Mafia 44: Generic - Abandoned!

[Fritzler]

FOS: everybody not voting Stykkerverde

[LyingBrian]

MOD

can we get another generic vote count, please!

[armlx]

FOS Stryyker

Until a vote count and claim come.

[chamber]

FOS Stryyker

Until a vote count and claim come.

I'm also waiting for his claim, I still like lyingBrian less.

[TSAGod]

*also waits for a Stryyker claim*

[StrykkerVerde]

I'm the Bartender.

Everynight I can choose two players which will be invited to my bar. During that night we become a three player mason group.

I can only invite any given player one time.

Last night, I did not submit a choice because I did not know that the game was starting with night.

If you will allow me to live until tonight then I will prove my role by inviting two people of the towns choice.

Then I will probably be roleblocked and then lynched tomorrow, you know this situation doesn't look good for me.

Oh well, whatever you guys wanna do.

[LyingBrian]

@StrykkerVerde

why would you be roleblocked? do you have reason to believe the mafia has a roleblocker? i think a pro-town roleblocker would give you the chance to prove your role...

BTW, even if you had used your ability on N0, it would still be suspect... letting the town choose the two people is a BIG point in your favor (granted it works like it's supposed to...)

on another note... this role is only helpful to the town if you choose 2 people who are both pro-town... also how do we know that you are not mafia trying to pick the town's brain?


@chamber

scum generally dislike the people voting for them...

[Dranko20]

A Genericly Generic Vote Count:

3 Twomz - (Iammars, TSAGod, Falcone)
1 Don Gaetano (StrykkerVerde)

7 StrykkerVerde

- (BrianMcQueso, Don Gaetano, ????, logicticus, Fritzler, naubol, Shamrock)
2 Fritzler - (Snap, Sineish)
2 LyingBrian - (armlx, chamber)
1 chamber - (LyingBrian)

4 Not Voting - (jedknight, darquiel, VitaminR, Twomz)

Remember: 19 Alive, 10 to lynch!

Funny side note,

unvote, vote: LyingBrian

CAn't argue w/ a BJ bandwagon

BabyJ isnt voting LB... Just you and me Fritz....

BabyJesus isn't in this

game

.

[BrianMcQueso]

unvote: StrykkerVerde

I'll give him a chance to prove himself, it's simple enough. We've still got a noose with his name on it waiting for him tomorrow if he's lying.

Oh, and I don't think we should have Strykker tell us who's coming to his little party tonight. If he does, the Mafia is more likely to take a shot at them, methinks. Let's hope for Strykker's sake that the people he invites aren't dead tomorrow by "coincidence".

And just because you're provable doesn't mean you should act like an idiot. Just because Dranko does it doesn't make it cool.

On a seperate note, the ??? vote didn't appear until a later vote count. It would appear somebody has a secret vote, and not that myself or Don has a double vote tagged onto one of us. Somebody out there wanted Strykker lynched, and it makes me believe in his innocence a bit more.

[Dranko20]

[quote="BigFatBrian"]On a seperate note, the ??? vote didn't appear until a later vote count. It would appear somebody has a secret vote, and not that myself or Don has a double vote tagged onto one of us. Somebody out there wanted Strykker lynched, and it makes me believe in his innocence a bit more.[/q]

Ahem. ???

?

.

[Falcone]

Brian, are you saying you believe the secret vote comes from a scum player? I had a couple of ideas in mind about where the vote could come from, but I hadn't thought of that.

Question to the Mod

: Has darquiel been prodded, or is there maybe a game related reason she isn't posting?

[BrianMcQueso]

I was talking about a completely different question-mark based secret vote, one so secret that it wouldn't even appear on the vote counts... one

so

secret that even the moderator wouldn't know about it.

