Rhinox, the case on Singer for me is partly that for a large part of the game, she has posted fairly consistently, and yet she has contributed very little of substance. Of course, there are three other people for whom the same thing could be said (DP, Anti, Lrd). The difference is that aside from Anti recently, there has been no real interest in pursuing any of these. What bothers me the most about her, though, is precisely her vote on FA. Even though you yourself suspect FA/Corv, did the manner of her vote on him not strike
you
in particular as odd?I want to take a look at this recent exchange. I don't think I've really gotten a good enough read on Rhinox and Corvuus, so this will be a chance to do so. I'll look at the main points recently brought up.
A) FA's reaction to massclaim: I am not getting any impression in FA’s posts that he calls massclaim a scummy thing to propose. He calls it “less-than-popular,” which is entirely accurate. What’s important I think is that you don’t confuse his summaries of the emp case as his own view of emp. He gives a fairly neutral read of emp very consistently.
B) Rhinox maybe has a point here, but I think I see where FA is coming from here. The first post is in response to AD who tells FA to vote Emp because he’s “obvious scum.” FA’s point is that it is rather hasty (and I completely agree) to be so sure that someone is obviously scum so early on that they feel everyone else should feel the same way. This really ties into what I saw as bullying on AD’s part into trying to get everyone to vote emp. FA didn’t like the wifom nature of the arguments, and wouldn’t vote emp just because someone else said it was the obvious thing to do.
He votes DP and says that he seems clearly scummy, which does seem to contradict the above, but the big difference is that he is careful to specify
to me
. C) This is, as far as I can tell, the real driving case behind the Corvuus wagon. It makes sense on the most intuitive sense. Really, there were a few people readily available around the time of lynch. A scenario with FA-scum makes sense with the no-lynch, as that would have been preferable to bussing a scumbuddy. But the problem here is that the argument starts with the assumption that FA is scum for not being hammered, and the reasoning comes afterward. What about the possibility that FA was town and the scum were on the wagon to begin with? I really, really, really dislike singer’s vote on FA, for instance. Emp’s vote on FA isn’t any better. Also, I don’t think it’s so far-fetched to think scum may not have wanted to hammer a townie. Why does everyone assume there are no consequences to that? The FA wagon was pretty ill-conceived, in my opinion, and scum playing carefully may not have wanted to attach themselves to it, knowing FA would flip town.
I’m not convinced Corv is town, but I’m even less convinced he’s scum. I’m leaning more on Corv being town and an easy target.
I’m sticking with singer for the moment, but that may change depending on how Anti responds to recent posts.
