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Post Post #275 (ISO) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:41 pm

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Please look at the people voting you and comment, or I will put my vote back on you.
Put you vote on me if you think I warrant it, not simply out of flippant rage.

I think xvart is scum (though not only for his actions), flameaxe is on point and tajo is rather netural.
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Post Post #276 (ISO) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 5:44 pm

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@MS: Answering your earlier question, PoisonIvy most likely found the tape in some other room. I was incorrect in my earlier interpretation of poisonivy being town due to the tape.
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Post Post #277 (ISO) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:56 pm

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Guderian is even more scummy than before.

Let's lynch him and kill 2 scums on day 1.
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Post Post #278 (ISO) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 7:57 pm

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I'm sorely tempted to revote, because I thought he was just being an easy target, but my god he's looking like really obvscum now :/
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Post Post #279 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:41 am

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Guderian wrote:chess, then why aren't you voting one of them (flameaxe, tajo, xvart)?

ckd, for confirmed town? Are you against that idea.
There was nothing there, two people were there, one is still there. Your turn.


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1.) confirming a power role puts a fucking target on his back or helps mafia figure out who they want to kill.

2.) it doesnt 100% clear him..AT ALL.
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Post Post #280 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:42 am

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vezokpiraka wrote:Guderian is even more scummy than before.

Let's lynch him and kill 2 scums on day 1.

trying to figure out if he is scum or just a really bad mafia player..

meta time.
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Post Post #281 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 1:58 am

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populartajo wrote:forgot something on my reread, @flay, what on my sudden appearance stunk?
Just the proximity to IS' death. Circumstantial evidence FTW.
Guderian wrote:Another death? At this rate, we wont make it out of day one.

Whoever shot Almaster should come forward. They are pretty much confirmed town at this point, baring 2 scum groups or more. (which seems unlikely)
Sad to see your scumbuddy down so soon?

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Also, Almaster's flip makes me think we might be dealing with a Smalltown setup. In which case, claims are going to be even more suspect than usual. Hunt on scumminess, not role, folks.

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Post Post #282 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:10 am

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Post Post #283 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:13 am

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Post Post #284 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:14 am

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Post Post #285 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 3:40 am

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Fecking idiots. Ive got work in like half an hour and LEFT MY LUNCH BEHIND ME IN THE CAFE BELOW >( to come up and stop this faggotry. Guderian is likely town so any town votes there are wasted. ALSO apart from me he's pretty much acted independantly and spoken with reason which alot ALOT of people seem to be devoid of. And since WHEN did bussing in the RVS become international symbol for scum? Albeit im not ruling out the possibility but i repeat Guderian is town and unless something was said i can really see this lynch going through.

The captains dead btw. He was in my room with a blank screen. Under a search of my room i found the tape. The whole purpose of the tape is to say that the convict/s do not yet have control of the ship and as we know specific game rule #5 town starts with control. More explanations at 9/9.30 depending on the weather and how many times i fall on my ass but please not votie votie bang bang til i come back.

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Post Post #286 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 5:57 am

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I'm liking Ivy. She displays a certain recklessness I tend to associate with townie behavior.
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Post Post #287 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:08 am

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(Let me get this out of the way. Before this wagon becomes unstoppable, I would like the people voting me to make a short bullet point set of why my actions mean I am scum. happy to answer)
trying to figure out if he is scum or just a really bad mafia player..
mind explaining: What about my play means I am either scum, or a bad mafia player?

Anyways, after rereading, we need a serious wagon on one of these three people.

1.Katuski
2. DGB
3. xvart

1. Looks to play a typical fly-under-the-radar gamestyle. Most of his posts are short one liners 'clearing' people and then unclearing them a few posts later. I see nothing good here. I urge other people to ISO and share thoughts

2. DGB, what are you doing this game?? You're on par with PYP4 [where she was scum], when you sat around twiddled your thumbs and every once in a while come in with amost irrelevant amusing thoughts. What are your thoughts on this game state. Who is scum?

3. I have read his logic, and it seems contrived to me. anyways, I will have a greater picture about his alignment when he returns and answers the two questions. until now, he remains here.

unvote

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And as to flays recent post, open ended rhetorical questions dont really accomplish much (and I have found them to be rather scummy). I dont agree with basing a vote of that..
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Post Post #288 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:35 am

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@Flay

What suspicion? I haven't seen any in your posts, so I don't know what your talking about about 'without losing any real suspicion', especially since, on the outer level, none has been stated :?
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Post Post #289 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:37 am

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Post Post #290 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:43 am

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Guderian wrote:2. DGB, what are you doing this game?? You're on par with PYP4 [where she was scum], when you sat around twiddled your thumbs and every once in a while come in with amost irrelevant amusing thoughts. What are your thoughts on this game state. Who is scum?
I have two confirmed townies and one probable townie. Plus myself who is town, and whom everyone just luuuuuuv! It says so in my role PM.

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Post Post #291 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:59 am

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I have a new method on how to find scum.

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Post Post #292 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:10 am

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chesskid3, 243 wrote:Well i asked and I can't leave the lobby so uh I don't really care.
The other point is that everyone will be able to identify if someone is not here. It will prevent us from going into discussion about lurkers and whether or not someone is lurking or mysteriously went into another room (unless someone from that room comes back and says "oh yeah, so-and-so is in the boiler room yammering").
Mod: can someone who has access to a room discuss what is going on in that room if they are not in it? (for example, if I had access to the hypothetical boiler room and could read the QT could I say in the public room that chesskid is in the boiler room talking right now?).


