Mini 245 - Stick Figures Mafia - Game Over!

BabyJesus · Post Post #400 (ISO) » Wed Dec 14, 2005 7:33 am

Changling bob wrote:
vote: BJ

Gogo circle-jerk logic.

I do however agree that neither myself nor Tyfo should be lynch, despite the fact that one of us is scum.

I also still have a bad-ish feeling about blackberry, although I'm not too sure about that.

you're not helping your cause here, guy.

BabyJesus · Post Post #401 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:44 am

Blackberry wrote:*juggles his balls, glances around at everyone suspisciously*

Ok... First off, I don't understand the reason we aren't lynching a claimed townie. It'd be better than forcing someone else to claim and outting a power-role.

Further more, Changing Bob seems to WANT to out power-roles, unless I am mistaken. CB strongly disregarded the lynch of a townie, which would infer he would rather see a power-role claimed.

We have had no night, a townie lynch would be the best for us now, unstead of outing a Doctor or a Cop who haven't even had time to do an investigation.

*throws a ball and hits Changling Bob's face*

Unvote

Vote: Changling Bob

noted here that Blackberry claimed to want to lynch the claimed townie, but never did, instead moving to Changling Bob, and later Tyfo....

mathcam · Post Post #402 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:14 am

CB wrote: I do however agree that neither myself nor Tyfo should be lynch, despite the fact that one of us is scum.

Whoa, really? Why do you say that?

Cam

Changling bob · Post Post #403 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:45 am

mathcam wrote:
CB wrote: I do however agree that neither myself nor Tyfo should be lynch, despite the fact that one of us is scum.
Whoa, really? Why do you say that?

Cam

Because if we don't the scum have to make the first move. As soon as that happens, we're one for one, good for town.
Otherwise, we have the chance of tieing up two lynches in a row while scum get free pot shots, or otherwise we go one for one. However, if we wait for scum, we get more use out of the doc ability before I die.

BabyJesus · Post Post #404 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 7:05 am

Still like a Blackberry lynch right now.

Bacde · Post Post #405 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:52 am

I actually agree with BJ here on blackberry. He has been giving me bad vibes all game.

Vote: Blackberry

mathcam · Post Post #406 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:32 pm

No, I meant: Why are you so certain that one of you is scum?

Cam

BabyJesus · Post Post #407 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:07 pm

mathcam wrote:No, I meant: Why are you so certain that one of you is scum?

Cam

2 docs in a mini is pretty uncommon, yes?

mathcam · Post Post #408 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:16 pm

Not uncommon enough for me to declare outright that one of them has to be scum.

In any case, if you really think that one of them is scum, I'm positive the right move is to lynch one of them. Best-case scenario is that we lynch scum right away,

and

there's a better than 50/50 shot at hitting this best-case scenario. Note that this "going one-for-one" is the best we can ever hope to do. The worst-case scenario is that we tie up two lynches with a guarantee of nailing scum at the end...this is

excellent

compared to any other plan we attempt to enact. Is there anyone out there who wants to guarantee me that if we lynch blackberry today and he turns out to be pro-town, that our next lynch tomorrow will

definitely

be scum?

Finally, keeping the real doc alive is not of paramount importance. The docs ability is only occasionally useful, whereas getting rid of scum

is

paramount. Lynching one of the claimed docs has to be right play, today. I think CB has acted significantly scummier than Tyfo, but CB has the advantage of having claimed second...a fairly ballsy move for scum to make.

Cam

BabyJesus · Post Post #409 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2005 6:00 pm

mathcam wrote:Not uncommon enough for me to declare outright that one of them has to be scum.

In any case, if you really think that one of them is scum, I'm positive the right move is to lynch one of them. Best-case scenario is that we lynch scum right away,
and
there's a better than 50/50 shot at hitting this best-case scenario. Note that this "going one-for-one" is the best we can ever hope to do. The worst-case scenario is that we tie up two lynches with a guarantee of nailing scum at the end...this is
excellent
compared to any other plan we attempt to enact. Is there anyone out there who wants to guarantee me that if we lynch blackberry today and he turns out to be pro-town, that our next lynch tomorrow will
definitely
be scum?

Finally, keeping the real doc alive is not of paramount importance. The docs ability is only occasionally useful, whereas getting rid of scum
is
paramount. Lynching one of the claimed docs has to be right play, today. I think CB has acted significantly scummier than Tyfo, but CB has the advantage of having claimed second...a fairly ballsy move for scum to make.

