Mini 1106 - No Exit Mafia

[DrippingGoofball]

So yes, lack of cases is quite a possiblilty she's scum,

Hey I just wrote up a long case, with a convenient TL;DR summary!

[The Jester]

@Ghostiln: I'm waiting to hear from others about the rest of my post.

@DGB: Explain vezokpiraka's reaction being 100% town, how so?

Ask first, no answer? Then pressure. What's wrong with that?

Nothing, but I don't see anything wrong with asking and voting either seeing as how that claim was suspicious.

@AntB: I thought town wanted information, but scum wanted specific information like anyone with a power role.

Explain why it's bad to want more information but nothing specific?

[DrippingGoofball]

The scum is The Jester, RossWilliam, and one of palmertrou and viridis (these last two are confounded by nOob vibes).

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB: Explain vezokpiraka's reaction being 100% town, how so?

If I tell you, will you promise not to try to fake it to fool me later?

[AntB]

Explain why it's bad to want more information but nothing specific?

There was already sufficient information given IMO without going into specifics.

[DrippingGoofball]

Confused scum are revealed!

palmertrou, AntB, veridis, Xalxe, RossWilliam

AntB is town. Secret town tell.

[veridis]

Pointing out that your earlier vote for Jester is specifically a RV smells like it was, indeed, distancing, and NOT A TRUE RV, like you are insisting it is, for no reason, out of the blue.

for no reason, out of the blue, in response Gud's "since you seemed to dodge what little 'content' you could call it to slap a RVS down" that was in the post immediately before mine. I was accused of dodging content, I explained my first post.

Afraid to vote for a townie? Calling it a misvote (Freud would love that one)? Need to apologize for fear of repercussions?

I was afraid to vote for Da

v

ox, the non-existant typo man. There was no hesitance in my Da

r

ox vote. Do please keep up.

My stands are my votes, my proper cases are hinted at by the evidence and reasoning that has gone along with my votes and can be produced upon request.

You haven't yet given any reason why you should be trusted.

Nor have you, or anyone else for that matter, why do you demand this of me?

Because you make broad claims with little evidence, you ask us to simply defer to your better judgement.

Alright! I did a case.

If only half the points weren't blatant misreads.

[palmertrou]

Things are moving in a way I don't quite understand yet. I've been away for a while without knowing I would be. I kinda get why DGB thinks Vezok be town though. RW and Veridis are pinging my scumdar that weren't really pinging it before. Goofball seems likely town (or more likely town to be more accurate) even though I have issues with how she's playing. Xalxe and Dark horse (maybe ghostlin) seem most town although I haven't written anyone off yet and I don't think anyone should before a flip. Seems non-sensical to me.

Will re-read and possibly look at a couple of peeps in more detail tomorrow but in the meantime:

Unvote

[DrippingGoofball]

The scum is The Jester, RossWilliam, and viridis - with a dash of Xalxe, by POE.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm a bit less inclined to lynch viridis (possible NOob), or Xalxe (more content needed), but I'd be happy to lynch RW or The Jester at this point.

[The Jester]

@DGB: Explain vezokpiraka's reaction being 100% town, how so?

If I tell you, will you promise not to try to fake it to fool me later?

Takes a lot of effort to get you to answer a question properly.

It is funny you say that though.

[Guderian]

Unvote

Vote: The Jester

Less inclined to vote RossWilliam, he seems to draw votes like a moth to a flame. (I am in 3 games with him. trust me.)

palmer, thoughts on The Jester who you didnt mention at all in that little catch up snippit.

[The Jester]

Is it so hard to read the bold parts Guderian? I even made it easy for you, and yet you still failed.

Explain the logic of the scum being on the vezokpiraka wagon.

[Guderian]

Scum think vezok is easy to lynch because he does randomly scummy/strange things that they then try and spin as 'anti-tiown'.

[Darox]

Suddenly I don't like Guderian.
Feels like he's trying to get on DGB's good side rather than stick to his guns.

[Dark Horse]

Jester, if scum vote someone for "Information" and never specifies what the information is, it's usually a cop-out reason for voting that person.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jester, if scum vote someone for "Information" and never specifies what the information is, it's usually a cop-out reason for voting that person.

I like this.

[Ghostlin]

Less inclined to vote RossWilliam, he seems to draw votes like a moth to a flame. (I am in 3 games with him. trust me.)

Doesn't mean he's not as scummy as the day is long. Fact is, there is one point I agree with AntB on and only one point: if he's acting this way his other games, it really doesn't mean much, and he could be posting that way as town in three other games and scum in this one expecting you not to bite. In that scene, when preplanned, the meta is fairly useless.

Fact is, if he is a VI and still useless, I dont necessarly see this as a horrible thing. If he is scum due to his incredibly bad play and wanted to make the argument of 'hey, I always play this way', we have ourselves a scum.

This is an argument of "He always acts this way, he must be town," and is a way to excuse any number of sins.

[Seacore]

Vote count 1.6

RossWilliam (4) -

DrippingGoofball, Dark Horse, vezokpiraka, Ghostlin

vezokpiraka (4) -

AntB, veridis, Xalxe, RossWilliam

Dark Horse (1) -

Darox

The Jester (1) -

Guderian

Not Voting (2) - The Jester, palmertrou

With 12 alive, 7 votes were needed for the lynch

Deadline midnight 18 January, countdown viewable here

[Guderian]

I didn't realize both the jester and palmertou had no votes on them. Is no one willing to switch over to these bunnies?

Ghostlin, i'm not saying he always acts this way, just that he always seems to get voted no matter how he acts.

[The Jester]

If you look, your vote is on me. That counts as one, which is, more than zero.

That sounds like a great case you have on me. A plead. "Is anyone willing.." Reminds me when RossWilliam was asking how fast people were willing to vote/lynch someone.

"Scum think vezokpiraka is easy to lynch because he's acting really scummy."

So being really scummy is not a reason to lynch someone?

Funny you say scum are on the vezokpiraka wagon but you vote me instead with no case, someone,

not

on the vezokpiraka wagon.

[The Jester]

EBWOP

"Is no one willing.."***

[Ghostlin]

Jester, this is wild and crazy shot in the dark, but it may have more to do with the fact that your iso isn't definitive who you want to see lynched; you spend more time lawyering other people's observations rather than making your own, we've five days from Day 1 deadline and you've not made a vote YET since RVS, and while I do in fact find the vezok wagon to be not a horrible thing since he's made some scum play, nor the Ross William wagon; and yet you refuse to vote anyone, even DBG, who you constantly ridicule for her shooting from the hip. Fact is, and I can't believe I'm saying this, her shooting from the hip is at least forcing us to look at her and the others in town she's accusing to see if we can form our own opinions on them or not. Oh, and we get the wisdom of this pouring out of your wisdom:

If you look, your vote is on me. That counts as one, which is, more than zero.

...Words cannot express what a waste of electrons and pixels that was.

[Ghostlin]

EBWOP: Before anyone asks why I'm not voting The Jester; the way this town has gone utterly crazy, I would have to gain the power of quintuple voting to accurately hit everyone I think is scum.

[veridis]

I kinda get why DGB thinks Vezok be town though.

Care to share? Because i really don't see it yet. 5 votes in 16 posts still looks off to me and his playstyle isn't redeeming at all.

I'm a bit less inclined to lynch viridis (possible NOob)

And here I was thinking you might be a bit less inclined because you completely stuffed up your accusations re:my RV and my Davox/Darox votes.

@Gud - your pot/kettle picture has been called BS by 2 players, do you have any response?

2nding Ghostlin, Jester you need to vote soon, you too palmer.