get you offed Katsuki (ability counter claim lulz).
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Post Post #4629 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:32 am

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Ythan wrote:fff the frog. Big's gifts were items from the trading sequence, it's so obvious.
Tee hee.

BTW, what did everyone think about the unique mechanics of the scumteams? IE, Poe scum get action multipliers, and Boss scum each get a unique way to perform the factional kill.
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Post Post #4630 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:32 am

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Katsuki wrote:confirmation biasThough, we had a very valid reason as to why his play was scummy from a debating standpoint, as my other head had outlined. :/
Katsuki wrote:confirmation bias
The confirmation bias stemmed from your playstyle.
Don't blame me if you tunnel people who hurt your feelings.
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Post Post #4631 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:32 am

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DTMaster wrote:I'm sad that you retracted the mason QT. I was hoping it would be an interesting read D:
Nothing there. ^^

You were right that I was playing this game through the QT though. I hardly kept up with the game... since my other hydra head had no time to play the game.
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Post Post #4632 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:33 am

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Ythan wrote:
Katsuki wrote:
Ythan wrote:
Katsuki wrote:confirmation biasThough, we had a very valid reason as to why his play was scummy from a debating standpoint, as my other head had outlined. :/
Katsuki wrote:confirmation bias
The confirmation bias stemmed from your playstyle.
Don't blame me if you tunnel people who hurt your feelings.
Feelings had nothing to do with it.

It was scummy from a debating standpoint.
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Post Post #4633 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:33 am

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Also, we openly admit that we fudged a bit of the flavor in order to balance the game a bit more. But we tried our best to stay true to the game while also creating a fun setup.
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Post Post #4634 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:34 am

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Ythan wrote:It's one thing to have a potential mod lynch influence the game somewhat but another to not give town a way to find out that not breaking normal play to lynch the mod will drastically reduce their chances at winning.
3 masons, one PGO, one action-immunizer and one busdriver, confirmed to each other.
Something had to be done to weaken then.

The idea was that if a mason was driven up to lynch range he'd die automatically because the three of them becoming confirmed town was very very crippling to the scum (see, Poe scum never touched them because they thought the three were PGOs... seriously, 3 PGO and a reflexive CPR doc in one setup???)

Of course, if the mason decide to claim early and the scum goes all paranoid this kinda stuff was bound to happen eventually.

Also, you used the OoT at the worst possible time, so that didnt really help either (granted, you didnt know that).


ninja'ed, a lot.

Lots of things came into play to make the town lose on a twist.
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Post Post #4635 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:34 am

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DTMaster wrote:I'm sad that you retracted the mason QT. I was hoping it would be an interesting read D:
Saved it. :P
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Post Post #4636 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:35 am

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Katsuki wrote:
Ythan wrote:
Katsuki wrote:
Ythan wrote:
Katsuki wrote:confirmation biasThough, we had a very valid reason as to why his play was scummy from a debating standpoint, as my other head had outlined. :/
Katsuki wrote:confirmation bias
The confirmation bias stemmed from your playstyle.
Don't blame me if you tunnel people who hurt your feelings.
Feelings had nothing to do with it.

It was scummy from a debating standpoint.
If other players were able to not tunnel me maybe it's not me.
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Post Post #4637 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:36 am

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I kind of wish I knew about being able to lynch the mod in this game...

I didn't realize one could do that... :X
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Post Post #4638 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:36 am

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it has a lot of swearing in it, that QT
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Post Post #4639 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:37 am

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The main change I would have done in retrospect was being around the night DGB killed Beef via Ythan and suggesting that we should focus on linking instead. It could have been a bigger bloodbath D:.
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Post Post #4640 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:37 am

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@Diddin: It didn't matter that we let DTM slide the last few days.

Our plan at least was to weed out the obv scum first, and let process of elimination yield scum.

I mean, D5 (or 6), we had 10 players, with 3 confirmed town (LLD, zwet and myself). You had 1 town out of the sages (AKR/mothrax). That left one town out of vezok, ythan, ABR, DTM and DGB.

So really, we couldn't go wrong at that point...
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Post Post #4641 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:38 am

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Deku Tree has the most convoluted role PM. I still don't get exactly what it does.
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Post Post #4642 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:38 am

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I kind of wish I knew about being able to lynch the mod in this game...

I didn't realize one could do that... :X
This.

In retrospect, we COULDVE won... had we realized mods were in the game.........................................
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Post Post #4643 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:39 am

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I have to thank Reckamonic for creating a game of epic complexity, and devotedly modding it to completion. Great team work, kids.

It was great fun for the players - the randomness and shifts and surprised were unpredictable, but quite a hoot. It was beyond the "trying to figure it out" range, so everyone was forced to wing it in a bizarro universe.
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Post Post #4644 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:40 am

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The Gandondorf role was fine for balancing the Masons IMO, but the Auto-hammer at 3 person endgame is more than a LITTLE bastardly.

But I suppose that's the name of the game...

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That QT was my personal hell for (was it 4 months?).

Let me re-state that. This game was my personal hell for 4 months.

I looked back at how I played the game in the early going. I'd of lynched my ass too. Reading my posts... holy shit. @_@

I'm going to have to apologize :S
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Post Post #4645 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:40 am

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Reckamonic wrote:3 masons, one PGO, one action-immunizer and one busdriver, confirmed to each other.
Something had to be done to weaken then.
I don't want to drag this one so I will just call you a BASTARD mod.
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Post Post #4646 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:41 am

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Considering in a balanced game 3 mislynches is a townloss, you guys weren't very deserving :P
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Post Post #4647 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:41 am

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Ythan wrote:
Katsuki wrote:
Ythan wrote:
Katsuki wrote:[quote="Ythan
The confirmation bias stemmed from your playstyle.
Don't blame me if you tunnel people who hurt your feelings.
Feelings had nothing to do with it.

It was scummy from a debating standpoint.
If other players were able to not tunnel me maybe it's not me.[/quote]

lol. We trusted nika's original read on you being scum.

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But in all honesty, there was a 60-page span in the game that both heads completely skipped.

Once you claimed though, I understood why you played the way you played.
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Post Post #4648 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:41 am

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Honestly, it took until after Day 4 for the town to actually lynch scum, so it's not like it was amazing play... I am moderately satisfied that scum won.

Basically, as the game went on, the Great Deku Tree could only target people from a limited range, and that range was centered around who he last addressed in a post before the day's end.
Kats wrote:In retrospect, we COULDVE won... had we realized mods were in the game.........................................
Except that the mods showed up in a votecount on D1.
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Post Post #4649 (ISO) » Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:42 am

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Lady Lambdadelta wrote:The Gandondorf role was fine for balancing the Masons IMO, but the Auto-hammer at 3 person endgame is more than a LITTLE bastardly.

But I suppose that's the name of the game...

P-Edit:
That QT was my personal hell for (was it 4 months?).

Let me re-state that. This game was my personal hell for 4 months.

I looked back at how I played the game in the early going. I'd of lynched my ass too. Reading my posts... holy shit. @_@

I'm going to have to apologize :S
I think you improved over the course of the game though. Apologies for the frustrations exhibited by both heads though.
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