Open 263 - The Wild Life [Game Over]

[Lateralus22]

Um what? Tell you what, explain to me the pro-town thought process behind what he's saying and why I'm wrong about him. What is wrong about tunneling, where are my concerns not legit?

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Assuming Later's vote counts are correct, SV stayed off of the shotty wagon until L-2, with the post:

I'd rather lynch shotty than NO LYNCH. C'MON GUYS.

unvote

Vote: drmyshottyizsik

I don't know why SV would jump onto the wagon rather than not post at all,

unless he wanted town points. Care to explain SV? Or care to come online at all?


I would prefer lynching SV, who hasn't really done much for this game to DP, based on who I think is mafia/werewolf. I'd like to see SV's two cents too, he hasn't been around toDay.

Wait -- so you're seriously asking me why I would participate rather than lurk?

[Lateralus22]

...THATS ALL YOU GOT? WTF MAN.

Who is scum and why? And why the hell do you have NO REACTION to being put at L-1?

Can we please string this guy up? I'm tired of waiting.

[chkflip]

UNVOTE:

- No, Lateralus, we can't. We still have until after Christmas. Iam's right, it's not a target, but using the time wisely is better than rushing and making mistakes. Now, please, calm yourself.

-

SV

, he does make a point. There are several questions aimed at you in the last few pages that you should answer so we can move on and/or lynch you.

[Lateralus22]

/sigh....

Using time for the sake of is stupid. What do you want to talk about? Bring those specific points here and now. Why is this mistake, how is this guy possibly town? Long drawn out days encourage lurking and apathy, if you want to draw out the day bring content with you.

Dunno why you're citing Iam when he encouraged us to end the day.

[chkflip]

Don't get me wrong, I'm still on the wagon of SV being scum and will happily hammer if he isn't more compliant with us. I just don't want him to completely feel like giving up if he turns out to be a disheartened townie. L-2 isn't that much different than L-1.

And, for the record, I cited Iam because I was partially agreeing with him.

[Lateralus22]

>.> mhmk. But seriously, if we don't lynch this guy within three days without have a LOT of content come in as a substitute I will rage. hardcore.

Shattered get in here.

[chkflip]

Whatever you say, Fate2.

[andrew94]

wait, so do you think shattered is the werewolf or the mafia?

[Lateralus22]

- How do you think you played D1?

2 -- I never look back. Too depressing.

@DavidP: I was having trouble choosing between the three scummiest of the scummy.

Also, Day One sucks. Day Two is here now, and will be better.

heh heh,... Day 1 sucked and was depressing.. well maybe for you

drmyshottyizsik,

Werewolf

, Lynched Day 1.

we hit warewolf so it was good for us... why would D1 have been bad and depressing for

you

hmmmm theories anyone??

unvote
vote:SV

[andrew94]

do you think it was a slip?

[Lateralus22]

Didn't take it seriously yesterday but since I was wrong about park's specific team then yeah, I'd say it probably is.

mafia: andrew, parknourie,

ScottBro

I realize this is totally WIFOM and all but anyone thinking the same thing I am?

[andrew94]

im pretty sure shattered viewpoint cant be the mafia, but he could still be the wolf

[jasonT1981]

im pretty sure shattered viewpoint cant be the mafia, but he could still be the wolf

Regardless, we need to take out both wolves and scum for us to win.. SV is not town regardless of what alignment he maybe (Scum/wolf) and needs lynched

[jasonT1981]

or hope they rip each other apart (pun intended) like last night

[Lateralus22]

Right now, we should be looking at who tried to derail the shotty wagon or didn't want a shotty lynch because having your werewolf buddy lynched day 1 with a seer in the game is never a good idea so

I doubt he was bussed.

I'm VERY sure SV is the remaining werewolf

drmyshottyizsik (7) -silverbullet999, jasonT1981, OpposedForce, chkflip,

Shattered Viewpoint

, parknourie, DavidParker [Lynched.]

Yeah. Which one is it? Seriously.

[DavidParker]

He doesn't comment much on shotty or do anything, except in one of his posts when someone asks what the case on shotty is, and SV replies "he's apparently a werewolf" (implying he doesnt quite believe it, but at the same time saying he's apparently a werewolf and not apparently scum could be a slip).

he only reluctantly later votes shotty to "avoid a no lynch", implying he doesn't actually find him that scummy or wolfy. By bussing, I'm referring to pushing a hard case against him. At no point did SV push a case against shotty. Sure he voted him, but that was towards the end of the wagon and unconvincingly. It's the people who pushed cases against shotty consistently who i don't believe are werewolves.

