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[DrippingGoofball]

From what I've seen of the recent play, there are definitely cases for both. I think Tajo is the stronger case though. I'm still reading through the 36(!) pages and am at the peak of a flu bug but I should be a lot more active at the weekend.

this is a scum post.

Is he your buddy?

[populartajo]

From what I've seen of the recent play, there are definitely cases for both. I think Tajo is the stronger case though. I'm still reading through the 36(!) pages and am at the peak of a flu bug but I should be a lot more active at the weekend.

this is a scum post.

Is he your buddy?

its more like a scumbag hitting on an easy target.

also you understand how illogical bussing is with two scum already dead and a game filled with hypovigs, right?

[DrippingGoofball]

also you understand how illogical bussing is with two scum already dead and a game filled with hypovigs, right?

It wouldn't be the first time that the lure of bus'ing has driven a scum team to drink more of its poisoned waters.

[Faraday]

unvote vote bristep

faxe was p scummy, scummier than tajo anyway.

[TheLonging]

From what I've seen of the recent play, there are definitely cases for both. I think Tajo is the stronger case though. I'm still reading through the 36(!) pages and am at the peak of a flu bug but I should be a lot more active at the weekend.

this is a scum post.

bad post

From what I've seen of the recent play, there are definitely cases for both. I think Tajo is the stronger case though. I'm still reading through the 36(!) pages and am at the peak of a flu bug but I should be a lot more active at the weekend.

this is a scum post.

Is he your buddy?

its more like a scumbag hitting on an easy target.

also you understand how illogical bussing is with two scum already dead and a game filled with hypovigs, right?

bad post, takes advantage of wifom without trying to give reasons for the post being a scum post

[Midnight's Sorrow]

What's this talk of 'not 100%' business?

If role blocking has to do with whatever it is that being 'strong willed' doesn't work on, that doesn't mean it's not 100% effective- it just means there are some people who are immune to it. End of.

[chesskid3]

Unvote

VOte: bristep

flameaxe was scummy too right?

[PoisonIvy]

From what I've seen of the recent play, there are definitely cases for both. I think Tajo is the stronger case though. I'm still reading through the 36(!) pages and am at the peak of a flu bug but I should be a lot more active at the weekend.

This post is SCUMMILICIOUS.

Tajo had little next to no contribution. This is the MAIN point against Tajo is his inactivity and from my point of view having him in lylo would be detrimental which is why i was FOR getting him lynched. I didnt particularly see eye to eye with Flameaxe and frankly tajo is/was an easy lynch. There is next to NOTHING on tajo but a lynch mob. But one way of getting tajo town points may be from lynching YOU.

If you flip scum, tajo is likely innocent.

Unvote, Vote bristep123

Also. Limited access atm. Robbed the flatmates laptop. Be back to full speed as soon as possible.

[chesskid3]

in an ironic turn of events
bristep has become the easy wagon

[Midnight's Sorrow]

In an ironic turn of events, suddenly everybody's seeing Flame!Scum now, before when they had no idea of who or what he could be.

Intriguing, and yet unsettling all at the same time for some reason I have yet to figure out.

I much to think on now.

[Leiskyrie]

@MS: What I meant was that neither roleblocker seems to be able to 100% guarantee that their roleblock will be successful because Kat, if her ability was to Seduce, wouldn't know if the target was strong-willed or not while vezok claims to be 50%. Does that clear vezok? Of course not. I'm just pointing out that just because vezok was counter-claimed doesn't automatically make him scum.

After D1, I had both Flame and tajo as more or less neutral, with Flame leaning more scummy and tajo more town. D2 and my opinions on tajo are getting more and more sour. Horrible reasons (I'm sorry I'm not living up to what you think I "should" be doing) and weak defenses. For the record, there really has not been that much going on in the rooms, as since about halfway through D1 it seems they've been quite dead. And also, I'm not the only person with access to more than one room.

tajo's WIFOM screams of scum bussing and attempting to convince everyone that "See? I be town because he's scum because no scum would bus with two scum down."

Unless you know how many scum are left,

how can you be certain of this?

Both a tajo or a bri lynch would be good today and I'll gladly vote for either. But based on his play, I'll

vote: tajo

Willing to switch to bri at anytime though. And no, I am not convinced that if one is scum, it clears the other.

[xvart]

Xvart. I played with him as Snow White in Flash Mafia. But thats beside the point. If your lurking, do not give input, thoughts and ideas then stacked against 2alternative players who have been doing so and establishing and exchanging viewpoints, chances are the hypothetical town lurker would typically be lynched. To me this seems like common sense.

My point was that I couldn't tell if you had past experience with tajo and based on those experiences he could be considered a policy lynch or if it was just observations in this game. However, I don't see why you weren't pushing this yesterday or even earlier today. It seemed that it almost came out of nowhere, but the scum motivation behind that can only be self serving because it came at a time when the game was somewhat stalling, there weren't really any bandwagons going (so it couldn't be a counter bandwagon) and almost right after a few people had said you were scum. Plus, the whole "even if he is town he is a liability" just stinks to me, especially since you had yet to mention this.

