Mini 1097: Simple Mafia

[Guderian]

The difference is, i'm not scum.

Dont be so butthurt that someone else found the scum, IS, and join my happy wagon to win this game.

[Plum]

Lynch.

[Guderian]

^^^^^^

This is why either nacho or plum is scum.

Nacho makes a 'case' and disappears like smoke. Plum craps her paints at L-1, but now that the pressure is off decides she can act high and mighty. I stand vindicated. These two should go 1-2.

[Plum]

I can act 'high and mighty' because you're not bothering to pretend to defend yourself. You falsely dismiss the cases against you as if saying that no one believes them makes it true, or makes you less scummy. It doesn't. There's no substantive Town-motivated discussion from you, just the vain hope that empty rhetoric will save you from the noose.

[Guderian]

Would you mind laying out the cases against me so I can refute them?

No one has done that yet.

[Plum]

Have so. Reading is tech, scum, but I'll humor you:

Given the way LC went down, I'd expect his buddy to reluctantly bus him - that is, probably get a vote on in the middle of the wagon,

after

he realizes that LC's demise is unavoidable.

^Noted for future reference as a potential chainsaw if IS ever flips scum.

Pointed at Guderian. Easy painless distancing (given the premise that IS is Town, which is extremely likely so we'll roll with that as fact in this).

The series of posts starting around Post #25 smacks of contrived bantering, culminating in an FOS. On scum. While keeping his vote elsewhere. For LC being 'deliberately obtuse'. Hedging his bets in case IS's declaration bears fruit in an LC wagon).

a. thats nice.
b. thats nice.
c. no one cares.

Weird attempt to use other players meta to make yourself pro-town?

WHILE KEEPING HIS VOTE ON JERBS. Which was, if you recall, an RVS-style vote. He tried to justify it afterwards by referring to vaguely qualified feelings he hadn't referenced before:

I like the LC wagon, but the two posts Jerbs has given have given me more scum vibes then all of LC's rolled into one.

My question was directed to thebuttonman. He makes plenty of sweeping statements, with no conclusion. TBM, what is you final verdict/reason for pointing out all those things in #37.

There's two pages, count the votes yourself.

LC has three votes. Why are you afraid to hammer him?

WHILE NOT VOTING HIM. When LC himself calls Guderian out on this, Guderian votes LC straightaway.

I wonder which scumbag is going to sheepishly show up and bus their partner?

Irony right here.

I would like to note who didn't vote him. You. So I'm not sure what youre trying to pull here.

And in context you find this scummy because . . . ? I'm saying that you deliberately avoided voting LC when his wagon was still in doubt (as to whether it was going to go all the way).

[TheButtonmen]

I'm awake, here and rereading*!

*After I correct the terribly wrong vote count I did before half asleep last night.

[Empking]

Vote Count 7

Guderian (3) - Plum, Internet Stranger, StrangerCoug
StrangerCoug
Nachomamma8 (2) - CooLDog, Guderian
CooLDog
TheButtonmen (1) - Nachomamma8
Internet Stranger
Plum (1) - TheButtonmen

Not Voting:

With seven alive its four to lynch.

[TheButtonmen]

Lets start off with

Unvote: Plum

for now.

Re: Guderian He doesn't have enough finished games to really meta him but he has had this style (belligerent, demanding people explain why they are voting him rather then scumhunting) as town before, that combined with the lack of competing wagons so far today leads me to ask the following.

@IS, Plum and SC:

How open are you to moving your votes?

Also

@Nacho:

Who's your 2nd suspect after me?

[CooLDoG]

@gurd, claim or die. Your logic is crap and I'm willing to hammer again. Why would miscounting the number of players in a themed game be scummy enough for a lynch? IS was the main proponent on the LC lynch party. Baring a mega bus, IS seems like one of the most town players at the moment. You on the other hand drop lynch targets faster then a hot potato.

[Plum]

Lets start off with

Unvote: Plum

for now.

@IS, Plum and SC:

How open are you to moving your votes?

1. Why unvote me?

2. Depends. Do you have a better suspectt to suggest? Belligerence is really not my beef with Guderian. His play around the LC wagon was, I think, very suspect, and belligerence &c. really doesn't change that.

@gurd, claim or die.

[Guderian]

Hello all,

My name is Conrad. For the last week and a half, I have been on vacation. During that time, my little brother saw fit to start using this account to play some game. Instead of not using this account, he has abused it.

