DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!
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Bunnylover Mafia Scum
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I really hate it when I am in games with Fate ._.
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gandalf5166 Jack of All Trades
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Jed Cooper Goon
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We clearly have:
The Earps: Law & Order (controlled nuking, vig claim)
The Clantons: Lawlessness (uncontrolled nuking, unclaimed vig)
The Earps know what has to be done.When youQuote CliphangNUKEa man, you'd better look at 'em!-
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Internet Stranger Mafia Scum
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Right, because the Earps could never be communist scum.
Seriously Jed, are you just begging to be nuked? Do you really want to know what a hot flaming all American nuclear mudhole stompin' is like?ShowElvis_Knits: "IS you are a sexist schmuck, for real"
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Jed Cooper Goon
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We'll see you in the street at high Defcon 3.When youQuote CliphangNUKEa man, you'd better look at 'em!-
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Baby Spice Mafia Scum
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Nuke whoever youwant, just be willing to justify yourself or recall.
Which brings me to:
^^ Anyone doing that should be made to glow in the dark.Nuke: Someone
V/LA 3 days
Launch yes, but don't launch and disapeer.I don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
Sometimes, when I say "I'm okay", I want someone to give me a hug and say, "Let's watch Doctor Who"-
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Bunnylover Mafia Scum
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I agree with this.Baby Spice wrote:Nuke whoever youwant, just be willing to justify yourself or recall.
Which brings me to:
^^ Anyone doing that should be made to glow in the dark.Nuke: Someone
V/LA 3 days
Launch yes, but don't launch and disapeer.
Don't really care who or what you nuke, as long as you can justify why you did it-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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I am mildly curious if ALL roles will be in the game.
For example, if no one takes Fail Safe, will we have 11 Silos, or does Fail Safe automatically get dispersed? Silos say "unlimited number" which leads me to believe that it's entirely possible for there to be 20 Silos and no Power roles if we had it that way (obv not gonna happen).
(You will never receive a troop deployment if you did not request one. So, it's possible for there to be 20 silos and no other abilities. --AGM)Last edited by AlmasterGM on Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:15 am, edited 1 time in total.-
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Jed Cooper Goon
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The Clantons believe in the survival of the fittest. The problem is thateveryonebelievestheyare the fittest and so justification is easy -- too easy to serve the interests of the town. The most evil elements within the Clantons are able to do their will under the cloak of "survival of the fittest" while becoming stronger with each passing day.
In a town run by the Earps, Law & Order channels the resources of the town as a unified whole to defeat the Clantons. Siding with the Earps is the best way to identify eliminate the most evil elements within the Clantons and scatter the rest, resulting in a peaceful victory for the town.
(pssst, this means town sanctioned nuking and sub-claim as town directed vig).When youQuote CliphangNUKEa man, you'd better look at 'em!-
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Internet Stranger Mafia Scum
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ahh I see, so who gets to be an Earp and who gets to be the sheep?
Kinda hard to corral your proletariat komrades when they have nukes, isnt it? So naturally you want to disarm them by putting arbitrary restrictions on when and on whom they can nuke.
Screw you buddy. As an American, I will not have my sovereignty challenged by filthy communist scum.
Hey Jed, I highly suggest you go for that Fallout Shelter, just sayin'ShowElvis_Knits: "IS you are a sexist schmuck, for real"
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SocioPath Mafia Scum
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Kitoari Goon
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gandalf5166 Jack of All Trades
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Kitoari Goon
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I would much rather lynch chesskid D1 than gandalf.gandalf5166 wrote:
SP, you haven't even played with me since Alphabet Mafia. >.>SocioPath wrote:
This I can get behind.Jack wrote:Let's lynch gandalf day 1.Interested in doing a Dept. Heaven Large Theme. If you're interested in ironing it out, drop me a line.-
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Cool.Kitoari wrote:
I would much rather lynch chesskid D1 than gandalf.gandalf5166 wrote:
SP, you haven't even played with me since Alphabet Mafia. >.>SocioPath wrote:
This I can get behind.Jack wrote:Let's lynch gandalf day 1.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Bunnylover Mafia Scum
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SocioPath Mafia Scum
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Which means I have no idea what I am talking about.gandalf5166 wrote:
SP, you haven't even played with me since Alphabet Mafia. >.>SocioPath wrote:
This I can get behind.Jack wrote:Let's lynch gandalf day 1.
Which means I am incapable of knowing anything about you otherwise from games I've played directly involving you.
Which means that your play in this game thus far has been stellar and cannot be called out upon.Aut Tace Aut Meliora Loquere Silentio.-
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This thread makes me think so much of America. It's all bipartisanship in here. The next step would be to find a common ground between the two ideas of Law vs. Chaos.
Law people want to regulate nukes so they can be used smartly. Therefore, prefers to ban all people from using nukes unless sanctioned by the rest of Town.
I don't seeanyargument from the Chaos side aside from the usual egotistic 'DERP I WANT DAYKILLZ', 'NO U I NO CLAIM SUB IF I GETZ BCUZ I WIN.', 'DIS MORE FUN BLOOD FOR BLOOD GOD'.
Don't give in to these ORKs. These orks are a bunch of brutes with no order and they regularly fight amongst themselves.
Fighting FOR THE EMPEROR is better. You get to be main characters, for one. AND you get to wield CHAINSWORDS. CHAIN-SWORDS. It's A FUCKING SWORD THAT IS ALSO A CHAINSAW.
