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Post Post #61 (isolation #0) » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:51 am

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Katsuki wrote:It helps that there's no shortage of nukes.
Dude imagine the power of having the submarine in this game
Only for SCUM.

If you're wondering, I feel a lot better this morning after some heavy meds and heavy rest.

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Post Post #289 (isolation #1) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:04 am

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This isn't a RECK game. We don't have to spam the crap out of it.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #2) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:09 am

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Jed, are you an Ythan alt? Answer truthfully now.

And Fate, I'm trying to read up. Shut the fuck up.
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Post Post #294 (isolation #3) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:10 am

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Internet Stranger makes my eyes bleed. It's mafia, not D&D.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #4) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:14 am

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By the way, if I have a vig, I'll use it however the fuck I want. Vig is my FAVORITE role.

I have awesome reads, I just suck at getting other people to fucking listen >.>
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Post Post #301 (isolation #5) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:24 am

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Chess is scum.
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Post Post #315 (isolation #6) » Thu Dec 09, 2010 2:51 pm

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Jack wrote:Let's lynch gandalf day 1.
This I can get behind.
SP, you haven't even played with me since Alphabet Mafia. >.>
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Post Post #332 (isolation #7) » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:45 am

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Look. How the fuck can we control nukes anyways? If someone wants to nuke whoever, they will. Then..... we'll lynch them? Won't stop the nuke. My point is, why bother? The whole point of this game is that everybody has a dayvig.
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Post Post #366 (isolation #8) » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:53 pm

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BY THE WAY.

If you want to hang me cause I nuke without your permission, you can do it. But when you lose cause you lynched me for no goddamn reason, you're gonna be feeling like a dumbass.
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Post Post #369 (isolation #9) » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:24 pm

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Haha. Yeah, it would create a lot of pressure. Pressure is how you catch scum, dumbass.

As for huge distraction..... How so? TBH, it'd be like a vote. Who knows whether you're going to recall it or not? At least, that's how I'd use it.
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Post Post #371 (isolation #10) » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:34 pm

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You've yet to state how an environment in which everyone's under a bunch of pressure is beneficial to scum.
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Post Post #373 (isolation #11) » Fri Dec 10, 2010 4:47 pm

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Lolstretching.

I said "why bother" at some point. That clearly means I've given up. And what I said is a fact. NUKES ARE THE FUCKING POINT OF THE GAME. THEY WERE NOT PUT IN AS ADDITIONAL LYNCHES. THEY WERE PUT IN AS
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Post Post #405 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:20 am

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Seriously, Jed is giving me a headache. He's yet to state how the hell directing power roles is a good idea.
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Post Post #409 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:48 am

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So. I just sent in my choices. Back to an exact clone of DEFCON 5..... >.>
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Post Post #418 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:34 am

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You know, nukes will be a great way to pressure lurkers. I mean, "Hey, you've got 48 hours to remind me why I want to recall this fucker. Buhbye."

Talk about pressure.
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Post Post #432 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:29 pm

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You really are a funny guy, Jed. You honestly think that dayvigs should be used as a second lynch? FUCK NO. Dayvigs are used just like any power role. They're used to align with YOUR reads. The whole point of a dayvig is that you can take someone out WITHOUT waiting for the town to agree with you.
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Post Post #444 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:51 pm

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Jed Cooper wrote:Only if you are unclaimed Gandalf. If you are trying to say that a claimed dayvig shouldn't be used as town, that is only an argument from scum.
HAHAHAHAHA. Yes. You never direct a vig, because SCUM can influence a directed vig.
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Post Post #450 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:57 pm

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Jed Cooper wrote:Only if you are unclaimed Gandalf. If you are trying to say that a claimed dayvig shouldn't be used as town, that is only an argument from scum.
HAHAHAHAHA. Yes. You never direct a vig, because SCUM can influence a directed vig.
Excuse me but you claim vig in a an open setup where the vig can be town or scum, and you DON'T allow the town to influence your vig? That is only scum hiding in the vig claim and is lynched.
No. I don't. If you think otherwise for some fuckin weird reason, you can go to hell.
Toogeloo wrote:Americans have two separate factions it seems as well...

