Mini 1085: Higurashi Mafia Game Over!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

@ Rena:

Please Prod CityofA and Tumenessence.

[Rena]

CityofAs and Tume have been prodded. Still working on Zazie replacement.

[Drench]

just in case people miss it

DO NOT HAMMER TUME YET DAMMIT

[Drench]

also, while we wait for people to stop being lazy fucks

enjoy! (warning: slight umineko chiru spoilerz) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBR932Q5dwE

[tumescence]

I am Furude Rika. My special power is that I can talk with Hanyuu in a quicktopic. I'll out Hanyuu's identity if you want.

Can you explain to me what you were waiting for yesterday when hammering UK?

I waited in case anybody wanted to give out FoSes and arguments and so forth.


I

MHO, you were waiting for instructions from UK. You wanted to extend the day, so that you'd have a chance at getting info on what to do today.

What kind of info would I want from UK? Be very explicit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Um, If you were scum, you would want to get info on how to proceed with your next move, before she dies.

Um... I believe that claim more than you would imagine actually...

Unvote

Can anyone confirm this claim? Also, are you mason or neighbors?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

In other words, if someone wants to come out and claim Furude Hanyuu, that'd be great.

Cause even if they are neighbors, and not masons, I'm seeing very little chance that one is scum without the other.

And with 2 scum dead, the chance that they are both scum is nil IMO.

So... I want to see a claim, so we can confirm you, and move on to a new target.

[SpyreX]

I'm Hanyuu (I assume since I'm the one that can talk to Tum in the neighbor chat she says nothing in).

Trust me, this is fine.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Hauuu Auuuu~

Neighbors who want to lynch eachother? :S

With no more than 1 scum left?

I have SERIOUS doubts about the scum coming out of a Rika/Hanyuu neighborhood (which I called BTW ;P)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OK, done with DnD, and there's virtually no chance I'm surviving this day.

I am Mion Sonozaki, mafia tracker.

Now why would I claim scum?

Because Lady LambdaDelta is your SK

She's lying about Miyo Takano. To be honest I've had a feeling it was her since yesterday, but her behavior today confirms it. There are other possibilities, but they are unlikely.

Further, I didn't lie about my track results at all. There is someone who uses Enemy Mine. That's why City was pretty fucking wrong.

So, while I may have sounded rehearsed, I still was telling the truth through much of today.

So, what you good townies will do is lynch me after you've done all your talkity shit. Then tomorrow, you are going to lynch Lady LambdaDelta so you don't have to worry about prisoner's dilemma shenanigans.

Also, I applaud you all. The majority of you were willing to do the correct play. Even if I had been town you'd be right to lynch me.

LL, you might as well full claim, since I'm VERY curious about your...information which is quite incorrect.

Unvote, Vote Lady LL

Pointless, but might as well ^-^.

Remember this?

This is PROOF that neither HANYUU OR RIKA can be scum!

Why?

Because UK claimed that Miyo Takano was a mafia member.

She claimed mafia, and

FLIPPED SCUM.

She said she KNEW that Miyo Takano could NOT be SK.

The only way she can confirm this, given her role, is if

MIYO TAKANO IS THE THIRD MAFIA.

Also, just a notice: Okonogi, a USURPER.

Okonogi is the person who worked UNDER Miyo Takano, as head of the Yaminazu.

Thus,

this provides even more conclusive evidence that the last scum must be Miyo Takano.

This is where my Gambit last round pays off. We now know that the 2 confirmed character roles of Hanyuu and Rika (Tume and Spyrex)

CANNOT BE MAFIA.

In other words, they are

CONFIRMED TOWN.

Everyone voting Tume

UNVOTE NOW, OR BE LYNCHED.

This level of reasoning is possible for me.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So, how does everyone feel about that?

2 cleared town, in a game with 6 players remaining?

Pretty good odds... even if there is an SK remaining...

Which reminds me. While Spyrex and Tume are now confirmed as not mafia,

that does not mean one of them isn't SK.

