Mini 1085: Higurashi Mafia Game Over!

[UncertainKitten]

Sorry to keep distracting you

[Drench]

MY HEAD IT HURTS WHAT THE DEVILRY IS THIS

i give up, carrot still hasn't gone back and answered the questions as far as i can see

obligatory wtfzodiark, i'll actually go back and read in a bit, but for now

UNVOTE
VOTE: CARROT

SCUM

CAKE

also coloured truths everywhere ooooo

That appears to be L-1.

p-edit: i think i've lost count of how many times i've read that game, UK
the 'leaked ep6 screenies' had me in laughter

[Lady Lambdadelta]

8. magnus_orion, Ushiromiya Eva,

Child Abuse

Mafia Demoralizer, has been moved to a deadly kakera N1

You sure the bolded part wasn't meant for Rosa?

[UncertainKitten]

Read on. All will be clear when you read the full set up .

[Carrotcake]

So furstrating. I'll just take a nap and comeback tommorow, maybe.
But before that.
Watcher here, doctor on me.

[SpyreX]

Alll that flavor talk and lol gambit and you claim without any flavor? Ohh that is so beautiful.

[TheLonging]

What questions have I left unanswered?

*rolls eyes*

Zodiark is my vote for scum right now. I can actually let his attempt at squashing discussion slide, as it isn't entirely brought about by scummy malice. And is more like him acting as an authoritative censor. But his serial killer tangent is troubling.
His fear of a serial killer is completely unfounded. Night has nev

Glad to know there's SOMETHING we can agree with/

And I find it the desire for speed on the wagon troubling, spyrex stands out. We seem perfectly content with going through with this, even without the participation of a large part of town. Also, the way the reasoning is presented is done in such a way that cleaning themselves of accountability after my lynch would be as painless as possible.

Assuming you're town and all. And sometimes speedlynches are good. And a large part of town? last I knew, you're at L-2.

mean, if carrot flips town, I see no scum motivation in it. Just a paranoid townie.

Exactly. This lynch is engineered to give as little profit to the town as possible, on the probable likelihood of a townie lynch. And it is probable. By definition day one kills aren't even substantiated, and you are still quite close to the 9/12 chance (99% of 12 player games have 3 scum).

You're contradicting this e_e

I can accept gambling disadvantageously and lynching day one. But create it in such a way where people are committed to the lynch, right now, it's all meta chatting. There is little drive to hunt for infomation.

You're saying... no lynch?

Prolonging this lynch as long as possible is as townie as it gets. It leads to more discussion. And I assure you, if you let me die this way. Day two will be slowly, maybe try questioning before killing me?

We're not in any rush, at least I'm not.

Is it so hard to believe, that people bring up topics they may not agree in, in the interests of creating discussion.
"OHH IT WAS LOL REACTIONS AND TRAP SPRUNG NOW doesn't change anything."
Why?
Why doesn't it change anythign.
Are you implying that creating reactions on day one, is without merit.

Because it's stupid backtracking you used. "What does everyone think?" versus "LOLOLOL REACTIONS" are two different things, despite what the wording may imply.

I don't feel like re-typing what I already have for you. Read my posts and ask for clarifications.

Laziness, you think we haven't been reading?

We have devolved into personal attacks, instead of actual points. Fabulous.

It's not like you haven't started this

since near the beginning of the game

So furstrating. I'll just take a nap and comeback tommorow, maybe.
But before that.
Watcher here, doctor on me.

I've also learned through experience here and off-site that watcher claims aren't to be trusted.

FULL CLAIM. Rolename, role abilities (since I've also seen 2 different types of watcher on site)

[UncertainKitten]

SpyreX has many points I overlooked.

I was actually gonna unvote and ruminate ^-^.

You should probably full claim, thank you.

@Longing: I was actually going to run scenarios to see if a claimed watcher was worth keeping alive. I'm leaning no at first blush but still worth some though.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

"Child Abuse Mafia Faction"

Priceless. Pure fucking GOLD.

Ok. Full claim thanks. Then we can lynch you because I'm NOT buying the Watcher claim for 1 second.

[TheLonging]

carrotcake HAS to claim with name, abilities, etc. If nothing checks out, lynch. Then again, considering it's Haylen, and it's themed, he may also have a fake claim, but the fact that he outright CLAIMS an ability without the name is just bad.

also it's

[UncertainKitten]

I personally liked the bitchiness mafia . Erika Furudo's PR was awesome. Too bad she NEVER FUCKING POSTED.