The hand holding, love your neighbor, Mormons, and the shoot first, mount it (define as you will), and hang it, then ask questions later, Louisiana marsh-dwelling Rednecks. Choose a side my fellow Americans ^_^.
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Post Post #453 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:00 pm

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But town hasn't sanctioned that nuke. Therefore, you have to e scum. Because only scum would ever have a read that nobody else believes in.
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Post Post #456 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:06 pm

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Also Jed, are you seriously implying that all the people who are advocating personal control of nukes are scum? Because there are a lot more than six of us.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:06 pm

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Oh, and you won't get a chance to nuke me, we're lynching you D1.
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Post Post #460 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 1:08 pm

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Us. As in, people who think you're a dumbass.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 11, 2010 5:33 pm

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BTW, I think Sub is awesome for town. It means you can nuke without idiots like Jed questioning the fact that you're killing scum over and over again.
Jed Cooper wrote:
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Jed Cooper wrote:Only if you are unclaimed Gandalf. If you are trying to say that a claimed dayvig shouldn't be used as town, that is only an argument from scum.
HAHAHAHAHA. Yes. You never direct a vig, because SCUM can influence a directed vig.
Excuse me but you claim vig in a an open setup where the vig can be town or scum, and you DON'T allow the town to influence your vig? That is only scum hiding in the vig claim and is lynched.
No. I don't. If you think otherwise for some fuckin weird reason, you can go to hell.
OK IF SOMEBODY IN THIS GAME DOESN'T ANSWER THIS ARGUMENT AND PUT IT DOWN, I FRANKLY GIVE UP AND GANDALF IS MY NUKE IF I GET ONE.
PUT DOWN: IF A VIG IS DIRECTED, SCUM CAN HELP DIRECT HIM. DIRECTION IS NOT THE ANSWER. IF THE VIG IS CLEARLY VIGGING FOR ANTITOWN PURPOSES, YOU LYNCH THE FUCKER.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #23) » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:20 am

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Jed Cooper wrote:Addressing your (apparently unrelated) point though, you said that there is no difference between the two lists. Placing silo where you have placed it creates a huge difference in relation to the other 5 roles that are available and for the above stated reasons.
But if you never put them on the list in the first place (list #1), list #1 is identical to list #2.

in other news, what about a mass sub/not sub claim?
1) If sub is claimed, we can keep them accountable for their nuke choices.
2) If it's not claimed, we can assume it's in scum hands and react accordingly.
If I'm the sub, I know I'm sure as hell not claiming it.
Jed Cooper wrote: The scum want your worldview to prevail, why do you think its so popular? Its because you have full scum support buddy. So don't give yourself too much credit.
This is fucking retarded. There are only six scum in the game. i.e. Much closer to the size of your movement, if you really want to start throwing around baseless accusations.

I love how we have 5 scum already. Jed, Toog, Dana, Katsuki, and chess.

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Post Post #571 (isolation #24) » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:32 am

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MUST. NOT. BE TEMPTED. BY THE KITTY.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #25) » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:58 am

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Internet Stranger wrote:Hey Gandalf, shouldnt your scumlist include lurkers?
Eh. Maybe one or two of the lurkers are scum. Who's to decide which, though?
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Post Post #604 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:51 am

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Nice. Defending your defender. Real subtle.
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Post Post #611 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:58 am

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gandalf5166 wrote:Nice. Defending your defender. Real subtle.
Subtelty is generally the friend of scum.
So since you were obvious about your scumminess, you must be town?
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Post Post #613 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:04 am

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That's not a good comparison. I like MoI town. Not so much Baku scum.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #29) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:05 am

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I think I might actually like DEFCON 4 and 5. They eliminate the need for an RVS.
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Post Post #619 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:17 am

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Lol. So just because we have SOME PRs that we want, we have to want all of them?
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Post Post #645 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:36 am

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Chess, your reads are too off for you to be town this game. Sorry.
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Post Post #647 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 9:44 am

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Because they don't coincide with mine, and my reads are right.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:10 am

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LOLOL

You're still keeping up that idea of second lynches? You realize that if we DID decide to use them like that, we could just have an infinite number of lynches, right? So why stop at two?
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Post Post #658 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:38 am

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Toog, did you read the Silo PM? You should. There's the option to set your silo to ICBM mode, which stops the first nuke.
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Post Post #662 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 11:56 am

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As in, the Silo Role PM?
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Post Post #689 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:45 pm

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VOTE: Jed


LETS GO, BITCHES!
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Post Post #711 (isolation #37) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 6:58 am

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Let him bus. It's fine. We can still lynch him.
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Post Post #730 (isolation #38) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:17 am

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Eh.
VOTE: dana


You know what happens in DEFCON 2, though..........
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Post Post #758 (isolation #39) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:16 am

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Why would the failsafe be town? If any member of the town put failsafe anywhere on their list, they need to die now.
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Post Post #762 (isolation #40) » Wed Dec 15, 2010 11:33 am

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gandalf5166 wrote:Why would the failsafe be town? If any member of the town put failsafe anywhere on their list, they need to die now.
I put Failsafe on my list, go for it.
Why? Why would you have rather had Failsafe than a nuke?
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Post Post #834 (isolation #41) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:23 am