To be more precise, Tume or SpyreX may still be third party alligned, but it is impossible that they are mafia.

I hope this leads into more... relevant discussion.

[Drench]

i'll be more coherent later, but i just woke up to inception's Time blaring through the speakers so i'm a bit disoriented with awesome

OK, done with DnD, and there's virtually no chance I'm surviving this day.

I am Mion Sonozaki, mafia tracker.

Now why would I claim scum?

Because Lady LambdaDelta is your SK

She's lying about Miyo Takano. To be honest I've had a feeling it was her since yesterday, but her behavior today confirms it. There are other possibilities, but they are unlikely.

Further, I didn't lie about my track results at all. There is someone who uses Enemy Mine. That's why City was pretty fucking wrong.

So, while I may have sounded rehearsed, I still was telling the truth through much of today.

So, what you good townies will do is lynch me after you've done all your talkity shit. Then tomorrow, you are going to lynch Lady LambdaDelta so you don't have to worry about prisoner's dilemma shenanigans.

Also, I applaud you all. The majority of you were willing to do the correct play. Even if I had been town you'd be right to lynch me.

LL, you might as well full claim, since I'm VERY curious about your...information which is quite incorrect.

Unvote, Vote Lady LL

Pointless, but might as well ^-^.

Remember this?

This is PROOF that neither HANYUU OR RIKA can be scum!

Why?

Because UK claimed that Miyo Takano was a mafia member.

She claimed mafia, and

FLIPPED SCUM.

She said she KNEW that Miyo Takano could NOT be SK.

The only way she can confirm this, given her role, is if

MIYO TAKANO IS THE THIRD MAFIA.

Also, just a notice: Okonogi, a USURPER.

Okonogi is the person who worked UNDER Miyo Takano, as head of the Yaminazu.

Thus,

this provides even more conclusive evidence that the last scum must be Miyo Takano.

This is where my Gambit last round pays off. We now know that the 2 confirmed character roles of Hanyuu and Rika (Tume and Spyrex)

CANNOT BE MAFIA.

In other words, they are

CONFIRMED TOWN.

Everyone voting Tume

UNVOTE NOW, OR BE LYNCHED.

This level of reasoning is possible for me.

Just don't reference UK's posts when making cases on me. She, by self admission, said that she was conceling things because "that's what scum does". Co-incidentally, scum lies too... It's a null point to use her arguments, so I'd like to avoid them.

so it's alright for you to make cases based on UK's posts, but not me? is that good for you?

kihihihihi . . .

i file for logic error

!

vote stays due to this, i'm going to eat now and i'll be back

[Rena]

Nikanor replaces ZazieR affective immediately. Yay!

[Lady Lambdadelta]

That is possibly the WORST argument I have ever seen?

Drench, UK tunneled me into the ground after claiming scum. That's a null read.

What is not a null read is that she claimed Miyo Takano was a mafia, and not SK

That's FACT.

Sorry, but this combined with all the other shit you've done is too much.

Vote: Drench

This is the play for today guys. I just confirmed 2 town, and he shot it down with a elusive and idiotic argument.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, I know as scum it must be hard for you to allow 2 confirmed townies.

Seriously, Drench has a lot of scum points.

Buddying with UK.
Focusing today's lynch to ONLY include me or tume (I'll quote the post if you want it)
Trying to discredit two confirmed town (well, except sk, but you know what I mean)
Intentionally blurring the difference between UK's case on me and UK's scum claim. One is a basis of fact, the other was a smear campaign. One is red truth, the other is blue.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, <3 Nikanor ^_^

[Drench]

i fucking love english muffins

i didn't shoot it down. did you read? because if you had, you would've noticed that i haven't actually said anything about it yet. let me make this perfectly clear: i'm not shooting it down. i'm not 'discrediting' them, i'm not 'invalidating' them, i'm just taking issue with what looks to me like a contradiction in your rhetoric. if you want me to say it explicitly, i will. i have absolutely no problem with tume and spyrex being confirmed for not-mafia. common sense dictates it.