Further scum motivation, in light of your jump to Bristep, is that you were saving yourself (after the straw poll opinions of you being scum) to either an easy lurker wagon, and the benefit of him flipping scum would score you town points, and then jumping to bristep... Your scum flip doesn't necessarily imply tajo is scum, but I think his scum flip will be the nail in your coffin.

However, I agree with the recent observations about tajo's posts and especially TLs; so I am willing to switch votes once we get a votecount.

[DrippingGoofball]

in an ironic turn of events
bristep has become the easy wagon

Yeah, tajo is bus'ing. I don't know if I should help him bus, or give him rope.

[TheLonging]

I'm actually ok with either lynch. I am trying to map out what to do later on.

I'll be back later.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd lynch tajo first, he's going to be spunkier going down.

[populartajo]

do you disagree with his reads, as I think they're fairly bang on with my own. although I think xvart's likelyier town than vezok atm.

OK. Let's go through them one by one.

ok, serious now, someone who has access to all rooms shouldnt be lurking. period.

Yeah, but it happens. That's not a read anyway. It's IIoA.

Its not IIoA, its a scumtell. I bet there is a lot of stuff going on on other rooms but what information, what scumhunting do we have from Leyskirie? None.

faraday, chess and vezok are town for subjective tells, how they react to things, how they discuss, etc. tl is a solid read for activeness. gud is just too obvious to be scum.

Er, where is the special insight here, or is it the lamest parroting you're ever seen?

parroting? i am pretty much the only one who has explained why these guys are town and shouldnt be lynched. where is the parroting here?

dgb isnt scum with tsq but can still be another source of evil.

Say whaaaaaaaaaah?

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

ivy and xvart are tough to read, anyone has tells on these guys?

Not even a read, so it can't be "bang on."[/quote]
there is a reason why they are on the unreadable zone, ffs.

flameaxe is lurking scumbag that cant win this anyomre. same as leiskirye and ms. But specially LEISKIRYE.

Unqualified throw away comments.

i dont even undersand what you mean here. tell me why you disagree with any of my reads.

[populartajo]

From what I've seen of the recent play, there are definitely cases for both. I think Tajo is the stronger case though. I'm still reading through the 36(!) pages and am at the peak of a flu bug but I should be a lot more active at the weekend.

this is a scum post.

bad post

Do you really need me to explain why this is a bad post?

From what I've seen of the recent play, there are definitely cases for both. I think Tajo is the stronger case though. I'm still reading through the 36(!) pages and am at the peak of a flu bug but I should be a lot more active at the weekend.

this is a scum post.

Is he your buddy?

its more like a scumbag hitting on an easy target.
also you understand how illogical bussing is with two scum already dead and a game filled with hypovigs, right?

bad post, takes advantage of wifom without trying to give reasons for the post being a scum post

ill give you reasons. This guy brustep has just barely replaced, he IS still reading through the 36! pages, he is sick and somehow he knows I AM the stronger case? How the hell does this post is a town post that evaluates things before throwing accusations like shit to the wall? What is this RECENT PLAY he is talking about?

Bussing in this scenario is not WIFOM. Scum is already 2 man down. Larger games means 2 or 3 scum left, which means that scum are resilient to bussing if they want a choice of winning this, which is even more unlikely in a scenario of hypovigs.

[populartajo]

tajo's WIFOM screams of scum bussing

does this post fit in your parroting encyclopoedia, dgb?

and attempting to convince everyone that "See? I be town because he's scum because no scum would bus with two scum down."

Unless you know how many scum are left,

how can you be certain of this?

facepalm.jpg
have you ever heard of balance in games? have you ever heard of the word assumption, most likely scenario, etc?

Both a tajo or a bri lynch would be good today and I'll gladly vote for either. But based on his play, I'll

vote: tajo

Willing to switch to bri at anytime though. And no, I am not convinced that if one is scum, it clears the other.

Vote: townie, FOS: Scumpartner scumtell.

We have our scum people.

[populartajo]

in an ironic turn of events
bristep has become the easy wagon

Yeah, tajo is bus'ing. I don't know if I should help him bus, or give him rope.

what bout more reasoning and less BS, DGB?

[TheLonging]

bristep should be the lynch today

tomorrow tajo can be worried about.

unvote
vote: bristep123

[DrippingGoofball]

what bout more reasoning and less BS, DGB?

BS is how I reason. Don't knock it!

I'm considering helping you bus your buddy. I'll sleep over it.

[DeathNote]

Vote Count #9

Midnight's Sorrow- ender241 (L-6)
bristep123- Midnight's Sorrow, faraday, chesskid3, PoisonIvy (L-1)
Leiskyrie- populartajo (L-6)
PoisonIvy- xvart, vezokpiraka (L-5)
Populartajo- DrippingGoofBall, TheLonging (L-5)



~With 12 alive, it is 7 to lynch~

~Prods going out.~

[vezokpiraka]

unvote
vote Bristep

[ender241]

Looking at this thread, quite a hard game for someone like me to judge; would i seem scum if i voted Bristep? It just seems like all i can gather is many of the town. VOTE: BRISTEP.

[ender241]

VOTE: Bristep