DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!

[Jed Cooper]

Btw is it worth it to double-nuke people, so that even if they are in defensive mode, they still die? I feel like it is, since it would halve the number of nukes, and ensure that all nuked people died.

This is an interesting point. It takes 72 hours for a nuke to hit so if there was time, there wouldn't be a necessity for a a second nuke volunteer until after the nuke failed to hit.

Also, I think that the defensive mode would kick in BEFORE 72 hours as well...

MOD: is this true? And if so about how long before the nuke is knockled out of the sky?

[Jed Cooper]

Toogeloo basically ignored my post. Here is my question again:

We could have half a dozen people with nukes every day in DEFCON 1. Do we restrict people on their nuke use?

You said this. What is your own answer to this question? Do you have any proposals?
A third, related question: What is your opinion of the

pages

of discussion about this issue already?
Your question is really quite odd.

Wasn't my intention to ignore your question, I figured yours was just as rhetorical as you thought mine was.

I think I've kind of bled my opinions on the matter though.

People who want to "appear" pro-town are going to state they have a nuke

I don't like this at all because it helps scum figure out who has the power roles. Nuke claiming (1) should be done once the town has two lynch candidates; one for the lynch one for the nuke.

[Jed Cooper]

Btw I would like to state a theory. All of this hype about nukes flying could easily be a ploy by scum to get the town NOT to choose certain power roles up high in their list (so that they choose like fallout shelter or just silo it) while they prioritize the power roles they have decided they want.

There have actually been a couple of suggestions from certain players about this as well -- that people should choose fallout shelter or nuke etc.

[gandalf5166]

LOLOL

You're still keeping up that idea of second lynches? You realize that if we DID decide to use them like that, we could just have an infinite number of lynches, right? So why stop at two?

[Jed Cooper]

Btw, I got the full DEFCON game. Creepy music.

[Jed Cooper]

LOLOL

You're still keeping up that idea of second lynches? You realize that if we DID decide to use them like that, we could just have an infinite number of lynches, right? So why stop at two?

You are correct. Just one at a time until the deadline hits.

[Internet Stranger]

Btw I would like to state a theory. All of this hype about nukes flying could easily be a ploy by scum to get the town NOT to choose certain power roles up high in their list (so that they choose like fallout shelter or just silo it) while they prioritize the power roles they have decided they want.

There have actually been a couple of suggestions from certain players about this as well -- that people should choose fallout shelter or nuke etc.

What if this was a double reverse backwards pseudo psychology by the JedScum to trick us into doing what his communist komrades wants us to do?

I dont trust these damn communists. As a proud American, I refuse to fall for such petty trickery.

[Toogeloo]

Toogeloo basically ignored my post. Here is my question again:

We could have half a dozen people with nukes every day in DEFCON 1. Do we restrict people on their nuke use?

You said this. What is your own answer to this question? Do you have any proposals?
A third, related question: What is your opinion of the

pages

of discussion about this issue already?
Your question is really quite odd.

Wasn't my intention to ignore your question, I figured yours was just as rhetorical as you thought mine was.

I think I've kind of bled my opinions on the matter though.

People who want to "appear" pro-town are going to state they have a nuke

I don't like this at all because it helps scum figure out who has the power roles. Nuke claiming (1) should be done once the town has two lynch candidates; one for the lynch one for the nuke.

That's not what I was saying. I was saying that people who tell town they have a nuke to use (as in discuss for a secondary kill for the day) are doing it to appear pro-town... as opposed to those who don't say anything and just nuke.

Also, the only two abilities that prevent Nuclear attack are the Battleship and the Fallout Shelter. Of the two, the Battleship only prevents the first nuke. So what you would be asking to do when you double nuke is to have the ability to either A) nuke through a Doc protection, or B) determine if the player is the Fallout Shelter.

[gandalf5166]

Toog, did you read the Silo PM? You should. There's the option to set your silo to ICBM mode, which stops the first nuke.

[Toogeloo]

meh, I forgot about ICBM as well.

[Jed Cooper]

Toog, did you read the

Silo PM

? You should. There's the option to set your silo to ICBM mode, which stops the first nuke.

What the heck is a Silo PM??

[Jed Cooper]

Anti-Ballistic missile mode:

The ABM missile systems are

counter-ICBM

rockets designed to shoot down incoming enemy warheads. {The first nuclear launch made against you each day will fail.}

[gandalf5166]

As in, the Silo Role PM?