Join the IMPERIUM now! Just get your nuke sanctioned by the will of the Emperor and we can GUARANTEE you'll be nuking scum soon.Call me Vas, ;D A little less active than I used to be due to IRL. Hoping to be back up to speed soon-ish!-
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Of course then the nukes risk being influenced by scum. Nukes are out in the open, so it's not like anyone will be able to "getaway" with nuking someone. There are already proper red flags in place to prevent total nuclear warfare. There are both stop measures as well as the Failsafe power. There's no reason why anyone needs to "sanction" nuking, unless, obviously, we are approaching the end of the game.Percy 153 wrote:Unless it's sanctioned by the playerbase, no-one should nuke. If you disagree, then say why, kthx.
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What are you taking about? I'm guiding votes? I was about as broad as I could possibly be short of saying everyone go hog wild. Are you just making all these posts to hear yourself talk? Why do you need five posts in a row?JC 155 wrote:The town should understand each ability and choose the list based on the best strategy for the town and their playstyle as they see it. I don't like how this post is trying to guide votes too specifically and your advice seems to lack overall integrity.
I'm with chesskid and IS here. There's no reason to claim you have a nuclear silo. Percy, I assumed, was thinking further down the line towards the endgame. At that point it obviously becomes much more acceptable to start planning out how kills should go and who has the arsenal to do it. It seems like you're wanting to push it farther with this statement though. Nukes and Vig shots work very differently. We don't necessarily need a massclaim immediately when we hit DEFCON 1.JC 162 wrote:Are you aware that a vig that refuses to be guided by the town is lynchable?
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Do you mean JC's crusading? He's the only one I really see who could be classified as "jumping all over" anyone.Toogeloo 172 wrote:I do love the "scum-hunting" that is going on btw. This is quite possibly the easiest phase to feign town since there is no consequence, and everyone is jumping all over the one person who sticks out like a sore thumb.
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Bingo. Plus town points for this. Like I said above. All nukes are broadcast to everyone. There's no hiding it. Everyone here is perfectly capable of seeing the causality of all nuclear activity, and, thus, should theoretically be able to objectively assess whether or not it is something to be seen as scummy or not.Faraday 182 wrote:It's not hard, judge the person on their actions. So if someone comes out and nukes someone obvtown, saying 'welp thought he was scum hehehehe' isn't gonna make much difference.
If I have a nuke I'll use it as I see fit.
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Alright, gentlemen, let's not go crazy. This is exactly the kind of crap that JC, Percy, and Vas are scared of happening.chesskid 190 wrote:Fate, if you nuke me, I'm nuking you right back. Just a heads up.
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Anything that Fate says that's not in ALL CAPS is probably him lying.JC 204 wrote:And you have to hand it to Fate -- he was smooth as silk in 3P lylo -- he took that win by force.
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Speak for yourself. I enjoyed reading it last game and I enjoy reading it this game. I've got a good beat on many of the players here already. If you think it's useless, why are you posting?Fate 210 wrote:Don't remind me how useless this DEFCON 5 is gameplay wise except for 5 being a sexy odd number and AGM liking his flavor.
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Spyrex is right here. Toogeloo and chesskid, you guys aren't thinking long-term. Even if you just rule someone out for one of the mafia teams, you don't know where the future will take the game. What if the team you ruled out ends up shooting the other mafia team? Then you effectively have a clear player on your hands. Sure, it's not as strong as a full-fledged Cop role, but any piece of information is helpful.Spyrex 223 wrote:I'm fully aware of how it works. Even limited information (that sure as hell has the chance to become total information) is a good thing. A real good thing.
However, if neither of you want this power, by all means, don't put it on your list. I wouldn't go around saying that no American should take it though.
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Do you think this means that they are participating more in the game thread? Eh? That was a big idea in the last game.Jack 230 wrote:Scum is chatting in their qt about what to take and is less bored than we are.It turned out to be a red herring though.
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Can you blame him? I agree with you and I agree with Spyrex about this Toogeloo/chesskid/dana thing, but you feel the need to beat the dead horse all day and all night with... I guess you have 40-50 posts at this point? For someone who sees this all as "useless", you sure aren't acting like it.Fate 253 wrote:What a HORRIBLE summary of what is happening with me and chess.
I don't even know what to make of that last paragraph it reads forced as fucking hell with the parantheses and all this boss nonesense
If you stopped posting right here and let all the crazy things that everyone else say roll off your back, I'd defend you... but you just can't help it, can you?
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chesskid did though.Toogeloo 276 wrote:For the last time, I am not stating "don't put cop on your list."
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Now that I'm thinking about it, why did you come at me for "guiding votes" and not Percy given that this is your point of view?JC 280 wrote:Beware of just following anyone's list. We all need to really think for ourselves ultimately before looking at anyone else's list.
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Clearly the middle ground is exactly what me and AV are talking about. Nukes are to be used independently up unto the point where it no longer becomes feasible for the town not the mass claim. Once we've reached the point where we need to lay all the cards on the table, then we'll benefit much more for submitting all nuclear decisions to the greater community, because we can map out with a greater probability hitting potential scum.Vas 321 wrote:This thread makes me think so much of America. It's all bipartisanship in here. The next step would be to find a common ground between the two ideas of Law vs. Chaos.-
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I like how that your sentiment really shows through starting with "bipartisan" and going right to :giantsmugulon:
See, I'll make it real simple. I trust myself right now to take a shot.
As time progresses, maybe I'll take some input from a few others. Input. Never the
What I wont do, now, or ever, is let my shot be guided by a load of miscreants.
Or, to put it differently:
The will of the people produces backwards lists. That go into a bureaucratic mess where 6 of the voices sure as hell want to gerrymander anything useful.
The WRATH OF THE BLOOD GOD produces bodies.
I know what team I'm on, every time.
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