[LyingBrian]

@BrianMcQueso

the problem w/ that is if StrykkerVerde is really Mafia pulling a fake role-claim, it would be possible for him to get 2 scumbuddies to "say" he recruited them... maybe the best solution would be for the town to suggest 3 names, StrykkerVerde can choose 2 of those 3 to recruit... the Mafia only gets 1 kill, so that would decrease their odds of hitting a recruit while increasing the odds of getting at least one true townie to confirm StrykkerVerde

[BrianMcQueso]

Falcone: If a pro-town player had the option of a secret vote, I would like to think they would come forward. Of course, this would make them a bigger target to the mafia... but a secret vote is something sleazy... I'd expect it to lie in the hands of an anti-town player, something like a Mafia Godfather, or maybe a Serial Killer. Honestly, I'm not sure, it could be pro-town, but abilities like that just seem scummy to me.

[BrianMcQueso]

LyingBrian: True, but if Strykker is scum and gets two scum buddies to join in with him, then if Strykker dies, we get a three-for-one coupon (ka-ching 2+2=5). It's a big risk, and I doubt the Mafia would want to take it.

Strykker's ability doesn't necessarily guarantee his innocence (it could be a bonus ability of a mafia member... though unlikely), but I think it's reasonable to give him a chance.

[Sineish]

If a pro-town player had the option of a secret vote, I would like to think they would come forward.

I would think that would be true if that was their only power, but they could also have additional powers that they wish to keep hidden from the scum. Having said that, I think that a secret vote is more likely to be in the hands of an anti-town player.

Oh, and

Unvote: Fritzler

S.

[jediknight]

Sorry everybody. Not used to being in a game anymore...maybe I should quit unretiring!

I am inclined to believe Strykker right now. While he cannot one hundred percent prove his role, he can at least start to a little bit.

I'm seriously wondering about darquel personally. I've never played any games with her but it doesn't seem her style to not post. Also, the vote counts are pretty weird in and of themselves. Just a couple of quick observations.

[StrykkerVerde]

I'll agree with you guys that the town chooseing the targets does leave somebody open to being killed. Maybe it would be a good idea to pick 3 or 4 people for me to choose from, just to make sure my role goes through.

Also my roleblocked comment was assumeing that there is a mafia roleblocker, which is not completely out of the question for a game this large.

Brian, you're right. I should not be acting stupid just because Dranko does. I just didn't really have anything to say, but i didn't want to lurk. ohhh well.

[Shamrock]

Unvote Strykker

[LyingBrian]

@StrykkerVerde

can you please start referring to BrianMcQueso as BrianM and myself as LBrian, or some other combination that lets us know specifically who your talking to?...

[logicticus]

unvote

Its a reasonable claim right now and I do think some names should be suggested to him about who is to meet with him tonight.

The secret vote has to be scum, but combine that with the blocked votes earlier and it seems there are quite a few voting powers in a generic game.

[Dranko20]

darquiel has responded to my prod. i told her that lurking is okay by me, as long as the town knows she is purposefully lurking.

I will agree to this; if 10 people vote for darquiel to be replaced before she posts, it shall be done.

[Don Gaetano]

unvote

I buy Strykker's claim, and it's easy to prove. I think we can let Strykker choose whoever he wants tonight. Since there will be more nights in this game, any lies or deception from Strykker's side will become obvious eventually.

The only danger is really if he's scum with the ability he claimed, but I find that unlikely.

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I vote for

replace: Darquiel

[LyingBrian]

unvote

vote: replace darquiel

there's nothing i hate more than players that lurk on purpose

@logicticus

why do you say the secret vote HAS TO BE scum?!? as i am still fairly new (compared to everyone else), i'm not sure i follow this train of reasoning...

also, is there a Wiki page that describes this role...?

[StrykkerVerde]

Vote: replace Darquiel

Just to be a jerk.


Brian, I'm sorry but I'm far too lazy to do that.

Also I don't believe that the ???? vote was scum, because if it were then they wouldnt have voted so early, they would have waited until I was one away from a lynch and then pounced secretly.