DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!

[SpyreX]

Ok. Look at all the surprise.

Faraday needs more the Kat shot was easy money for either before I'm confident.

[Fate]

I LIVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TO NUKE ANOTHER DAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

HAHAHWHAHAHAAAAAA

OH MAN.

WHAT A DUMB ATTEMPT TO FRAME.

OBVTOWN IS STILL OBVTOWN

[Jack]

ok. bobsnox is the one who we KNOW is in the taichi/rogue mafia group. So if he flips russian, then inhim is rogue (targetting fate, etc). If he flips chinese, then rogue is dana. I think he will flip chinese.

Conveniently, toog claimed chinese...

I'll hammer, since it's going to happen anyway, but before I do, I should say that I did not take Toog's scumclaim to be serious. But others seem to believe it is, and there's no way I'm convincing a group this dumb that it's not before midnight tomorrow. Well, here goes nothing. unvote vote: Toogeloo

I would be surprised if dana could pick up on a fake scum claim. Although it was pretty obvious.

lol at follow up:

vote: Fate I told you not to lynch Toog, you kept after him anyway, and he eventually just claimed scum because he knew lynching him would be best for us even though he was town. It's time for you to pay up for your "scumhunting" methods.

[Jack]

Then we have to get the 2 russians left. I'm tempted to just ignore wifom there and go after AV, and then dizzy. I think that'll be game.

CHINESE--BOBS, KATS, DANA

RUSSIANS--INHIM, AV, DIZZY

[Faraday]

Ok. Look at all the surprise.

Faraday needs more the Kat shot was easy money for either before I'm confident.

huh? easy how, no one else apart from myself seemed to find her scummy at all (idr anyone voting her at any stage).
COURSE that doesn't make me town, as multi scum but etc.

[chesskid3]

OK UH
NUKE BOB
VOTE DIZZY
JOJDSOFJSODFJ
MINA IS SCUM WITH DIZZY IF BOB FLIPS TOWN
oladsfjopsdfjasdfjadsf

[chesskid3]

also I am thuroughly shocked at the inhim scumflip
I thought he was towntowntown.

oh and bob/mina/dizzy could all be different scumteams and stuff

[Fate]

Oh Mina replaced Baby Spice

>_+>
<_<

[chesskid3]

that explains a lot

[chesskid3]

nuking bob is a cop out (different scumteams)
I asked her to nuke Dizzy

[chesskid3]

and the vote on dizzy is useless because THERES NO MOMENTUM ON THE LYNCH RAH

[Fate]

Bobsnox is more incredibly scum than Dizzy.

Sorry bro.

I know you got burned by gandalf in a recent game but THAT DOESNT MEAN SHITTTTTTTT

[chesskid3]

forget gandalf
dizzy is also obvscum
goddamnit
SPYREX YOUR NUKE IS MINE TOMORROWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[Fate]

herp let's quicklynch bobsnox aderp

hey Jack how about you go look at when I voted IS and analyze his suspects prior to that. I'll spare you the WIFOM until you do that.

your theory has holes

^I mean if you nuke dizzy over THIS then I just dont know whats wrong withyou Mina gets 1000 winpoints

[chesskid3]

bob is kinda like that all the time though
sure I think he's scum
but I'm much happier with Mina/Dizzy scum

[chesskid3]

I mean he's like 80% scum sooooo
but dizzy is like 99% scum sooooooooooooooo

[Mina]

Okay.

Right now, I have a huge post typed up analyzing Percy's codes, because I found something VERY damning. I almost--ALMOST--hit submit. But what's holding me back is that I just realized that it would tell the scum what roles aren't safe to claim.

I'm actually debating the merits of a massclaim, either today or on the beginning of D4, but I'm going to work it out with pen and paper first. Maybe I can catch the scum by PoE (i.e., by players who haven't fired a silo) without forcing anyone to come forward.

Unfortunately, though, I made one crucial assumption in my analysis: that the team with Rogue contains inHimshallibe, and are therefore the Russians. Therefore, the Crazy Code Team are the Chinese by PoE.