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Oh. After that last post, bobs is lookin pretty scummy.
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Post Post #853 (isolation #42) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 10:55 am

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Toogeloo wrote:According to Fate, we have 8 Scum in this game:

dana
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That's almost half the game... Even if 7 of the 8 flip town, if that 8th flips scum, I guarantee Fate will be like, "I told you so, my reads are awesome!"
Errr....... There are six scum in this game. I think it's highly likely that at LEAST five of them are on that list.
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Post Post #861 (isolation #43) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:21 pm

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Faraday wrote:vote for jed is scummy enough by itself, really.
Wrong.
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Post Post #889 (isolation #44) » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:07 pm

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danakillsu wrote:Jed Wagon:
Fate, blatant bandwagon vote, which he admits.
gandalf, obvious bandwagon vote with no reasoning.
Sociopath, lurk-vote.
danakillsu, vote with a little reasoning that hints at being a pressure vote.
Internet Stranger, vote with the reason of Jed having lied.
Lol. Did you even READ DEFCON 5/4? The case is everywhere in there.
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Post Post #946 (isolation #45) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 10:01 am

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unvote
VOTE: Toog
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Post Post #972 (isolation #46) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:19 pm

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@bunny: We have three scum. I've switched my vote between them because I don't give half a shit which one gets lynched first.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #47) » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:51 pm

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Bunnylover wrote: @Gandalf: I think its two scum team the town are facing.
I realize that we have six scum in the game. I meant that we have three 100% caught scum.
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Post Post #1075 (isolation #48) » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:10 pm

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I'm no longer reading Toog's posts. Can we lynch the bitch now? And tomorrow we can lynch chess. I've never seen chess-scum before. It's pretty hilarious.
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Post Post #1096 (isolation #49) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:08 am

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1. Fail breadcrumb 2. Didn't we already decide that anybody who picked failsafe would be insta-lynched? There is no pro-town reason to pick that.
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Post Post #1098 (isolation #50) » Tue Dec 21, 2010 7:11 am

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But toog is scum, yes? Just because he says he's american post-death doesn't mean he is.
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Post Post #1127 (isolation #51) » Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:30 pm

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Oh my god Toog....... I will probably never play with you again. Doing bullshit like that is unnacceptable.

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Post Post #1130 (isolation #52) » Sun Dec 26, 2010 5:29 pm

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Just realized I'm already signed up for a game with Toog. I talked to him though, and I guess I'll give him another chance. That was just.....

Well. On to this game.

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Post Post #1139 (isolation #53) » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:34 am

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danakillsu wrote:
vote: Fate
I told you not to lynch Toog, you kept after him anyway, and he eventually just claimed scum because he knew lynching him would be best for us even though he was town. It's time for you to pay up for your "scumhunting" methods.
This quote boils down to "Hey, being responsible for a mislynch means Fate has to be scum. Because everybody who's town never mislynches."
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Post Post #1188 (isolation #54) » Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:05 pm

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I IS HERE. I sorta read the last page. What I saw was a lot of bitchin' and people saying my reaction was fake. That and danascum.
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Post Post #1248 (isolation #55) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 10:38 am

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I'm sorry, but I have to request replacement in all my games. Mafia is becoming an addiction rather than a hobby, and it's sucking away hours of my life each day. I know this is selfish considering the huge number of games I'm in(I just counted, it's 10), but that's just it. I'll still do MishMash, and GD, and maybe even the occasional Marathon day or Reck/dram-mod, but I really have to get out. I keep telling myself that I'm going to quit, and I tell myself I'll quit after my current games finish, but then I see another game that I just HAVE to join, and it's self-perpetuating. This is the only way I can see to stop. Sorry. I'm just glad I had the cajones to actually request replacement instead of just flaking.
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Post Post #1271 (isolation #56) » Wed Dec 29, 2010 3:14 pm

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I'm sorry, but I have to request replacement in all my games. Mafia is becoming an addiction rather than a hobby, and it's sucking away hours of my life each day. I know this is selfish considering the huge number of games I'm in(I just counted, it's 10), but that's just it. I'll still do MishMash, and GD, and maybe even the occasional Marathon day or Reck/dram-mod, but I really have to get out. I keep telling myself that I'm going to quit, and I tell myself I'll quit after my current games finish, but then I see another game that I just HAVE to join, and it's self-perpetuating. This is the only way I can see to stop. Sorry. I'm just glad I had the cajones to actually request replacement instead of just flaking.
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Post Post #2798 (isolation #57) » Tue Jan 25, 2011 5:16 pm

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How were the two scumteams communicating? I don't get it >.>

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