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Guderian, 244 wrote:What I wonder, though, is if xvart expressed such suspicion of Alamaster, why he plonked a vote on me.
I wasn't really that suspicious of Alamaster because of his comment to me. I thought it was a flawed observation and it was an annoying throw away comment that could be considered scummy. It wasn't a red flag for scum.
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xvart wrote:I agree. Also, his post about not knowing the town destination while he quoted the ruleset post that says the ship is currently headed towards the town destination should go hand in hand with each other if you are town aligned and are headed to the town planet.
Which I'm not sure is indicative of anything, and isn't even how it panned out. Would you mind elaborating?
You quoted the rule post where it said the ship was headed toward a town destination. You say you don't know where the destination is. If town you would know what the town destination is, therefore you could substitute in the destination in your role pm for the ship is headed for the town destination. I just went back and looked and you were the first to say in thread what the town destination was so my argument is now moot because it is more a case of not putting two and two together or not thinking through your post before posting instead of not having knowledge of the town destination. If you are scum, you would have known the town destination anyway (to produce it first) so my argument has no bearing on scum motives/knowledge base.
Guderian, 264 wrote:Xvart:
1. Did you kill internet stranger?
2. Can you access any other rooms?
  1. No
  2. Explain to me the town motivation for claiming if I have access to other rooms and then I'll consider answering. Until that point, I see no good reason to reveal anything about my role or abilities.
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Guderian, 264 wrote:Whoever shot Almaster should come forward. They are pretty much confirmed town at this point, baring 2 scum groups or more. (which seems unlikely)
Why does it seem unlikely that there is more then one scum group?
Guderian, 247 wrote:xvart did you shoot Internet Stranger?
I shot neither Internet Stranger nor Alamaster.

So while my original reason for voting you is moot your actions since are still scummy. Your constant prodding at room locations, people who have access, etc. is strange. I don't know if it is suspicious or curiosity killing the cat at this juncture, but I think it is enough to stick with my vote on you. Hell, for all I know you could be a SK who needs to kill at least one person in each room so you are fishing out targets. Additionally, your comment on it being unlikely that there is more than one scumgroup is highly suspect. The only possible way to think this (at this juncture) is if you know the size of the single scum group not being conducive to having another scum group because there has been no actions other than daykills which give no indication of number of scum groups outside of there being at least one (Alamaster's).
populartajo, 261 wrote:
almaster wrote:I've never played with chesskid so I don't get all the hate.
wat, how dont you get it if you have never played with him?
What kind of throw away comment is this?
chesskid3, 265 wrote:No, Guderian, the problem with you claiming the ships town destination and trying to use it to clear yourself is that is what scum with fakeclaim would do.
Actually, I'm thinking that the scum wouldn't know what the destination is because otherwise it would probably be in the initial post instead of "the destination is headed for town" but that is mod-WIFOM.
Guderian, 275 wrote:I think xvart is scum (though not only for his actions), flameaxe is on point and tajo is rather netural.
What else is there to go on other than my actions?
Mr. Flay, 281 wrote:Also, Almaster's flip makes me think we might be dealing with a Smalltown setup. In which case, claims are going to be even more suspect than usual. Hunt on scumminess, not role, folks.
What is a Smalltown setup? Is it as described on the wiki?
PoisonIvy, 285 wrote:Fecking idiots. Ive got work in like half an hour and LEFT MY LUNCH BEHIND ME IN THE CAFE BELOW >( to come up and stop this faggotry. Guderian is likely town so any town votes there are wasted. ALSO apart from me he's pretty much acted independantly and spoken with reason which alot ALOT of people seem to be devoid of. And since WHEN did bussing in the RVS become international symbol for scum? Albeit im not ruling out the possibility but i repeat Guderian is town and unless something was said i can really see this lynch going through.

The captains dead btw. He was in my room with a blank screen. Under a search of my room i found the tape. The whole purpose of the tape is to say that the convict/s do not yet have control of the ship and as we know specific game rule #5 town starts with control. More explanations at 9/9.30 depending on the weather and how many times i fall on my ass but please not votie votie bang bang til i come back.
What is with the sensationalism? Is Guderian really that close to being lynched while you are gone (or anytime in the near future)? He had five votes at the time of your post. Also, was he in your room at the time of his death? As in you found his body laying there?
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Post Post #293 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:20 am

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Hey everyone, what's going on in this room?
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Post Post #294 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:53 am

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^You haven't.

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Post Post #295 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:29 am

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Wait what, so your case against me is based on my style of one-liners? You're also somewhat misrepping the "accusing then clearing" players thing, that happened once when I misread something.

That said, why are there not more dafish votes? Tries to encourage item speculation pre-game, daykill revealing, and asks a question about what the dead pilot means for us?
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Post Post #296 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:30 am

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Dafish is a reasonable vote
so is poison ivy
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Post Post #297 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:34 am

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Wait so what is it that you don't like about poison ivy?
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Post Post #298 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 10:50 am

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simultaneously calling me town and yet liking AlmasterGM's vote on me (pre-him getting daykilled and flipping scum)
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Post Post #299 (ISO) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 12:33 pm

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chesskid3 wrote:...yet liking AlmasterGM's vote on me (pre-him getting daykilled and flipping scum)
Do you think a scum would compliment his/her buddy on great vote placement? Nah... not impossible, but very unlikely.
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