[Lateralus22]

Then why did you say thought jason was the werewolf the last phase?

[DavidParker]

Wow, i now understand my slip.

it's actually a typo.

I think jason or Later is scum, not werewolf.

I've made it clear that I think SV is shotty's werewolf buddy. Obviously Jason or Later can't be the third werewolf as there only is two. This 3 faction game has gotten me confused between wolves and scum. That post was meant to read I thought one of you two is probably scum (or both at the time), I've consistently believed SV to be shotty's werewolf buddy.

[kunkstar7]

:: VoteCount 3x3 ::

andrew94 (0) -
smashbro_of_the_SSS (0) -
DavidParker (1) -

andrew94

Shattered Viewpoint (3) -

iamausername, Lateralus22, jasonT1981

Lateralus22 (0) -
jasonT1981 (0) -
chkflip (0) -
iamausername (0) -

Not Voting (4) -

smashbro_of_the_SSS, Shattered Viewpoint, DavidParker, chkflip

With 8 Alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline for Day Three is Wednesday, December 29, 6:00pm EST.

I'm declining the prod request on Shattered Viewpoint due to the fact that he has appeared in thread.

[DavidParker]

Vote: SV

[chkflip]

I'll hammer if SV doesn't claim and answer all questions asked of him.

Last three pages.

24 hours.

Go.

[jasonT1981]

damn you sb. damn you! i was lookin forward to playing with you.

SV/park/

andrew

are my choices right now in that order.

VERY Next post

I agree, there are many people I would rather lynch than Andrew.

He's probably not my third choice as a lynch target, since I actually think he's town

despite his "fake" v/la.

SV then park are my 2 top picks, but they are the obvious picks/lynches.

and the next post after that

have we not estabilished

it's best to just ignore andrew?

there may be a case there for erineyes/scott but

andrew is just a nuisance.

in three posts... 3 different views... then this blinder.. he was expected people to see him as OBV town....but he KNEW he was gonna flip scum... then goes into WIFOM with the pushing of lynches.

because we can discuss today or later.

he was gonna flip scum anyways

.

i'm not sure how all those people have been listed as obv town, i was expecting people to call me obv town when day 1 both myself and guthrie pushed hard for scott's lynch.

Not to mention i pushed hard for shotty's lynch as well. Bussing your werewolf on day 1 when there is a seer in the game to out werewolves seems like a terrible plan.

Note scum not wolf... interesting then talks about

pushing Shotty lynch TO BUS!!!

now these two.. seems to try and confirm himself as non wolf... would you not want to be confirmed town though...

I just iso'd myself (to remind myself of my earlier views and vote movement), and see no reason as to how I'm either werewolf or scum.

basically confirms me as non-wolf. If i was his wolf buddy the logical move here would be to attack SB for his bussing and tunneling with no reasoning. Instead I just quote it (implying my agreement). How anyone thinks i'm a wolf is beyond me, except for andrew because he is actually on the far lower end of the IQ scale.

There's "slightly" more reasoning to me being mafia, but it would still involve me busing BOTH my scum buddies. I only got off their back to vote for shotty or SV (who i still think is shotty's wolf buddy)

now this

Just doing your town-hunting for you since you guys are hopeless.

As I already said, we scumhunt.. not town hunt

[Shattered Viewpoint]

From smashbro's #543 (which I've already dealt with), forward:

^DP needs to vote in his next post Asap. SV is still more probable werewolf because of the not liking day 1 comment.

Please connect for me how not liking Day One makes me a werewolf. Seriously, that's like claiming I'm scum because bananas. WTF?

As promised:
mafia: andrew, parknourie, ScottBro
Werewolf: jason
Reasons: andrew & park are just too scummy, if I really have to explain why, then you're the VI. Scottbro is not playing to his town meta.
jason is being far too analytical for his normal town play; and he voted shotty very early (perhaps to distance himself for later).

- I'd like to hear from Shattered one more time before we hammer, tbh.

What, specifically, would you like to hear? I'll re-give my scum reads if you'd like. (See below.)