oh, look at that, i allowed it. it was so hard for me, you should feel my fucking pain. oh, and by the waay, that 'lots of scum points' thing is a huge backflip from your comment less than 48 hours ago saying (and i quote)

But as of now, you're still my top town read (mainly based on the fact no one else posts xD), so I'll let it slide.

and yes, i recognize it's mainly because everyone else was being a lurking lurker who lurks, but the fact remains that half of your listed 'scum points' (and i take issue on them, which i'll elaborate on) occurred before that point. and now, because i've attacked you more coherently (oh no!), i'm your top scum read? come on, lambda, where's the logic in that?

you may declare this as omgus, but to be honest, i still believe the lynch is you or tume. obviously tume is not an option any more, and you're officially the scummiest person in this game, so i have absolutely no problem in voting you.

Vote: Lambda Dearest

This is the play for today guys.

and i'm not finished. look out for zazie-style postings

also OMGNIK<3

also where is CoA

[Drench]

Buddying with UK.

i like how your entire basis for this is me offering a possible theory based on her points
i also like how it completely ignores the fact that i was leaning uk-scum back when she was still pretending to be shion

Focusing today's lynch to ONLY include me or tume (I'll quote the post if you want it)

is there a suitable case for spyrex!scum?
is there a suitable case for cityofas!scum?
is there a suitable case for zazie!scum?
could the murder have occured before 1am?
does natsuhi have an alibi?

Trying to discredit two confirmed town (well, except sk, but you know what I mean)

as stated, i never discredited them at all. quite the reverse, now, in fact

Intentionally blurring the difference between UK's case on me and UK's scum claim. One is a basis of fact, the other was a smear campaign. One is red truth, the other is blue.

please point out where the difference is. i see you using information from uk. i see me using information from uk. true, it's a simplification, but i see no difference. if you could point it out

so, what was that about the scum points...?

[Drench]

Drench, UK tunneled me into the ground after claiming scum. That's a null read.

What is not a null read is that she claimed Miyo Takano was a mafia, and not SK

Just don't reference UK's posts when making cases on me. She, by self admission, said that she was conceling things because "that's what scum does". Co-incidentally, scum lies too...

It's a null point to use her arguments, so I'd like to avoid them.

a blatant contradiction. another notch on the scumometer

Sorry, but this combined with all the other shit you've done is too much.

which i've already pointed out is, for the vast majority, baseless...

so, um. speaks for itself, don't it?

zazie-style is so much fun, omg

[Lady Lambdadelta]

First off: You're not dodging the fact that this is OMGUS by saying "you may call this OMGUS". Not gonna fly. I may call it that because it is.

Secondly: who's doing backflips? We're you the one who just discredited my Tume/SpyreX/Takano post, and kept your vote on tume for that? So what's with this "Because Tume is no longer a possibility" shit? You're agreeing with me that Tume is obv town now?

Contradiction, Drenchy. <3

Thirdly, where we you leaning UK scum? When you threw out a bunch of percentages, but NEVER VOTED FOR HER? Yah, that's a ringing endorsment of your "town play".

Fourthly, you could easily have made a case for CityofA scum. You simply chose to focus on the two easiest targets (as set up by TL and UK the previous day).

Fifthly, What is this "I never discredited them" shit? You were just saying "my vote is staying on Tume!" the SECOND I take away my "town read" on you, you immediatly attack me, instead of sticking to your original plan. Scum.

Sixthly, the difference between the citations on UK's posts are as follows: your citation was her speculating, and slandering.
My citation was a red truth claim. Fact. So unless she lied (in which case your Lambda=SK case is dead in the water), This is a fact. Not a theory.

Think that answers everything Drenchy-kun <3

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, I like how your whole case is now based upon my "contradiction".

That's all it CAN be based upon, because that's what changed your vote from Tume right?

It wasn't anything to do with MY vote, right?