I have just returned. I have read this game, and from what I can see, I would like to deeply apologize to all people playing this game. Instead of a game of mafia being what it should be, a fun gathering of like minded people, he-- and this account-- have turned it into a virtual cesspit.

I am greatly offended and saddened by what has happened here. Being courteous to your fellow man and woman, respectful, Is what I hold most dear in this world. This has been grievously violated.

I understand if you no longer want to continue having this account in the game. At this point, I can either replace out, be lynched, or whatever the players in this game may choose. Nothing excuses this behavior. Losing is one thing, being a dick totally another.

Thank you,

Conrad

[TheButtonmen]

Vote: Guderian

Yesterday you made a post in Newbie 1027 which had just ended discussing how you felt the game went; you were lynched in that game November 17th so there is no way your "brother" could have made the post game analysis post.

Lying is bad.

[Nachomamma8]

You could've waited for me to return, you know.

Also @Nacho: Who's your 2nd suspect after me?

SC.

[StrangerCoug]

Explain you goddamn case then. I am asking what the reason is. I still dont understand it. is it this?:

So why exactly are you voting me?

Because you perceive that I claimed 3 scum, then backtracked, then called out IS, all of which is false?

That's the logic I'm having trouble with, yes.

Going after IS? Hardly. I don't think he is scum. The scum is nacho.

Then why the hell are you making such a big fuss about his miscount? How does having the wrong impression of the number of players help scum out, anyway?

@IS, Plum and SC:

How open are you to moving your votes?

Not all that open. I think Internet Stranger put me on the right path here. I'm willing to hear cases on other people, but I'm happy with my vote.

[Nachomamma8]

Guderian was already hammered by TBM

[StrangerCoug]

Well, I'm not too upset. After all, I think we've got it.

[Empking]

Vote Count 7.4

Guderian (4) - Plum, Internet Stranger, StrangerCoug, TheButtonmen

StrangerCoug
Nachomamma8 (2) - CooLDog, Guderian
CooLDog
TheButtonmen (1) - Nachomamma8
Internet Stranger
Plum
Not Voting:

With seven alive its four to lynch.

You woke up and your first thought was of plums (they re rather tasty), as you’d expect your thoughts then turned towards Plum. “Plum is scum” came the universal cry. Well I say universal but it came with one small dissenting voice, Plum’s own. “I think Guderian is scum.”

The universal cry changed as if it was one voice “Guderian is scum.” Once again though it was not fully universal for it came with one lone dissenting voice. “Don’t lynch me I’m Conrad.”

“LAL.” Came the voice of Thebuttonmen as he stabbed Guderian with his desert spoon. “Lynch all liars.”

Guderian was lynched. He was a Mafia Goon (Town)

Night 2 begins now and will end in 48 hours.

[Empking]

Glass lied on the floor near Internet Stranger (that paragon of mafia hunters, that master of analysis, that king of conviction. Sigh. What a swell guy). That glass appeared to be covered in part with melted ice cream. In fact, when you looked at it critically, it appeared that it came from somebody’s ice cream sundae. Who had an ice cream sundae? If only you could recall! That’s especially important due to the fact that it appeared to have been used as a silencer to shoot Internet Stranger in the face!

You called for the waiter to clear up each of your deserts. After all you didn’t want the mafia to get their hands on any more of them. And now, as you look at one another, you know what time it is. Time for coffee.

Internet Strange was killed Night Two. He was a Mafia Goon (Town)

It is now Day Three

[Empking]

Vote Count 7.6

StrangerCoug
Nachomamma8
CooLDog
TheButtonmen
Plum

Not Voting: StrangerCoug, Nachomamma8, CooLDog, TheButtonmen, Plum

With five alive its three to lynch.

[CooLDoG]

v/la: till Christmas Day

I might be able to post some, but I'm not sure...

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: TheButtonmen

Vote: Guderian

Yesterday you made a post in Newbie 1027 which had just ended discussing how you felt the game went; you were lynched in that game November 17th so there is no way your "brother" could have made the post game analysis post.

Lying is bad.

Linked below is the Conrad post Guderian made in #161, in three different games, at the exact same time. I don't see how TBM could've missed them if he went through Guderian's posts...

Mini 1094
Newbie 1034
Pick Your Power 4

[StrangerCoug]

Uh... Nachomamma8, as good a point as that is, is what you're doing OK? I'd hate to be in LYLO because somebody didn't read the rules...

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote

What do you mean?

[StrangerCoug]

It's generally accepted that you cannot talk about ongoing games.