...THATS ALL YOU GOT? WTF MAN.
Who is scum and why? And why the hell do you have NO REACTION to being put at L-1?
Can we please string this guy up? I'm tired of waiting.

Okay. Scum (and werewolf) is (as I've said earlier):

mafia: andrew, parknourie, (ScottBro)

Werewolf: jason


I don't react much to being put at L-1,

especially

on Day One.

I hate Day One.

How many times do I have to say this?

UNVOTE:

- No, Lateralus, we can't. We still have until after Christmas. Iam's right, it's not a target, but using the time wisely is better than rushing and making mistakes. Now, please, calm yourself.
-

SV

, he does make a point. There are

several questions

aimed at you in the last few pages that you should answer so we can move on and/or lynch you.

I'm responding to everything I've found directed at me. If there's more, feel free to re-ask.

im pretty sure shattered viewpoint cant be the mafia, but he could still be the wolf

Regardless, we need to take out both wolves and scum for us to win.. SV is not town regardless of what alignment he maybe (Scum/wolf) and needs lynched

Please to tell me why I'm so Not Town. Thanks!

He doesn't comment much on shotty or do anything, except in one of his posts when someone asks what the case on shotty is, and SV replies "he's apparently a werewolf" (implying he doesnt quite believe it, but at the same time saying he's apparently a werewolf and not apparently scum could be a slip).
he only reluctantly later votes shotty to "avoid a no lynch", implying he doesn't actually find him that scummy or wolfy. By bussing, I'm referring to pushing a hard case against him. At no point did SV push a case against shotty. Sure he voted him, but that was towards the end of the wagon and unconvincingly. It's the people who pushed cases against shotty consistently who i don't believe are werewolves.

I have played with shotty before, much to my dismay; I was really just trying to ignore him. (I know, not the best scumhunting strategy, but.) It's not so much a case of distancing as it was just trying to ignore the little gnat that keeps bothering you at an otherwise fine picnic.

That said,

Vote: jason

[jasonT1981]

im pretty sure shattered viewpoint cant be the mafia, but he could still be the wolf

Regardless, we need to take out both wolves and scum for us to win.. SV is not town regardless of what alignment he maybe (Scum/wolf) and needs lynched

Please to tell me why I'm so Not Town. Thanks!

Sure, I already have but lets rehash.. lets start with this

- How do you think you played D1?

2 -- I never look back. Too depressing.

@DavidP: I was having trouble choosing between the three scummiest of the scummy.

Also, Day One sucks. Day Two is here now, and will be better.

heh heh,... Day 1 sucked and was depressing.. well maybe for you

drmyshottyizsik,

Werewolf

, Lynched Day 1.

we hit warewolf so it was good for us... why would D1 have been bad and depressing for

you

hmmmm theories anyone??

unvote
vote:SV

then we have this little doozie

Erinyes was scum by virtue of huggling me. I DO NOT LIKE BEING TOUCHED. Scum always know this.

ScottBro replaced in for Erinyes, and therefore, Scott Bro is also scum.

Case closed, yes?

Wait.. really this is the case??

then this blinder of a reasoning to defend his vote

It's all I've got.

then note the defence of Shotty here..

played with him a few times, note the game i linked Shotty was town and did not go after Andrew even though he was playing this exact same way... Scum did however I was scum in that game... now Shotty is going after Andrew for similar things that scum went after him for in the last game yet Shotty didn't as town.

therefor I believe Shotty is scum

Okay, see, I can understand (slightly) how you could potentially persuade yourself that this has some little tiny bits of logic-ness inside of it, but I really, really don't follow the leap from A to B to Banana. And then the last major leap over into "Shotty is scum because the Eiffel Tower is still standing."

Help me?

Also, have you any reasoning to you thinking I am wolf? you have said it but provided no reasons... not even for your vote well actuially this is the only reason you have on me

As promised:

mafia: andrew, parknourie, ScottBro

Werewolf: jason

Reasons: andrew & park are just too scummy, if I really have to explain why, then you're the VI. Scottbro is not playing to his town meta.

jason is being far too analytical for his normal town play; and he voted shotty very early (perhaps to distance himself for later).

Any other reasoning? also, what do you feel about the case on DP? who you have said little to nothing on... so yes, please give me reasons you think I am wolf?