/me grumbles.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm thinking the PR had something to do with that. xD

[UncertainKitten]

Snow_Bunny, right? No, she just lurks.

Wasn't that hard a PR either, and to be honest being Erika didn't make you automatically scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

But Beatrice's red truths combined with Erika confirmed did.

[UncertainKitten]

The game would have had to last 6 days for that, IIRC.

With two scum teams that would be impossible.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

On a more serious note, if Carrotcake just left instead of full claiming... Gah. >.<

P-Edit: oh, so that's what that meant. Yeah, you're right.

Why in heavens name did Kairyuu self vote?

[UncertainKitten]

Because he heartily misunderstood his situation and the vulnerability of Tarhalindur-Beatrice.

Anyway, I'm headed to bed.

[Carrotcake]

I don't feel like full claiming. Why don't you people just kill me right now?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't feel like full claiming. Why don't you people just kill me right now?

This can be arranged. Refusal to claim @ L-1. Waiting for Rena to provide fake claim?

Who wants to hammer?

[SpyreX]

If this doesn't happen before I go to bed. WRATH.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Zodiark is online, and is not already on Carrot.

Zodiark, would you mind doing the honors?

[Drench]

I don't feel like full claiming. Why don't you people just kill me right now?

If I could reach into the computer and slap you, I would. Someone, please, FINISH THEM.

[Carrotcake]

Excellent, I'm still alive.

This particular game of mafia has been really interesting for me. It's the phenomenon of being scummy, when you allow yourself complete honesty on every single thing you type. Role-fishing is scummy, is part of the collective knowledge of the site. But never, in my multiple accounts and multiple games have I ever seen scum actually role-fish day one without pressure. Ever. Yet, on practically every single game this comes up. It's as if we have a universally accepted misconception.

The Scum is a boogeyman. He is idealized, as scummy. And he remains this way because of ego. We were asked early on, how would we act as scum. Most of the answers were jokes. "I am Legion". We arrogantly believe that we act the same way as scum as we are town. This is very dangerous. We prevent ourselves from truly searching for tells, and connecting with the people we play against. Instead, we are trapped in a library of principles, that never truly work, and worst of all, lack any semblance of being genuine.

Full claiming won't grant you additional information.
Rushing this, while it sates your impuleses, also grant you no additional information.
If the amount of discussion is a measurable barometer for the town's resources. And people are ever so ready to reduce it. I wonder who truly is detrimental to the town.

also, lol at the internet tough guy.

[SpyreX]

Am I the criminal, or is it YOU plebs?

Los ropos.

P.S. If it is time for the heat death of the universe and you flip town:

I feel no remorse. I would do it again.

[CityofAs]

I don't like how Carrot is ignoring everything he doesn't want to respond to. He hasn't proven to me that he isn't scummy. I'm keeping my vote as it is.

Her case is meaningless

You had 4 votes on you as of this post. If that's not meaning I don't know what is.

@ Jester possibility: IMO, if there's a Jester we're screwed anyway, and the chance is low. So let's just hope there's not and go on as normal. Zodiark looks slightly defensive of Carrot, so he becomes scummier if Carrot flips scum.

vote cityofas

opourtunistic bandwagoning

I would like to point out that I have (i think) 2 votes on me already. So what are you doing? I would also like to point out that you have posted like no content this game. (granted, there's like 5 more pages every 24 hours, so it is hard to keep up). I posted reasoning for voting Carrot. Are you saying he isn't scummy? If I have good reasoning, it isn't opportunistic bandwagoning.

Things depend on this flip, o course, but:

Lambda-chan: Drench, Carrotcake
Rena: UK
Cityofas: ZazieR, Zodiark
Zodiark: Exilon
Carrotcake: Lambda-chan, TheLonging, UncertainKitten, Spyrex

Not Voting: Cityofas, andrew24, Tumescence

I think this will be a fun one come parse time. If this is a scum flip I'm not smelling bus for once which would be AWESOME-O

andrew is voting CityofAs, I am voting Carrot, UK is not voting Rena, I think the rest is right... but I'm too lazy to check...

CityofA's vote was suspicious to me. Like... He wanted to disassociate himself from Carrot(especially after Carrot had defended his RQS so hardcore).

If I were a betting woman, I'd go after him if Carrot flips scum.

I didn't ask him to defend me... and a good scum will defend town as well (although if Carrot is scum, he's not a good one so... I guess that's not a point in my favor >_>)