Cam

1) I do think one is scum, but I disagree we should lynch one today.
2) The doc ability is pretty damn useful while the cop is still alive, no?

Karo · Post Post #410 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:06 am

I'm with you on this, as long as we keep both of the claimed docs in mind for later.

Unvote, Vote: Blackberry

BabyJesus · Post Post #411 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:53 am

Karo wrote:I'm with you on this, as long as we keep both of the claimed docs in mind for later.

Unvote, Vote: Blackberry

Absolutely. But whichever one of them is scum is caught. He will be dealt with.

Bacde · Post Post #412 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 4:47 pm

Actually mathcam makes sense.

Unvote

I'll have to think about this.

mathcam · Post Post #413 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:48 pm

BabyJesus wrote: 2) The doc ability is pretty damn useful while the cop is still alive, no?

This is certainly the case if the cop has been outed early in the game, at which point it's pretty crucial to keep him/her alive until some information can be reported. On the other hand, the probability of a hidden cop being both the target of a mafia and the target of a doc on any given night is pretty remote. A much greater benefit to the town comes from lynching a mafia, even if it takes two tries and risks eliminating our doc (keeping in mind he'll be eliminated by the mafia anyway). Further, bandwagonning anyone other than one of these two is just going to force more role claims (including possibly the cop) out into the open.

Vote: Tyfo.

I think the blackberry bandwagon is a waste of time.

Cam

Dragon Phoenix · Post Post #414 (ISO) » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:53 pm

I still think the doc issue will resolve itself. Not sure what the berry wagon is based on, either.

At the moment, BabyJesus looks suspicious because of his attempts to derail the Narninian wagon. I'll try to come with a better analysis tomorrow. Today I will not have access anymore.

shelper · Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:35 am

My vote's staying on BJ.
His pathetic attempt to get Mathcam lynched just screams scum to me.

BabyJesus · Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:00 am

shelper wrote:My vote's staying on BJ.
His pathetic attempt to get Mathcam lynched just screams scum to me.

let me know how that works out for you, guy.

mathcam · Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:14 am

I'm fine lynching BJ. While it's clear he could be a pretty positive contributor to this game if he wanted to, he's intentionally making distracting and non-sequitir posts to get us off-topic. That's pretty damn scummy to me.

Cam

Changling bob · Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:21 am

Heh. I was about to move my vote to BJ, but it's already there. Odd that.

*points at sig*

BabyJesus · Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:34 am

Changling bob wrote:Heh. I was about to move my vote to BJ, but it's already there. Odd that.

*points at sig*

Lat game I played with you, you got a CONFIRMED Mason lynched. So I put very litte stock in any "quality" you think you have, so your post is the ultimate in hypocrisy.

BabyJesus · Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:35 am

mathcam wrote:I'm fine lynching BJ. While it's clear he could be a pretty positive contributor to this game if he wanted to, he's intentionally making distracting and non-sequitir posts to get us off-topic. That's pretty damn scummy to me.

Cam

I'm not getting lynched, guy. But feel free to try.

Changling bob · Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:40 am

BabyJesus wrote:Lat game I played with you, you got a CONFIRMED Mason lynched. So I put very litte stock in any "quality" you think you have, so your post is the ultimate in hypocrisy.

Yes, because you only ever play like scum, and you also happened to be a miller. Get over it.

BabyJesus · Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:44 am

Changling bob wrote:
BabyJesus wrote:Lat game I played with you, you got a CONFIRMED Mason lynched. So I put very litte stock in any "quality" you think you have, so your post is the ultimate in hypocrisy.
Yes, because you only ever play like scum, and you also happened to be a miller. Get over it.

point remains your "quality" is lacking.

Bacde · Post Post #423 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:28 pm

Interesting argument here. I think that bringing up the last game you two played is irrelevant though. We aren't gaining much info from it.

Mathcam seems to be a good voice of reason, wanting us to lynch one of our two claimed docs, but I just want to let it be known right now that I think Karo is scum.

BabyJesus · Post Post #424 (ISO) » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:42 pm

Bacde wrote:Interesting argument here. I think that bringing up the last game you two played is irrelevant though. We aren't gaining much info from it.

Mathcam seems to be a good voice of reason, wanting us to lynch one of our two claimed docs, but I just want to let it be known right now that I think Karo is scum.

Why is it so necessary to do that now? Wouldn;t it be easier to just lynch whichever one the mafia do not kill tomorrow....

And if they don't kill either tomorrow, all that means is our doc is alive for another day, again a good thing for us.