Mini 1106 - No Exit Mafia

[vezokpiraka]

DGB come here and make a wagon. Or make us lynch someone.

[DrippingGoofball]

We're lynching RW or Jester. Flip a coin if you must!

[AntB]

@vezokpiraka
What's wrong with forming your own opinion and instead of asking someone else to vote for you?

[Ghostlin]

We're lynching RW or Jester. Flip a coin if you must!

Let me play devil's advocate for a minute: Why should we lynch anyone on your say so and why would you avocate a coin toss, DGB? While the gentlemen in question seem sort of scummy: one through his action (horrible L-1 vote), and one through his inaction (there are no 'undecided' votes in mafia, usually even NL is done through an opinion about a game state and opinions about someone going into the next day).

[vezokpiraka]

I have an opinion. But nobody listens to it. People listen to DGB. If DGB makes a wagon on someone I find scummy I am happy. You see that now?

[Ghostlin]

I have an opinion. But nobody listens to it. People listen to DGB. If DGB makes a wagon on someone I find scummy I am happy. You see that now?

RossWilliam (4) - DrippingGoofball, Dark Horse, vezokpiraka, Ghostlin

At least three other people agree with you enough they're all on the same wagon.

[Dark Horse]

I think he's talking about how I was the 3rd vote one the ross wagon

[Ghostlin]

I think he's talking about how I was the 3rd vote one the ross wagon

Yeah, arguments like that, particularly when he tries to do the same thing as a joke; is probably why no one's listening to him. If he acutally believes what he's saying (the third person more likely to be scum) he shouldn't do it if he wants to be taken seriously for voting for that reason. In Day 1, you really only have one currency to spend: your credibility. If folks don't think you're credible, they're going to disregard most of what you say.

As much as I hate the quad hated townie with a side of cheese claim, DGB admits with was RVS and has given us something to talk about, reprising her suspicions and even did a case. Still doesn't mean I trust her, I don't take being lied to well, but it's a little less suspicious than, say not voting at all Day 1 when you obviously have have a opinion (or maybe you don't) or forcing someone in L-1 on a juncture in this day. Vezo is almost seeming more and more like a VI, which isn't good for town either, from some of the things he's said, or something we're not 100% sure is happening is going on. Fact is, I'm willing to leave him be for now and focus more on Jester, who seems to just sit there doing nothing and RW, who's been quiet and not really answered the accusations against him.

[The Jester]

I was deciding since my last post if I was voting for DGB or Guderian. Thinking if only both can be partners, or if I still think one of them is mafia even if the other isn't. I left at thinking that I find it more likely they're both partners than one is mafia and the other isn't. As I just said I think DGB and Guderian are partners, but I'm not sure who the third mafia is, if there is one. Concluding that DGB telling people to ISO others to see if they see what she sees that makes them scummy added to the other points I already made I'm confidant voting her out of the two highest suspects I have.

...Words cannot express what a waste of electrons and pixels that was.

I know, but the urge to type it overwhelmed me.

I'm glad there's a reason, but he should be making a case regardless. More is betta.

Vote: DGB

[DrippingGoofball]

Vote: DGB

You don't really believe in this vote, cookie.

[The Jester]

You still haven't answered the question of why vizokpiraka's reaction is 100% town. Could you please answer it?

[DrippingGoofball]

You still haven't answered the question of why vizokpiraka's reaction is 100% town. Could you please answer it?

It was reckless and defiant.

[RossWilliam]

I still want to lynch DGB

UNVOTE: vezokpiraka

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[veridis]

How to make DGB think you're town.
1. Be reckless, throw around votes like confetti
2. Be defiant, respond to accusations with "lol, no" or "you're all scum"
3. But don't ever defy DGB

I see the error of my ways.

I prefer a DGB lynch to a RW one, but prefer vezo to both. My vote is staying where it is for now.

[AntB]

lolwut?

Why?

[AntB]

That was at RossWilliam btw.

[Ghostlin]

I still want to lynch DGB

UNVOTE: vezokpiraka

VOTE: DrippingGoofball

"Quick, everyone! Not that wagon,

this

wagon!" This

screams

scum opportunism. I'm not even saying DGB is scum or not, I'm saying in Ross's mind, it doesn't really matter. This vote was placed with as much thought as I put into taking a drink of water.

Guys, Ross William, regardless or not if he actually is scum, has good odds of actually being scum and is an excellent lynch today.

[DrippingGoofball]

Let me play devil's advocate for a minute: Why should we lynch anyone on your say so...

I made some suggestions. Iso both players, and your feedback is welcome. If you feel some other players are more deserve of rope, I'm all ears.

I don't expect anyone to lynch another player on omy "say so" -

EVER

.

...and why would you avocate a coin toss, DGB?

Coin toss sometimes helps you make a REAL decision in RL. The toss isn't legally binding... that's the trick.

[DrippingGoofball]

1. Be reckless...

Only certain kinds of recklessness are town tells.

throw around votes like confetti

No. That's null.

2. Be defiant, respond to accusations with "lol, no" or "you're all scum"

That's a town tell, except for anyone else that tries to do it in the future in this game

3. But don't ever defy DGB

Hey, I like the spunky ones - scum rarely tries to get in my crosshairs in the day, because they can NK me.

I see the error of my ways.

Don't be silly now, and let's lynch some scum instead of getting one's panties in a knot.

[veridis]

*sigh*
You might give me the shits but I can't fault your consistency DGB, and that #2 did make me smile.
Although I still disagree with your vezo read I won't be jumping on your wagon today.

[Ghostlin]

lolwut?

Why?

If you're going 'lolwut' at someone's vote, you probably should be voting for them. I read Ross in ISO last night: he's been trying to bus DGB most of the game with his vote trying to get a lynch off her, except for that short time he decided vezo was a much more likely lynch and put them at L-1. He's done this all with little reason; no matter how much more scummy someone else has been in front of him (the Jester's absence of a vote; vezo's continued anti-town play).

Yes, I'm pushing this hard. I really don't get how anyone who's read Ross's ISO, see how he's tunnelling until a better opportunity came along could not term his play anti-town at the very least, and out right scumplay at the worst. I don't even agree with DGB about vezo, I think her play has been reckless, but I do agree with her about RW. He's either playing up the VI vibes or he's scum.

[AntB]

I am highly tempted to move my vote to RW currently, first I wish to know why he's vote hopping.

I fully understand the case against him currently and will more than likely shift my vote later.

[RossWilliam]

@AntB. I decided to go with who I want lynched the most, not who I thought was also scummy (less scummy) but more likely to be lynched.

Also,

Mod: I will be V/LA until Monday night or Tuesday morning. Sorry

[AntB]

@RossWilliam
Again, Why? You've provided no reasoning at all! (even a weak reason is still a reason).

UNVOTE: vezokpiraka
VOTE: RossWilliam -

[L-2]

The case on you is adequate enough and now the vote on DGB and failure to provide even a basic reason beyond "I think she's scummy".

[Darox]

I haven't been saying anything.

I should probably stop that.

Remind me to stop that and actually read up on people in the near future.