tired of waiting on Vi!
First and foremost, Parama is probably town. Vi felt it was funny that he had claimed a dayuse ability in a game with night-use abilities listen in the topic post. However, I felt like he was town regardless of his weird claim. Vi even agreed with "at the time parama is probably town for reasons you're suspecting... and now probably the same". Even if the bomb went off on a townie, said townie lacked reading skills, so c'est la vie. Would we want that kid around in lylo? I don't think so. The only thing that doesn't sit right with me was when Parama was fishing with the "no 'go town!' post?". You can't really blame Parama for us losing our watcher ability, and in this setup with so many roles that will be visiting, I'd say the watcher role in general would be weaker than normal anyways. If it was me with the watcher role, though, and I got passed a bomb, you better believe I would have passed the bomb to someone else ASAP... so therefore I do not blame Parama, and I view that situation as being null in general. I wish he would post less one-linery things, but that really is just how he plays... sigh
As of Implosions post #31, I would personally love to see if this guy can be lynched. Who is to say he isn't scum who got the shaft and just got a voteless ability? I suppose he would end up getting caught up in that... in his #40 where he's like "someone would have caught that my vote didn't count" my counter-argument is why did you vote at all? I would rather you have not said anything about this! also his #47... is that how treestumps normally work? i always thought they can't gain votes. i really, really, really want to test this. i feel like he is lying scum. Also, it's funny to me (or hinky as babyspice would say!) that implosion and pops always post back-to-back. Sure, in his #31, claiming it ahead of time seems pro-town, but who is to say that he couldn't do that as scum? I'm not going to vote him, but I have my eye on him. Also in his #40 I suppose you could say he attempted to confirm his treestumpness, but to me I always felt like you had to actually stump before it worked, as opposed to it being natural. His role feels like a reverse-floridian to me where he is voteless more than a stump, and I really feel he might be scum. To reiterate, though, I am not entirely sure on him and do not want to lead a mislynch.
Diddin needs to be monitored on his claim. We should publicly vote on who he should use his ability on. That is the only way we can make sure that he doesn't pull a parama and cause us to lose another PR.
I'm liking MoI's guidelines, but I feel that he is a good enough player to have this pre-made regardless of alignment, and adapt it to how the gameflow is going. Vi agreed with me on this. We feel like MoI is making it look like he is gaming the setup to find a loophole in the game. Pops and Narsis are also guilty of this.
RedCoyote's #84 is both scummy and lacking direction. I've gotten him lynched as a townie, and he posted completely differently than he did there. Whereas he responded to pops and implosion (two people I have my eye on) a lot, his post has NO CONCLUSION. I will await judgment on this, though, because I don't want to tunnel on all the active people... scum can lurk!
On page 3, I read MoI vs Pops to not be town on town, just mainly gut on game-speculation-argumentation. In MoI's #109, I really like his questioning of Narsis, CKD, and RedCoyote... a few people I casually have my eye on as well... so that means pops is the scum in that.
popsofctown wrote:Vote: implosion
. No harm in confirming this.
By confirming this, you would essentially be forcing a no lynch... if he isn't lying, and is merely voteless. Furthermore, you KNOW the town isn't going to get behind this. This is just distancing/trying to gain a no lynch in my opinion and I'm reading it as severely anti-town.
popsofctown wrote:ok.
Real posts, when i use the term at least, are posts that move you towards your wincon substantially, and make you a readable player. Scum want to be unreadable, and are more likely to post one liners like you are doing.
What are the risks of trying to kill implosion's ability? Is the worst case scenario really a mafia doc saving the guy? A vigilante would miss getting a kill that night, but he wasn't guaranteed to shoot correctly anyhow. While this treestump ability makes us autolose LyLo, so it is the equivalent of an entire player, guaranteed.
I'm thinking maybe we ought to remove implosion's ability from the game. If you're town, please argue for or against that without appeals to fear, mkay?
The bolded here really reads wrong to me
popsofctown wrote:Magna, the stump ability, specifically, is not very bad early. It makes the controller voteless. It's harmless UNTIL endgame.
and im not reading a mini
Even I skimmed it. Is it that hard to read?
I'll give proof I did: Jack commonly was like "I know 3 town and 3 scum... more on that later" then
"I know 6 town and 3 scum... more on that later"... I'll admit I didn't finish a read, but I wanted to get a gist of how everything would go. It's only ~30 pages IIRC. Your refusal to do that is anti-town.
Also your #15 in iso is IIoA, with a weak vote on a null-situation that lacks reasoning
Your #17 in iso feels like it is pushing parama's post back to bury it in the thread
popsofctown wrote:Parama wrote:pops, what would I have to gain by saying "The mod clarified it without me asking him to" instead of "The mod clarified it with me asking him to"? I don't even see why this is a big deal.
Because your many times as likely to ask if you're part of a faction?
I actually COMPLETELY disagree with this. If Parama was scum he would simply pass it to someone who wasn't scum, possibly muh. If Parama was town, he would find someone who was a moron/scum to pass it to without really asking... possibly muh. Null.
You are scum, pops.
popsofctown wrote:I feel strawmanned. I'm arguing that the manner in which Parama received clarification and how he described it sounds suspect. Of course I wouldn't suggest that theme games infrequently require clarification.
Speaking of you being scum, this to me reads as a scumslip.
In your #20 in iso you poison the well, only to refute your own argument. Your last line of it ends up being "not playing the victim here", when you ARE doing that in that post, and you WERE doing that in the post you made RIGHT BEFORE THAT. ARE YOU DENSE? YOU ARE MAKING ME FEEL LIKE FATE. GEEZ.
popsofctown wrote:It's antitown the entire game. Putting off the task of removing it will just make it more difficult :/
treestumping DOES NOT REMOVE SCUMHUNTING OK?
popsofctown wrote:unvote: Parama
for god's sake
really? this far into a game, and an unvote without any explanation!
In his #23 in iso, "diddin is scummy" into him coaching diddin, and a cute comment about how RC is "hard to read"... not for me... I've seen RC as town in a game, and this isn't how he plays. On top of that, your speculation towards him seems forced.
Your #24 is trying to beg the town to excuse you for pushing a case on a null-tell on what you know to be a townie because you're scum
#25 yet again your interaction with diddin with the "reminds me of my own tendencies when i play scum" is like trying to guide a fledgling scumbuddy into the lategame simply based upon the fact that he's a PR you don't want to lose
he then chainsaws wrathchild somewhat with an FoS because he is suspicious of diddin. Sure, guys, lets lynch the noob. So, basically, he is pushing a null case on Parama when anyone would have done what he did regardless of alignment (actually scum would have picked a GOOD player to bomb who was V/LA imo), and is now defending scum by calling his attacker "scummy". Are you afraid to say he's scum? Do you not like to lie. You are scum. I don't mind saying it. I know I'm not, and you could be, and my heart is telling me you are, so I'll say what I feel. You are scum, you are scum, you are scum.
your lack of willingness to use the word scum vs scummy is noted, though most will disagree with me on that mattering. Then you say "but the only way wrathchild would no that is if he were scum and diddin were town, not the reverse" note how he used "no" instead of "know". I'm finding this to be a scumslip, but I'm already tunneling him, so finding his scumslips are ezpz.
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