Mini 1075 - Fishtown Mafia

[Corvuus]

err, i'm pst and this is est time. I'll hammer myself at 3-4 pm pst time.

And not that anyone cares, but I'll claim jester!

C

[DavidParker]

I'd rather a singer lynch now.

Vote: Singersigner

[havingfitz]

@singer...I had/have a case on Emp which is not based entirely on his massclaim push and I still suspect him. The fact no one else appears to caused my move to my number two (you) and in all honestly...I've been too bogged down in RL and other games to go remind myself why you were my 2nd suspect. The Lrdwhyte post is more based on frustration at his play.

I would much rather the mod just replace him but if Lrd continues to post just enough to not get replaced...I think he definitely needs to go.

Call that a policy lynch if you like but he needs to go IMO.

@corvuus...if you are town (as I have thought most of the game...at least when I was more caught up) than any thoughts you have on others would be of value.

If you aren't going to post anymore thoughts on players...why not self hammer? If you are town and there are any scum not on your wagon...they have no incentive to vote/hammer you since you appear doomed regardless of a hammer vote. In this game set-up your self hammer would allow town to focus on fewer suspects from your wagon if you flip town.

Preview edit...Ohhhhhhhhhh-kaaaay, I see DP is voting singer now. That takes away the hammer option on corvuus and puts us closer to a singer lynch or a no lynch depending on what singer and corvuus do with their votes (since it's focking obv Lrd is not going to be of any use!!!). Maybe the lynch is not set in stone. Whatever the case...I do not want another no lynch...I think that would really take the wind out of the game and we need some lynch wagons to help figure sh;t out.

[Empking]

I agree with the general sentiments that we need a lynch. I also think strongly that that lynch should be on Cor. So, Singer; vote Corv.

[Empking]

Actually,

HF: Want to jump to Lrd?Better day 2 than day 3.

[havingfitz]

Actually,

HF: Want to jump to Lrd?Better day 2 than day 3.

Seeing as we are still on D1...what's your point? And since my main gripe on him is lurking I would rather just see him replaced.

BTW mod...Lrd is due another prod.

<replace replace replace him>

[havingfitz]

So right now we are in a no lynch situation. A corv vote on singer eliminates her, or a singer vote on corv eliminates him. Both occurances still results in a no lynch. Lrd the missing wildcard...or there could still be a tactical unvote.

[Fishythefish]

Day 2, Votecount 11

Corvuus (4) - Empking, Scott Brosius, Rhinox, Nocmen
singersigner (4) - neko2086, Antihero, havingfitz, DavidParker

Not Voting (3) - Lrdwhyt, singersigner, Corvuus

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline in 9.5 hours. There would currently be no lynch at deadline, with 4 of 8 votes for each of Corvuus and singersigner.

Lrdwhyt is being replaced.

[neko2086]

I'm really not pleased with Noc's vote on Corv, since part of it is on the seemingly contradictory posts, which as I tried to point out, are really not that damning if you look at the entire context closely enough.

Rhinox, is it really telling at all to be "flailing" at L-1? Certainly the scum have more to lose, but no good townie should go down without a fight. That fact that he's pushing your lynch and not singer's is rather interesting. It's very unlikely to happen, and if scum have more to lose, I would think they would put their energy behind a singer lynch.

Singer, I'm the one that has the nerve to suggest a VT claiming a PR isn't a viable option. I don't know if things have changed, but the last time I played, there was a fairly strict policy of LAL (lynch all liars) to prevent town from doing such a thing. Lying as town is rarely ever helpful, but if that has been found to not be true, I'd be interested in reading up on it.
As long as I'm addressing you, what hole, exactly, has Corv dug himself into?
I really can't understand why you think DP's play has been so much better. I haven't played with him before, but he's yet to do anything but make baseless claims and throw his vote around with no explanations.
As to your question to me, I said he's an easy target because of the argument that since he wasn't lynched yesterday, he must have been scum with a scumbuddy or two protecting him. Picking up where one left off the day before is sometimes good, yes, but I think the FA wagon was flawed and it was worth visiting other options. It's your vote on that wagon in particular that I don't like, and when asked about it, you couldn't remember why you voted FA.
I think asking Corv to self-hammer is quite odd as well, as Noc and anti pointed out.

Noc, in what way are Corv's recent posts contradictory?

Scott, I had a question for you, you'll find it on p 19. It's not so pressing now, but I'd still like an answer.

DP, why are you voting Singer now? You were happy to put Corv at L-1 and call for a hammer not too long ago. What changed?

[Scott Brosius]

Do you believe 100% that DP didn't realize that deadline was coming? Do you not believe HF's apparent misconception of the deadline lynch rules?