Also, the more you argue my guilt, you have to accept that my theory on SpyreX and Tume is correct. Which in turn invalidates your claim about it being contradictory.

Choose a path Drench. You're playing both. Either one is a BAD END anyway. Because you are scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Lady λδ*

DON'T BE GOIN HELPIN TAKANO AND COME BACK EXPECTIN SYMPATHY YA LITTLE

*haha bilingual bonus

Also, (this is a joke) I want you to be scum so I can see the sweet irony in this opening post/rvs by you ^_^

[Drench]

sixthly? oh hey chrome says it's a word, cool

First off: You're not dodging the fact that this is OMGUS by saying "you may call this OMGUS". Not gonna fly. I may call it that because it is.

and it may be, but i'm backing it up, so really..

Secondly: who's doing backflips? We're you the one who just discredited my Tume/SpyreX/Takano post, and kept your vote on tume for that? So what's with this "Because Tume is no longer a possibility" shit? You're agreeing with me that Tume is obv town now?

Contradiction, Drenchy. <3

i kept my vote on tume because (and i quote) 'of that', which was referring to your UK!contradiction. not because i thought he was scum. learn to read. no contradiction, Lambdy <3

Thirdly, where we you leaning UK scum? When you threw out a bunch of percentages, but NEVER VOTED FOR HER? Yah, that's a ringing endorsment of your "town play".

OH NO HE LIKES TO BE SURE OF HIS VOTES WHAT A HORRIBLE, INDECENT PERSON I BET HE EATS KITTENS THE FUCKER

Fourthly, you could easily have made a case for CityofA scum. You simply chose to focus on the two easiest targets (as set up by TL and UK the previous day).

i don't see a case on CoA. please, point it out and please, point out why you're not following it

Fifthly, What is this "I never discredited them" shit? You were just saying "my vote is staying on Tume!" the SECOND I take away my "town read" on you, you immediatly attack me, instead of sticking to your original plan. Scum.

didn't you speak about this already? i've already addressed this at point deux

Sixthly, the difference between the citations on UK's posts are as follows: your citation was her speculating, and slandering.
My citation was a red truth claim. Fact. So unless she lied (in which case your Lambda=SK case is dead in the water), This is a fact. Not a theory.

>implying people either tell 100% truth or 100% lies

Think that answers everything Drenchy-kun <3[/quote]

actually, it doesnt. you haven't explained where my buddying is, you haven't explained any other situation which could lead to a lynch other than you/tume (which is now solely you in my view), you've failed to explain the difference between my drawing and your drawing from UK's points, instead resorting to wordplay (budding Beatrice you are), you still haven't explained how i went from the bottom to the top of your scumlist in just 48 hours, the list just never ever ends. also you still haven't given an alibi for natsuhi.

she's sleeping with kinzo, you know, this blue haired girl told me so

soooo, yeah!

P-Edit: AHAHAHA OH WOW
i've based it on much more than that. you even replied to some of those posts, you might remember it. and besides, contradictions (of which there are a few in your case) is nearly always the result of lying. unless, of course, you think lying's good.

and i fully accept your theory on spy/tume being town. fuck, i said that outright in my first fucking post of the zazie-chain. as for the second part of that point, my head's being stupid, so sorry if i'm referencing the wrong stuff here, but i dont see any invalidation. after all, it's common sense that two confirmed linked people are either masons or scum (and please, correct me if there are other options here), and (and i would hope you'd answer this truthfully) tell me, is a 4p mafia faction in a game of 12 sensible? your 'theory' was easily derived from any number of things, and it doesn't change the fact that you're drawing from the exact same place you've forbidden both others and yourself from going near.

<scum>

P-P-Edit: that would be so beautiful, if only

[Drench]

also tell your brother to get the fuck on tengaged and read my mail, it's bleedin' tiresome just watching that time counter tick up

unless he's sleeping or something, but

[Drench]

also, this really needs more popcorn throwing.