Mini #1081 - SitMOA Mafia (Endgame... Congrats, winners!)

[Doombunny9]

btw, all your actions, will the person know that they are affected? did you use any last night? it is easy to confirm, but is it town abilities.

Seriously now, lets think before posting. I'm not even going to tell you why this is crap posting because if you would think about it a bit more (no offence) you'd understand why XD I'll give you a hint: MASS ROLEBLOCK

Also, as an edit to my last post:

@DH- Either do one of two things. 1. Cast Eagles Splendor or Haste on someone you think is protown other than yourself (Bears Endurance is pretty fucking pointless) or 2. Cast Baleful Polymorph on someone you think is anti-town.

[chesskid3]

I think Narsis was saying he Didn't get a pm that said he got roleblocked last night :/

[andrew94]

@doom i was creating a trap for him.

[Dark Horse]

Scratch what narsis. I said about, I don't like his posting in general.
VOTE: Narsis

This is supposed to read "Scratch what I said about narsis. I don't like his posting in general." x_x

[Snow_Bunny]

Votecount - The second mistake...

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (0) -
ThAdmiral (0) -
Narsis (2) - Doombunny9, vezokpiraka
Dark Horse (2) - ThAdmiral, chesskid
chesskid3 (0) -
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (0) -
andrew94 (2) - gandalf5166, Dark Horse
Katsuki (0) -
AdumbroDeus (0) -

Not voting (5) - Narsis, Katsuki, malthusis, andrew94, AdumbroDeus

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

You know, gandalf, it'd be good for you if you unvoted from time to time. ¬_¬

Deadline is on at December 7th at midnight.

[chesskid3]

Prod ThAdmiral,Adumbro,Katsuki?

[malthusis]

@Mod: Prod ThAdmiral,Adumbro,Katsuki?

^^

[Doombunny9]

@doom i was creating a trap for him.

Is this honestly the best you can do in terms of scumhunting? If so then you're not trying hard enough.

@Malt- Same goes for you.

[Snow_Bunny]

Katsuki is vla. ThAdmiral posted just today. And Adumbro isn't picking the prods, so I guess I'll have to replace him.

[ThAdmiral]

Case against narsis:
Early in day 1 was suspicious of andrew and vezo. Here is why:

vezokpiraka: for not doing anything but actually being around and posting.
andrew94: for similar reasons

Not very strong cases on either, so it could be argued he was going for easy targets.

When asked about other lurkers, such as RBT and vren, he said that he thought andrew and vezo were worse, but he didn't like them either.
So basically he has a large pool of people he would be happy to lynch, but as far as I can tell does not have anyone pegged as town, i.e. someone he wouldn't be happy to lynch.
Scum like large pools of people to lynch from for obvious reasons.

After a wagon forms on RBT he switches over. He explains why:

1. A governor shot is an easily confirmed ability. Furthermore a scum fakeclaim make more sense going for doctor or cop or some other role like that that makes more flavour sense. (yeah WIFOM...fun stuff!)
2. It could be a useful ability later.
3. We can lynch him later if he doesnt continue contributing/does more scummy things.
4. RBT wagon looks good.

1. admits it is wifom and therefore invalid
2. alright
3. sets vezok up as a potential lynch down the track
4. doesn't explain why the wagon looks "good"

Interestingly he says this a little later:

oh i'm quite knowledgable on the flavour. it's why i'm asking the question. i dont quite see how a gov shot or no lynch shot fit into the flavour.

So he doesn't see how a gov shot would fit in to the flavour, but he was willing to jump off vezok and on to rbt. Why?

Keeps saying "I am town". Not helpful.

Dark Horse isn't a VT. 100% guaranteed.

Do you know this because he is your scum partner?

Yeah, so basically he is scum. But mainly because he used a list.

unvote
vote: narsis

[chesskid3]

WAAAAAAIIIIT.

Anyone see what I am seeing in the claim of RBT. I think he is a godfather.

He should be the lynch for today.

VOTE: RBT

His claim..... seems wrong to me. I don't like it. It doesn't make sense from a cross-reference of my abilities and his.

I'm a generalist (or universalist), though I feel like I should be an Illusionist from having two spells from there.

more questions:
Triggered means automatically triggered? If you are targetted to be killed and tried to you a different action, what happens? do you perform both actions and live and kill your vig target, do you die and kill your target, or is your action changed to false visions and you don't shoot but survive?

Invisibility is self only?

Yes. I can only cast one spell per night, but I won't "cast" it unless I'm attacked at night. Thus, it's like choosing to be bulletproof, should I be targeted.

Honestly, Chess' blatant rolefishing has got to stop either way. If I use my vig, that's where it's going.

@Narsis: That's all he's really done to me all game. I wouldn't hold your breath.

If this is my last chance to post, I strongly suggest looking at the following as scum: Chess, Vezok, and one of (Narsis/Adumbro/Katsuki). The first two read "scumbuddies4life", and the other three are the ones I'm interested in getting some more out of, and can't decide which is the most likely remaining partner.

Absolute BS. I asked the mod the same question about triggered abilities and they said that they are passive free abilities. You can use 1 active ability at night and any triggered abilities will still activate.