It's tough to determine. Both could be oversights and impossible to tell either way. Normally I would ignore it, however, given DP's apparent genuine remorse for not voting at deadline below

I should have voted FA. THat was my fault. I'm aware people may come in and accuse me of forcing or trying to make a no lynch but I literally did not know the deadline would come upon us that quick. A mistake on my part.

And then unvotes 12 hours before deadline today when we have someone at L-1. Yeah it's the second leading wagon, but this really makes me want to see a Corv flip as it seems the wagon might stall again.

[Scott Brosius]

Sigh, I'll be around for deadline, I guess I'll switch my vote to singer if we really need to avoid no-lynch but that still requires one more vote.

[Nocmen]

Screw it, this works too.

Unvote, Vote: singer

[Fishythefish]

Day 2, Votecount 11

singersigner (5) - neko2086, Antihero, havingfitz, DavidParker, Nocmen
Corvuus (3) - Empking, Scott Brosius, Rhinox

Not Voting (3) - Lrdwhyt, singersigner, Corvuus

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline in just under 2 hours. With 5 of the 8 votes cast, singersigner would be the deadline lynch.

Grump replaces Lrdwhyt. Thanks go to Grump.

[singersigner]

VOTE: Corvuus

[singersigner]

Singer: Why a self hammer as opposed to yourself hammering?

It was simply to see how much saving his life mattered to him. If it got to the point where no one was going to hammer, would he be selfish enough to let us go with a no-lynch and gain nothing from his flip, scum or not. And for the record, I don't like the whole AtE he's throwing in there. "When I flip town..." It doesn't help anyone. I'd rather just know the information he'd like us to use to our advantage if he flips town, since if he flips scum, we're obviously on our own for that one.

Neko, sorry, that was my bad. I should've written it down, but yeah, if you really wanted to play that way, then you'd be voting for DP right now, not me.

DP, you should switch your vote back.

[singersigner]

Singer: I have no idea what to say to you since you are obviously thinking of a different player. Neko asked you to claim when he said that #5 should never be considered. Not me. So I will note that your comment and point is opportunistic since I can't see how you would mix Neko and me up and I also think it is ironic that you say i have a lot of nerve in saying such a thing (when I didn't) when I think all of you have a lot of nerve in blatantly lying and misrepresentating everything that is in this game and not caring about it.

Sorry!!! That was seriously my bad. But when you say that we're ALL blatantly lying and misrepresenting

everything

in this game, I really don't know what you mean. It would behoove you to enlighten ALL of us, I feel, unless you wanted to be called out on a misrep of your own.

In the meantime:
-Antihero, what about that doesn't make sense? Also, yes, why IS Nocman scum?

Oh, so nocman isn't your buddy.

Oh, so why didn't you just answer the legitimate question instead of deflecting it with sarcasm?

[singersigner]

So, I'm really glad havingfitz decided to leave his vote on me even though he didn't remember why he thought I was scummy. That's cool.

Nocman, you didn't have to move your vote unless you really didn't trust that I wasn't going to come back and hammer Corv.

I still don't understand why Corv/FA is getting away with this AGAIN. Pleasepleaseplease promise that you guys will figure it out tomorrow.

[Fishythefish]

Day 2, Final Votecount

singersigner (5) - neko2086, Antihero, havingfitz, DavidParker, Nocmen
Corvuus (4) - Empking, Scott Brosius, Rhinox, singersigner

Not Voting (2) - Grump, Corvuus

With 5 of the 9 votes cast,

singersigner

is lynched. She was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Night 2 begins. Actions due in 72 hours from this post.

[Fishythefish]

Night continues. AH has requested replacement for RL reasons, and a search for his replacement is underway. This will not affect the end of the night.

[Fishythefish]

Night continues to continue. Mr Wright replaces AH. He is awesome.

[Fishythefish]

Day 3 begins, and for the first time you wake to a dead body in your midst.

Scott Brosius, town Jailkeeper

has been killed.

[Scott Brosius]

BAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAHBAH

GO TOWN.

[Corvuus]

going to be VLA from December 11th to December 25th. I'll be around, able to login and post, but it will be short and hopefully concise.

C

[Rhinox]

so..........

{havingfitz, lrdwhyt,

cruelty

antihero, nocmen, DP} from D1 wagon analysis

cross checked with...

{neko2086, Antihero, havingfitz, DavidParker, Nocmen} D2 singer wagon

Why am I not suprised to see nearly all of the same names?

vote: Nocmen

As much as it pains me that corvuus is STILL not dead, I think nocmen surpassed corvuus on my scum list due to a few comments at the end of the day

1) voting corvuus and being ok with his lynch d2 by parroting reasons I gave d1 and weren't enough for nocmen to lynch him then.
2) then switching to the singer mislynch

[Empking]

Vote: Noc

Its pretty clear that he's scum with Cor but he has a vote and Cor doesn't.