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Post Post #281 (isolation #0) » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:06 pm

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Oh hi guys. I had forgotten that I had replaced into this game. Catching up now.
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Post Post #298 (isolation #1) » Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:21 pm

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Why have you not sorted out this flavour stuff? You are still arguing over it on day two because you'd rather run around confused than know what's going on?
Since you all seem to be so inept that you can't figure out the obvious, I'll spell it out for you:
The setup:

I'm thinking all-vanilla, but it doesn't matter. Every townie starts out as
Cell Locked
, which means that they cannot use actions or have actions used upon them at night. That means that everyone starts out as bulletproof, so regardless of whether or not the mafia have a group kill, nobody died last night because all of the townies were bulletproof. You are told when you are unlocked.
When you are unlocked, you do not change alignments. You stay town. If being unlocked meant you changed alignment, the mod wouldn't have to tell us not to claim being unlocked. All it means is that you can now be killed and otherwise acted upon, and that you can also use any abilities that you may have. It's too bad that nobody can claim any actions because doing so would require claiming locked/unlocked status.
All of the mafia start out unlocked, so they can do stuff at night and have stuff done to them at night. Pretty self-explanatory.
At night, the mafia get to choose one person whose cell they will unlock. That person will not die, but they lose all the benefits of being jailkept every night.
The mafia seem to have two win conditions:
Primary wincon: Unlock every cell. To do this, they unlock one cell every night until there are none but unlocked cells left, at which point the mafia wins.
Secondary wincon: Equal or outnumber the town. After the town loses their ability to lynch mafia, the mafia can nolynch until every cell is unlocked.
lylo occurs when lynching a locked townie would cause there to be but one locked townie remaining. We have to keep a close eye on this, because it is not normal lylo. This formula should be accurate (although I'm no math whiz, so correct me if this is wrong):
L = 9 - t - n, where
L is locked townies remaining,
t is locked townies lynched, and
n is the number of night phases that have passed.
If L = 0, we lose. If L = 2, we are in lylo. Note that we can actually safely lynch an unlocked townie when L = 2 (assuming no mafia kill; I might have to change this formula tomorrow), but I wouldn't bet on that happening because we cannot claim locked/unlocked status.
To explain my formula, I will use today as an example. Now we are at L = 9 - 1 - 1 = 7. If we lynch a locked townie every day, we will have L = 1 on day five. If the mafia have a kill, we'll lose before then, but this is just something to keep in mind.
Anyway, now back to playing mafia.
McG wrote:I'm kind of suspicious about Nikanor. He says he forgot he replaced into this game, but how do we know he wasn't lurking until the hammer so he would not fuck up?
Because you're one to talk about lurking.

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I'd say that I'm also willing to lynch nopoint and McG if it didn't weaken my Hinduragi vote.
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Post Post #300 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 29, 2010 8:21 pm

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Spy, since you're online already, I have a couple of questions for you.
Spy wrote:Ohh, I love when liars lie for no reason.
a) Since when are you a supporter of Lynch All Liars?
b) Why did you not promote setup discussion?
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Post Post #313 (isolation #3) » Sun Oct 31, 2010 5:47 pm

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I believe the issue TheManWhoButtons has with that statement is that nopoint referred to Exe's lynch as a mislynch.

Hinduragi should get in here and post so that it's easier to lynch him.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #4) » Thu Nov 04, 2010 6:58 pm

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Hey Spy you should vote for the Hindu guy. I hear he's really scummy. IT IS ON GOOD AUTHORITY THAT HINDURAGI IS SCUUUUM.

RC, are you scum? I'm just wondering why you're throwing mud on me because what I said "makes too much sense".
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Post Post #343 (isolation #5) » Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:39 pm

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MINE IS THE BEST AUTHORITY, SPY.

Also really close deadline eh?
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Post Post #378 (isolation #6) » Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:00 am

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Unvote. Vote: ReaperCharlie.
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Post Post #392 (isolation #7) » Tue Nov 09, 2010 4:29 pm

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Fate wrote:Kill your way through to existence. Its the only thing you've ever known.
Damned straight.

Lol @ nopoint thinking I'm scum. I'm obviously town from the way RC tried to discredit me.

Vote: Hinduragi.

Still good with this.
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Post Post #412 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:27 pm

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Whooo slooowww.
I don't really want a McG lynch. Is that bad? Can I get a Hindu lynch instead? Pretty please?
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Post Post #416 (isolation #9) » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:25 am

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He meant dead to the vig/sk/whatev.

I can't give you anything to work with on Hinduragi because he hasn't posted anything. He's lurkerscum.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #10) » Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:52 pm

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Vote: Hinduragi.

Let's go with what I wanted to do yesterday, alright?
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Post Post #447 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:22 am

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Okay, three days until deadline. What are we doing today? If we're letting Hindu be modkilled, I'd be glad to lynch TBM. Anyone else?
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Post Post #457 (isolation #12) » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:13 am

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I'm obvtown. Sheesh.
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Post Post #459 (isolation #13) » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:34 am

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What the hell are you talking about. I have this game figured out. TBM is an SK and Hindu is mafia/town. You're town because of your foolish strongheadedness displayed in both this game and that ongoing one. nopoint is town because of what he said before about RC.
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Post Post #468 (isolation #14) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:06 pm

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lol wat
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Post Post #470 (isolation #15) » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:28 pm

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That doesn't help me in the slightest.
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Post Post #476 (isolation #16) » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:56 am

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This game.
Sigh.
I'll have to do a reread, but right now I want to say that Kat is town just for balance purposes.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #17) » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:09 pm

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no.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #18) » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:10 pm

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wait, wrong account. i meant to post on Fate ooooooooops
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Post Post #481 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:26 am

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Wait. Katsuki, you're claiming even-night WATCHER?
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Post Post #482 (isolation #20) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:02 pm

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Welp, I guess I'm just going to have to consider that a slip in Kat's claim.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #21) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:05 pm

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Oops.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 7:10 pm

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whooooooooo party
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Post Post #493 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:13 pm

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Fate wrote:I agree that the mechanic may have been a damper to interest in this game, but SpyreX said he liked it and Nikanor seemed to understand it easily enough so I'm not sure what the deal was besides two site-flakers.
Mechanics that restrict what you can say about your role usually put a damper on things, but that shouldn't be a surprise.
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Post Post #498 (isolation #24) » Tue Dec 14, 2010 8:25 pm

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I understand why you couldn't let people claim it, and agree that we shouldn't have been able to, but at the same time I think that it was a bad idea to run a mechanic that we couldn't talk about. What good is an interesting mechanic if we're not allowed to discuss it in-thread? The special mechanic might as well have not been present.
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Post Post #504 (isolation #25) » Thu Dec 16, 2010 12:58 pm

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nopoint wrote:But seriously @@ Why do people think I'm not town? ==
I thought you were townish. But then again, I'm a total genius at mafia
even though i thought Kat was town too.
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