It sort of seems like a gambit to waste any town vig shots in a last gambit to hold on to your scummy life.

PEDit: I was about to vote, but Gandalf voted before me

I'll wait to hammer just in case anyone has any last words.

Blargh, a lot of catching up to do. I'm just going to skim through for now and give it a solid read later today.

1. RBTs claim is obvfake. On of my spellnames is the exact same (Not saying which one you dirty scumz) and it does something totally differant.
2. Even though I hate Andrew's posts so far he is screaming VT to me which is making me think he's town. Narsis is now my #2 pick.
3. Similar to what chess said: Be careful with one shots everybody! We may need them later.

HoHum

STOP IGNORING THIS PL0X.

ALSO DH OWES ME SOME STUFF THAT HE SAID WASN'T WORTH SAYING BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE ALREADY SAID IT.

[vezokpiraka]

Mod:

You didn't count DH vote on Narsis.

Narsis wagon is full of win and I like how DH is bussing his buddy to gain town cred.

[chesskid3]

he didn't unvote, the VC is correct.

[andrew94]

why do we have to choose between 2 players. from what i see, someone else is more scummy (admiral)

[chesskid3]

make a case

[andrew94]

.. i think i already did

read iso

[ThAdmiral]

to: chesskid@ihavehimonmytownlist.com
subject: re: stop ignoring this plox.

Dear Chesskid,

What is it you want us to look at? rbt was town so surely he wasn't lying. If flavour can't break the game it makes sense if some people have the same moves. Maybe people were also told different things about how triggered abilities work as well, or there was some miscommunication there.

Regards
ThAdmiral

[ThAdmiral]

lol.
The email address actually came up as a link

[ThAdmiral]

I'm oh so sorry for thinking that "Writing lists like you did" and "Using lists with a lot of points" means "BS reasons".

Way to ignore the non-bolded bits in the quotes you just put up.
In fact let me bold the actual points:

when you write a list like you did

it makes it seem you have more evidence than you do

against someone, it is a way to manufacture weight behind your reasoning especially when you know the reasoning is weak.

For using lists with lots of points on it

to make it seem like they have a much better case than they actually have!

Get it now?

I just looked back and all my reasons were valid. Care to explain how they are not?

Wait, you had to look back to

check if your points were valid

? I think that just proves my case.

thadmiral, i think you are twisting his points. for example i have many games going on at once, i cant look back to my points?
what if it is lylo, then ppl who said 'reading' is scuM?
horrible logic

unvote vote admiral

thadmiral, i think you are twisting his points. for example i have many games going on at once, i cant look back to my points?

He said that he didn't do this, so it is a moot point.

what if it is lylo, then ppl who said 'reading' is scuM?
horrible logic

Don't remember saying that, mate.

where did he say he didnt go back and 'LOOK AT HIS POINTS AGAIN?" it was just before your post and i can go quote it if you want.

dude, i was saying in general, in lylo, people say 'brb reading the thread' - then can ppl say - lol he has go LOOK Back FOR HIS POINTS? scum...

Andrew's case against me as far as I can tell having iso'd him.
Although calling it a "case" is being a bit kind.

[Dark Horse]

STOP IGNORING THIS PL0X.

ALSO DH OWES ME SOME STUFF THAT HE SAID WASN'T WORTH SAYING BECAUSE EVERYONE ELSE ALREADY SAID IT.

That was it, lol. There had only been a page after I had last posted, didn't have much to say.

Mod:

You didn't count DH vote on Narsis.

Narsis wagon is full of win and I like how DH is bussing his buddy to gain town cred.

Do you think I would make an obvious bus like that? (if it was a bus)

Oh,

Unvoe, vote: Narsis

I wonder if anyone is convinced by andrew's argument....

[Doombunny9]

I wonder if anyone is convinced by andrew's argument....

I'm not It is a VERY very poor case and if its honestly the best that Andrew can come up with, he needs to try harder.

Also, I would like to change my request to DH again regarding abilities (This is the last time I swear):

Cast Eagles Splendor or Haste on someone you think is pro town other than you. Don't cast Bears Endurance as it is worthless and don't cast Baleful Polymorph as I could see it as a scum ability.

Yeah, so basically he is scum. But mainly because he used a list.

You're just doing this to spite me, aren't you XD

[chesskid3]

Do you think I would make an obvious bus like that? (if it was a bus)

Sigh.

Narsis wagon is moving too fast. That's L-2 with Adumbro's replacement still owing a nice catchup post, and Katsuki owing a lot of posts.

[Narsis]

Do you think I would make an obvious bus like that? (if it was a bus)

Sigh.

Narsis wagon is moving too fast. That's L-2 with Adumbro's replacement still owing a nice catchup post, and Katsuki owing a lot of posts.

wonder what that says about the wagon...

[ThAdmiral]

Narsis wagon is moving too fast.

This isn't that surprising as a lot of people had expressed suspicions of him. Also because after the claim people have moved off dh and narsis was the obvious next target.

[Doombunny9]

wonder what that says about the wagon...

This is the best we get from you? Moar defence and scumhunting pl0x.