DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!
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AurorusVox He/HimJack of All TradesHe/Him
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Well I'd like to know if there are any ALTS from the first DEFCON game. I would ask that they reveal themselves now, taking my admission as a token of good will.When youQuote CliphangNUKEa man, you'd better look at 'em!-
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VasudeVa Mafia Scum
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chesskid3 Survivor
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Jedidiah?VasudeVa wrote:It's weird having a dude named Jed on the game. >.>. Part of my IRL name is Jed.
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Dude imagine the power of having the submarine in this gameKatsuki wrote:It helps that there's no shortage of nukes.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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chesskid3 Survivor
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But you could be the town hero and off scum every day, and then bask in the glory postgamegandalf5166 wrote:
Only for SCUM.chesskid3 wrote:
Dude imagine the power of having the submarine in this gameKatsuki wrote:It helps that there's no shortage of nukes.
If you're wondering, I feel a lot better this morning after some heavy meds and heavy rest.
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Faraday ...should I be here?
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Well, you can't launch Nukes until we are in DEFCON 1... I think. But yeah, there are quite a few roles we want to make sure town get.
Americans will really want to prioritze the following (in my opinion):
-Aircraft Carrieris huge for Americans if we can get it. It's essentially ROLEBLOCKER, and would be a huge boon to us.
-Battleshipis the DOCTOR of the game, and it stops nukes, so keeping it out of scum hands would be nice.
-Submarinewould allow them to nuke any one without fear of exposing themselves once we get to DEFCON 1.
-Fallout Shelterwould make it so the only kills they worry about are the other scum team night kills, meaning Americans can't nuke them.
These aren't as necessary, but can still be a detriment in scum hands. The problem with these is the limited use Americans get from them:
-Fighteris ROLE COP, it would give them an easier time identifying key power roles.
-Espionageis essentially COP. If scum gets the role, then they can just look for the opposing faction members with it.
-Radaris like TRACKER, but Scum Night Kills are untrackable, so it's only use is to detect people with Offensive Troops.
-Fail Safeis similar to BOMB, and scum would rarely like to trade 1 for 1, but a kill is still a kill. Americans are more likely to lose two town members I would bet.
These are powers Americans will really only make use of, and scum will likely not put them as priority at all, so we should probably make them low priority as well:
-Eavesdropwould only be used by scum to hear the other scum team or prevent a player from hearing their day talk.
-Air Basewould only stop a kill from the opposing scum team.
This is just how I interpret the abilities, so if anyone disagrees with me, feel free to state your opinions.-
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Toogeloo Jack of All Trades
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Scanning roles are bad for Americans unless you have a read on specific alignments, or plan to try and trap a player based on your scan.
-Fighter only tells you if the player has a Silo, Offense, or Defense. Players can be of any alignment and have these, so you would need to hold your info in hopes that you catch a player lying. But even then, that can backfire (like if the American with Submarine or Aircraft Carrier claims Silo to avoid outing himself). Taking this would be simply to deny scum from using it.
-Radar is similar to Fighter in that it doesn't give you alignment if you track someone to another player, and worse still, you cannot track the scum night kills, so you only get to identify (possibly trap) offensive power roles. Taking this would be simply to deny Scum from using it.
-Espionage is the only strong scanner of the 3 scanning roles in the game in my opinion. The problem for Americans using it is the "choose a faction" rule. We could target scum and scan them, but choose the wrong faction and get the scan wrong all together. Scum would only ever use it to scan for the opposite scum faction, so I don't think it would be high priority for them either. An American could double scan (2 night actions) the same player to know for sure their alignment though...-
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Internet Stranger Mafia Scum
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Leave nothing to the foreign scum. We are all Americans, and we should have it all.ShowElvis_Knits: "IS you are a sexist schmuck, for real"
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Internet Stranger: Problem with that is that you need to identify in-thread who is going to pick what in order to minisimise the risk of a bunch of townies going for the same role and allowing scum to pick certain less desirable ones up.
Percy used Eavesdrop very well last game, despite the QTs being encoded, but it brought up so much WIFOM that it was very hard to use reliably. I still think it'd be a useful ability for the town, but it wasn't as hardcore as I thought it would be.THE LEMON LIVES! - Cabd-
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...and if you identify in thread then scum know who to kill. Don't you darePapa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Treat it as a PYP kind of thing, I don't think it'll be a big problem, plus all the vanillas get NUKES LOL.Papa Zito - "Your signature has been blanked...we remove signatures at a users request if said signature references them, or if it quotes from a thread in the Speakeasy, which is not allowed without permission of the poster"-
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Im here to nuke me and lynch some Soviet/Chinese scumbags.
I will use every tool I get at my disposal to do so. So if I manage to get me some fancy toys to do so, all the better.
I dont need any help from some yokels in Arkansas, California hippies or them New Jersey guidos to kill'em them commies. I will do it by myself if I must.
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