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Post Post #875 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:48 am

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themanhimself wrote:Why wouldn't I take it? Diddin could very well have decided to send it to scum or dumb town who would just vig whomever they felt like and hit someone wrong, this way I know it's in safe hands and that it can be used as a second lynch. However, I'm not gonna stall like diddin did. I have to wait for the virus to be activated in order to use so 48 hours after it's activated, I'm day-vigging whoever has the most votes. I'm only going to count one vote from each person and bolding helps. Nor am I going to narrow it down. Whoever has the most votes (excepting me of course) gets vigged.
^by the way this is a scumslip because he assumes I'm town instead of including the possibility I'm scum and that whoever I passed my ability to would be confirmed.

Vote: Quadz
. Still my number 2 suspect. Quadz wanted to lynch powerrox, whom he thought was anti-town and a hinderance, over tmh, who he expressed actual, legitimate scum suspicion of. TMH is confirmed scum to me, and now quadz is to.

Bunny also gets an FoS for FoSing TMH. Bunnylover is currently not voting for anyone, yet is putting down a pretty hard FoS on TMH. Looks like scum afraid to bus their buddy. A vigging of Bunny today would make me very, very happy.

@LMP: TMH passed me his redirector ability. Scum cannot pass abilities between their team. Ergo, when TMH flips scum, I am confirmed town.
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Post Post #876 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:56 am

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Ooh ooh my turn! *harrumph* LEARN TO READ DIDDIN.
TMH wrote:Seems like a good idea to me. I had the power to change the cycle of night choices for N1. For example, I could tell the mod to send diddin's power to someone else regardless of who diddin tried to send it to. I sent the day-vig ability to myself and the person who got my redirect power knows who they are probably figured out why I sent it to them. I'm all for using my power democratically
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Post Post #877 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 11:59 am

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diddin wrote:@LMP: TMH passed me his redirector ability. Scum cannot pass abilities between their team. Ergo, when TMH flips scum, I am confirmed town.
Roger. I was thinking the vig ability. This is correct.
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Post Post #878 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:00 pm

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Oh, eff. *facepalm*

QUADZ LEARN TO READ.

I took care of it, guys. My bad, diddin.
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Post Post #879 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:06 pm

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^^
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Post Post #880 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:10 pm

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I passed the treestump to curiouskarmadog. I figured he was fairly likely scum, and if he eventually did flip scum then it could clear me, but that he wasn't likely to be today's lynch. Come to think of it, he might be a good vig target.

tmh has the dayvig... -.-
well he's scum.
tmh, do you realize how incredibly anti-town any ability that has the ability to redirect a cycling is? Mafia can't cycle to mafia. So if mafia have an ability, they have to (assuming one faction) cycle to town. If town has it, they'll cycle it to someone who they think is town. If mafia have that ability, they can steal abilities from players that have them (basically what you did). In fact,
If you are in reality town, you should have given your ability to the most antitown player you could and then shot them.
Taking the dayvig for no reason when you were the second-largest bandwagon yesterday is
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bunnylover wrote:MoI passed his ability to me. It is clear what ability he had.
MoI died, he shouldn't have been able to pass anything on... right?
Wrathchild wrote:I got no abilities.
We aren't claiming if we got abilities or not, read MoI's post. What you did here is essentially claiming VT in a normal game. Bad.
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Probably.
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themanhimself wrote:Wow parama. What are the odds the mod lied to us and parama is actually a jester?
TMH just claimed scum btw.
IMO, he claimed scum the second he said he passed the dayvig to himself.

At this point, I am contemplating simply lynching TMH with the dayvig. I have a bad feeling that at this point it's going to cause nothing but failure. Probably not gonna do it, but I'm considering it.

For the moment, VOTE: DBE
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Post Post #881 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:12 pm

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I thought diddin was claiming that he'd be confirmed tomorrow because of the vig ability, not the redirection ability. I then realized my error and felt very dumb.