Then Jack brought up that bobsnox is on the Rogue team because of the evidence pointing to C being Internet Stranger. The coded posts seemed to refer to bobsnox because of the VC analysis with "I'm voting C. Should I be voting I or E?"

But didn't Jack's analysis show that bobsnox is connected to Katsuki, because the code team was the bussing one? (Admittedly, I thought this was the weakest of the connection tells.)

So now I'm thinking that I should do multiple versions of my analysis: Rogue team is Russian and contains bobsnox, Rogue team is Russian and

doesn't

contain bobsnox, Rogue team is Chinese and contains bobsnox, and Rogue team is Chinese and doesn't contain bobsnox.

bobsnox, if you want even the tiniest sliver of hope that I recall the nuke, claim your role. Now.

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OK UH
NUKE BOB
VOTE DIZZY
JOJDSOFJSODFJ
MINA IS SCUM WITH DIZZY IF BOB FLIPS TOWN
oladsfjopsdfjasdfjadsf

You are utterly ridiculous.

Are votes in this game worth as much as an FOS in a normal game or something?

You realize that if Dizzy is scum, wagoning her will give us much more information in the long run than vigging her will? bobsnox was the best vig shot possible, because he's scummy and useless, he was the inevitable lynch, and the earlier he flips, the easier it will be to crack the codes. Now that he's gone, scum have to scramble to find an alternate lynch to push. WTF is your obsession with getting Dizzy nuked--not just lynched,

nuked

?

[Jack]

Mina, all the roles have been revealed in the thread, except bobs who hasn't claimed his espeonage role yet.

[bobsnox]

i has radar lol

[Jack]

Oh yes. I was confused about something earlier and forgot to update my list of who had what. You claimed radar in the scumqt too which is nice.

[Percy]

Jack is my favourite. Much <3

I really wanted to type out a huge reply but I ran out of time and now I'm going to see TRON and then probably me incommunicado for tonight. But tomorrow, I will make up for it with lots of posting, I promise.

[Mina]

Jack, maybe I just suck at power role spotting <_<. I've narrowed the players who could fit as Tai Chi to a small group, though.

Also, just realized that my logic in my last post wasn't clear. I was assuming we could treat the Rogue posts as one scumteam's and the code posts as another's. But Jack gave evidence for both of them being the same (C fitting as IS in both a Rogue post and a code post).

The Rogue leaks really only make sense for a Battleship, though. Eh.

Once we figure out once and for all whether the Rogue and Crazy Code teams are the same, that will help shed light on the votecount.

EBWOPreview:

chesskid, NOW will you stop whining to me about the bobsnox vig?

So, um, just on the 1% chance you aren't actually scum, bobs, do you have any incriminating results?

Okay. That ups the chances that bobsnox is on the Rogue team, because those were one of the three roles that fit. (Best case scenario is that he flips Chinese AND it turns out that the Rogue team is Chinese, because I could then narrow the last player without a doubt to a group of four. When I finish all the scenarios, I'll post it tonight.)

[chesskid3]

the objection was not to you shooting scum
the objection was to you shooting scum NOT on your team.
I wanted you to nuke Dizzy. Had you done that, it would have made you look less like confscum in my eyes

[Fate]

i has radar lol

FITS WITH SCUM KNOWING INHIM'S ROLE AND NUKING AS SUCH AND SOCIO+BOBS+KATSUKI TEAM?

YESYEYSYEYSEYES

YAUSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Jack]

8 seems to be a direct reply to 7.

dana is the aicraft carrier and targetted fate, rogue targetted "e" which is fate. fate needed to be blocked because he was going to nuke dana. so they wanted to lynch fate instead to save the roleblock. There's no similar kind of "need" for doctor on fate who isn't even on the team! And if he was, lynching him wouldn't help.

a dana lynch would lead to lots of connections. an inhim wouldn't.

There's only 2 unclaimed PR's and there were heavy hints given.