[Jed Cooper]

Btw I would like to state a theory. All of this hype about nukes flying could easily be a ploy by scum to get the town NOT to choose certain power roles up high in their list (so that they choose like fallout shelter or just silo it) while they prioritize the power roles they have decided they want.

There have actually been a couple of suggestions from certain players about this as well -- that people should choose fallout shelter or nuke etc.

What if this was a double reverse backwards pseudo psychology by the JedScum to trick us into doing what his communist komrades wants us to do?

I dont trust these damn communists. As a proud American, I refuse to fall for such petty trickery.

Now that I've been able to relax a bit, I'm starting to really laugh at your posts now. I hope the real IS comes out at some point too (similar to Fate).

[Jed Cooper]

As in, the Silo Role PM?

Oh aha. Good point. It is actually the Role PM there.

[Fate]

IS is similar to me, eh?

Fate and Spy could be my buddies. ;D

SCREAMING

DESTRUCTION

CLANNNNN

[Fate]

I got more than that, RedCoyote.

Town:(like, forealz)
Dana
bobsnox (played with him on another site)
AV

those are like 100%/

Gandalf is like 90% scum, SP is pretty high up there. Fate I can't read for shit, but all his reads are off at best.
Oh and Toog might be scum, but it's like 50 50

*NUKE*

[Percy]

Just noticed something:

{On the first day of DEFCON 1, you may launch a nuclear weapon without revealing yourself as the aggressor. For the rest of the game, you may launch nuclear weapons as though you possessed a missile silo in nuclear launch mode.}

{You may launch nuclear weapons as though you possessed a missile silo in nuclear launch mode without revealing yourself as the aggressor.}

I didn't notice the change. Sub is much easier to catch now.

Btw is it worth it to double-nuke people, so that even if they are in defensive mode, they still die? I feel like it is, since it would halve the number of nukes, and ensure that all nuked people died.

This plan is crazy.
chesskid has been "I want to be Batman and nuke scumz". Now he's advocating organising the town to make sure every nuke is a double nuke. Which is it?
I'm going to go with that you think planning ahead is a good idea, assigning two players to nuke and using these nukes like a lynch - that is, that you forgot everything you said before.
Even then, why shoot two nukes when one will do? Shoot one, then shoot another if the first one fails.


Toogeloo tells us to leave nuking to whoever and not to hype the nuke, while essentially giving people permission to nuke for pressure. It's obvious to me that nuking like crazy will create chaos and will probably cost the town the game. Restricting people on their nuke use makes a lot of sense.


Come on DEFCON 3!

[Fate]

Much harder to catch*

Also I want to know who was calling Percy scum and why, because I vaguely recall one person saying it then a few more "sheeping" that suspicion.

Dere be scums in DERE

[chesskid3]

nonono like if A nukes B and C also thinks B is scum C should just go ahead and doublenuke.
Not planed though

[Fate]

wat

[chesskid3]

like
if I nuke you
And Toog also thinks you need to be nuked
he should also nuke you
to make sure you die and not have to worry about day ending before 72hours are up with a silo in defensive mode

[Jed Cooper]

IS is similar to me, eh?

Fate and Spy could be my buddies. ;D

SCREAMING

DESTRUCTION

CLANNNNN

I didn't say that. IS's contributions have been full of humour and apart from that virtually contentless. You on the other hand provide strong content with your humour.

[Fate]

I know what you were saying.

How the fuck is that a logical thought though? All I see is "HERP DERP POOR JUSTIFICATION FOR WASTING TWO NUKES"

And no you can't play the hurrrrr durrrr dumdum CARD because Percy LITERALLY JUST FUCKING CLARIFIED:

Even then, why shoot two nukes when one will do? Shoot one, then shoot another if the first one fails.

Even then, why shoot two nukes when one will do? Shoot one, then shoot another if the first one fails.

Even then, why shoot two nukes when one will do? Shoot one, then shoot another if the first one fails.

Even then, why shoot two nukes when one will do? Shoot one, then shoot another if the first one fails.

Even then, why shoot two nukes when one will do? Shoot one, then shoot another if the first one fails.

Day ending? Why the FUCK would we end the day before the nuke hits? Anyone trying to lynch while death is in the air is a fuckin moron or scum.

[Jed Cooper]

like
if I nuke you
And Toog also thinks you need to be nuked
he should also nuke you
to make sure you die and not have to worry about day ending before 72hours are up with a silo in defensive mode

This is so anti-town I can't stand it.