However, it seems at least possible that we have multiple scumteams, so I would shy away from calling diddin confirmed town.
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Post Post #882 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:26 pm

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diddin wrote:TMH is scum. Remind me again how directing a vig power to yourself is protown? Also, he passed me his ability. It's pretty much a "busdriver" ability that I can only imagine mafia would have.

Vote: themanhimself


Also posting townreads and the like is NOT a scumtell like you seem to think. You obviously haven't realized that Parama does stuff like this regardless of alignment.
If you're right, I'm thinking you probably are, you're still doing it wrong. TMH is for tomorrow, after he's been forced to pass the dayvig to another player.
To all the TMH voters, read this, then unvote.

Why are we claiming the abilities we have? Did everyone get drunk this morning and get on MS?

@ I Am Innocent: Frankly their are some abilities town can live off with and some that would be a great benefit to have. A secret voter, don't see how this could be super duper thing town needs.

Vote: Parama

I do not like how Parama avoids question, and everyone just seems to think, "Its ok, its just Parama been Parama."
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The use of his power on Day 1 was stupid. He says he going to pass the potatoe to a person who deserves it, but then passes it not even one page into the game. Not even half the players have posted, and he decides he already found the best place to past it?
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Post Post #883 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:27 pm

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All right, the virus is back in play and I've got it. Who should it go to?
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Post Post #884 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:30 pm

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Pick me. I just want out of this game and a lynch is too ungracious.
Alternatively, TMH so we can kill scum.
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Post Post #885 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:31 pm

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And I am pretty sure ungracious isn't the word I'm looking for but I can't find anything better.

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Post Post #886 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:32 pm

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SC, does the role PM mention any other trigger for the virus to kill someone?
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Post Post #887 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:37 pm

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quadz08 wrote:SC, does the role PM mention any other trigger for the virus to kill someone?
What do you mean? As far as I'm aware, it works the same way as it did when Parama started with it.
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Post Post #888 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:40 pm

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If there aren't multiple scumteams this is over. :(
I had a power last night.
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popsofctown wrote:All powers in this game cycle except the scum nightkill.

His power is antitown, it's more useful for endgame quickhammering than it is for letting townies get more say in the lynch, since it's more about exposing who's scum than having enough voting power to take the player down.

Feel oh so free to hammer this guy.
TMH is the winner, but here is your runner up. Two posts after the claim, the first post being mine where I ask if it Cycles.

TMH has a very pro town role, and I agree that he probably kept it to buy himself some time. He is the lynch tomorrow.

This is my vote today:

vote popsofctown
At the time I posted that, I was pretty certain the ability was strictly antitown based on the logic I posted.

After reading MoI's arguments about why it can be, in fact, quite protown, I don't stand by that vote. Unfortunately, I read MoI's arguments post hammer.


I think it's very likely we have multiple scumteams. Whoever killed chkflip was gunning for scum, not town. If there's yet another vig power going on, it'd take so many scum to balance the game we would've lost by now. Well, not literally, but we would have such grim chances of victory at this point I'd rather assume that chkflip's death signifies a second scumteam or an SK.

Bunnylover seems to have lied, but it's such an illogical lie im not sure it signifies scum.

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Post Post #889 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:42 pm

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popsofctown wrote:@StrangerCoug: Pass the virus to me, I want to look at it. I can give it right back if you like. I can't explain why, sorry.
You asked for it ;)
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Post Post #890 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:42 pm

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Hmm. I have a plan.
1. Reread and tell you all who the scum are.
2. SC passes virus to me.
3. I die and flip town. Town proceeds to sheep my reads until endgame.
4. Once virus is active, THM shoots WrathChild.
5. THM is lynched by the town

Best plan IMO
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Post Post #891 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:42 pm

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HEY SC. I ASKED FIRST.
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Post Post #892 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:44 pm

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You want to quit. Why?
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Post Post #893 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:45 pm

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Not quit.

