Mini 1085: Higurashi Mafia Game Over!

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, again? Pah, SC is too easy on towns. SCWN 2 was pretty town dominated as well. They even had the luxury of lynching a claimed jester (me)

[TheLonging]

zod's speculation makes it seem like he would know that Carrot is town (which I'm highly doubtful of btw), or that he's defending Carrot because he's a scum PR (more likely), but he flip flopped between lynching him and not lynching him within a couple posts, and changed flavor speculation so quickly. If I wasn't voting Carrot, I'd vote him. Which reminds me, I've ignored him before that point, and I wonder if it's worth it to read his posts previous to that.

SWN is pretty fun, too bad I was overloaded with like 20 mafia games at the time to continue playing. How was that Umineko PR working for you LL?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Nah. Wasn't that unbalanced.

It's just that Antihero got a day vig ability and shot 3 of the 4 scum.

The other scum died at the hands of the Town JOAT, who randomly selected a box to give to mafia member, which had a kill inside.

P-Edit: I stopped using the PR for the most part TL. I would have kept using it, but it was a pain in the ass. I use it every now and again though, when I feel like it xD

[UncertainKitten]

Oh great, apparently Lady Lambdadelta is my secret multiple personality alt.

You should read TRADTiMM sometime. Where, ironically enough, I was Miyo Takano fakeclaiming Beatrice

[Lady Lambdadelta]

When I am forming a really long wall post, I'll use red to outline facts given to us, and blue to outline my theories. It makes it easier to read that way.

Otherwise, it's useless in a short post.

About Zodiark: if he "knew carrot was town", why would he suddenly have a change of heart and OK his lynch?

P-edit: 1)Link me 2)LOL, you fake claimed BEATRICE? That's just going from the frying pan and into the fire, no?

[TheLonging]

I was thinking for a second that LL was a clone of UK

PEDIT: Yeah I agree, why did you fake claim Beatrice, unless you were Jester or bomb <_<

[UncertainKitten]

Spoiler alert: I won as Inquisitor

I proceeded to win a second time, as inquisitor, in Plum's Encore mafia.

It helped that RBT is completely incompetent, but that's beside the point.

[TheLonging]

lmao

I wanted to run an anime themed for a while, but apparently I've been beaten to the punch about a billion times. oh well

[Lady Lambdadelta]

5) Papa Zito, Light Yagami (from Death Note), Mafia Infiltrator, Clawed His Own Throat Out Night 1

K. Was that you spreading Hinamizawa sydrome?

[UncertainKitten]

Yep ^-^.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

What's up with all the Modkills?

[UncertainKitten]

Tarhalindur, mostly. Weren't there two that game? One was from penning himself into a corner with his own rules...a logic error if you will :p. The other, IIRC, was well deserved by whoever received it. I could be wrong though.

[TheLonging]

Yep ^-^.

You evil bastard you

Fos: UK

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[Carrotcake]

What questions have I left unanswered?
Lambda, your tastes on how I should post don't matter. You have directly avoided reasoning out why in the span of a few posts, you backed down and said you were only doing it for the pressure. It defeats the purpose of pressure, and all your doing is creating padding for my inevitable pro-town flip.

Zodiark is my vote for scum right now. I can actually let his attempt at squashing discussion slide, as it isn't entirely brought about by scummy malice. And is more like him acting as an authoritative censor. But his serial killer tangent is troubling.
His fear of a serial killer is completely unfounded. Night has never fallen. This is probably paranoia brought about the insecurity that the mafia may not be the only group capable of a night kill.

/vote Zodiark

And I find it the desire for speed on the wagon troubling, spyrex stands out. We seem perfectly content with going through with this, even without the participation of a large part of town. Also, the way the reasoning is presented is done in such a way that cleaning themselves of accountability after my lynch would be as painless as possible.

mean, if carrot flips town, I see no scum motivation in it. Just a paranoid townie.

Exactly. This lynch is engineered to give as little profit to the town as possible, on the probable likelihood of a townie lynch. And it is probable. By definition day one kills aren't even substantiated, and you are still quite close to the 9/12 chance (99% of 12 player games have 3 scum).

I can accept gambling disadvantageously and lynching day one. But create it in such a way where people are committed to the lynch, right now, it's all meta chatting. There is little drive to hunt for infomation.

Prolonging this lynch as long as possible is as townie as it gets. It leads to more discussion. And I assure you, if you let me die this way. Day two will be slowly, maybe try questioning before killing me?

[UncertainKitten]

Why have you not mentioned me in a single post yet, Carrot? Despite being rather strongly in favor of your lynch, and committing many of the sins you accuse other players of?

Also, quicklynches get a lot of information .

[Carrotcake]

"Hey, asking EVERYONE what they think about a flavor claim isn't ME asking for a flavor claim" It's more than semantics, it's about meaning.


1.) What does everyone think of a flavor claim?
2.) What's your flavor? Baby, what's your flavor?
Is more than a semantic difference. What I'm trying to say is totally different.
It would have been a trap, but it seems everyone has an irrational fear of someone suggesting a flavor claim. Rather than debuke, everyone went batshit crazy.

How is this scummy? And since we are in the business of proof, can you post one game, ever, where scum suggestion a role claim?
What's happening now is a lynch on principle. Designed to grant as little information post lynch, because hey, it's on principle.

Sorry kitten, you didn't seem important.

[Carrotcake]

And I'm in a swamp right now. There's too many things.
quicklynches get a lot of information.

Here's a question for you then.
Will a quicklynch give us more information than prolonging this, for this instance?

Twenty Liters of water is heavy, but it isn't as heavy as a whale.

[Carrotcake]

Plus, I'm on Zodiark, and you're just being a pest like the rest of the town.

[SpyreX]

It doesn't matter WHAT you were talking about at that point (the fact that a flavor claim is bad is just icing). It is far more about "Welp, what does everyone think about doing X" to "I never SAID we should do X" which means either you are lying in the second statement OR your first statement was unnecessary white noise.

Your pick.

At the end of both roads is a noose.

And then going OHH IT WAS LOL REACTIONS AND TRAP SPRUNG NOW doesn't change anything.

And I'm pretty sure I saw BY THE POWER OF MATH I AM TOWN up in there too.

[Carrotcake]

Simplifications don't work for you spyrex. I can come to accept my lynch, but used simple math to highlight the staggering lack of preparation for the likely outcome.
Exactly.
I never said we should do X.
I said we should discuss doing X.

Is it so hard to believe, that people bring up topics they may not agree in, in the interests of creating discussion.
"OHH IT WAS LOL REACTIONS AND TRAP SPRUNG NOW doesn't change anything."
Why?
Why doesn't it change anythign.
Are you implying that creating reactions on day one, is without merit.

[Carrotcake]

Spyrex, why do you want this done quickly?

[UncertainKitten]

Will a quicklynch give us more information than prolonging this, for this instance?

Yes.

And I like it when scum don't think I'm important. It means they won't NK me .

SpyreX has also covered many of the things wrong with your defense ^-^.

Yanno, you could have avoided this by being town. But, failing that, by answering the questions asked of you rather than going off on tangents that literally make no sense.

[UncertainKitten]

Oh, you tricky cake, I almost fell for it!

You never DID answer my question. I've committed the sins you've called scummy. Why aren't I?

[Carrotcake]

If you want in on the talk kitty, tackle my points directly. Don't dance around them.

Yes. - Please talk about it. You have no authority, so you pretty have to come up with reasoning. Rather than leave raw words.
What questions?

[Carrotcake]

I want some focus. Do you agree with what I've said on Zod? Kitty.