1. Prove my towniness
2. Assure my credibility
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Post Post #894 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:55 pm

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You're asking for an unproductive use for the hot potato. No.
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Post Post #895 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:02 pm

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For the record, if someone gets the virus, and we somehow never see it again, that person is scum. The virus should be used as a lynch. Scum could pass it betwixt themselves perpetually and have it never go off until the day ends, (well that was my concern, and something I'd like to check when I get it)(I had another more secretive concern but I realized it doesn't matter. Oh well).

We need to pick someone scummy to give the virus to, and tell that person they'll eat it and like it. If they refuse we give the virus to someone else, and then lynch the person who refused to eat the virus, since that person would eat the virus if they realized refusing to do so would only cause us to waste a lynch on them. This process isn't nearly as good as a real daykill, unfortunately, but it's better than killing a lurker just-because.

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@Parama suicide: Let's not let Parama touch the virus. As confident as Parama is that he has the entire game read perfectly, I don't have that confidence in him and I doubt everyone else does.

In fact, it really might be safest if me and StrangerCoug throw it back and forth. I feel pretty good about his alignment since he didn't hide the potato, and regardless of his read on me he'll at least see that I'm willing to toss back the potato whenever he gives it to me. Even though we could hold someone accountable for the vanishing of the potato, I don't want to see a scum holding a cop ability or a scum who thinks he's just going to die anyhow to hide the potato, or pass the potato to a lurker.

Either of us can pass it to a the target once we have a consensus on who should die.
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Post Post #896 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:04 pm

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That's good.
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Post Post #897 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:05 pm

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Bunnylover wrote:I passed my ability on.
MoI passed his ability to me. It is clear what ability he had.
Explain how this is possible if MoI died which should have happened before any ability cycling went on.



TMH passed his power to diddin it seems, therefore they cannot be scum together. Both, though, are scummy, but there is the potential to clear (at least mostly) one by lynching the other. TMH is currently in possession of a very protown power, for all that he gave it to himself, and diddin is in possession of a proscum power. Therefore I'm going to start the day with a diddin vote.

Vote diddin
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Post Post #898 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:08 pm

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I'm going to try that "rereading" thing now.
Expect disastrous results.

This post = pgs 1-10
First thought reading the first page: q21 is in this game? Quick check shows 13 posts total. Needs to be dead by the end of D3 IMO.
Who replaced TL? They're scum. *checks* FFFFFFFFFFUUUUU ignore the previous opinion, the slot is confirmed town so
popsofctown wrote:I'm thinking maybe we ought to remove implosion's ability from the game. If you're town, please argue for or against that without appeals to fear, mkay?
This is like the ultimate euphemism for "we should lynch implosion"
I TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT THIS. Very easy to see why I had Wrath as scum now :D
Let's play the passive game
This just looks so fake.
I'm glad this guy is dead.
Pops is the master of WIFOM it seems... his push is simply ridiculous, but I can't tell if he was assuming muhscum or muhtown. Meh.
I'm glad we lynched this guys. I really am. TMH was the better lynch but this lynch wins us lots of cookies regardless.
Holy crap. There are at least 5 things wrong with this post.
I really don't like quadz's boneheadedness and how he'll obsess EXCLUSIVELY over little, irrelevant things.

scummyscum:
q21
WrathChild
TMH
quadz

Expecting 75% accuracy here. I don't really care, once one scum is flipped, links will make themselves evident and the entire team will go down really easily. WHICH IS WHY WE KILL THIS ENTIRE LIST, OKAY?

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Post Post #899 (ISO) » Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:10 pm

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Oh yeah thanks for reminding me, q21.
EVERYONE CLAIMS WHO THEY PASSED THEIR POWER TO LAST NIGHT.

I had no power and passed to no one. I am assuming the virus gets randomly passed at the start of each day if it had been activated the previous day.
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