SSK(Under Zwet's Evil Mind Powers)'s Random Mafia XL Day 3

[Kitoari]

Hmm, game's slowing down. Obviously we need more chess votes.

Last couple posts have been back and forth between vezok and prokhor, not much to say.

[Tasky]

Hmm, game's slowing down. Obviously we need more chess votes.

Last couple posts have been back and forth between vezok and prokhor, not much to say.

right.
chesskid is the wagon to go

[Kitoari]

Actually, what we REALLY need is a votecount.

@Mod: Votecount?

[Toon Fighter]

hello, everybody. How's it going?

[MafiaSSK]

Vote Count

FrozenMirror

(2)- gandalf5166, Danakillsu

Feysal

(2)- IH,Toon Fighter

Helghast

(1)- WeaponsofMassConstruction

Chesskid3

(6)-BunnyLover,Wraith, Tasky, Rain, Nero Cain, Kitoari

WeaponsofMassConstruction

(1)- FrozenMirror

Kitoari

(1)-Chesskid3

IH

(1)- Feysal

Nero Cain

(1)- Sleepless Assassin

ProhorZakharov

(1)- vezokpiraka

Remeber kids, unvote first then vote.

[gandalf5166]

unvote
VOTE: WOMC

[Kitoari]

The unvote first rule always gets me. But my vote's on chesskid, so all is well.

[chesskid3]

Lol, this thread has slowed down because I had a super busy weekend, and "people" are afraid that if this BS wagon swings around it'll land on them, so they're just riding...note BunnyLover,Wraith, Tasky, Rain, Nero Cain haven't actually posted anything since voting for me.
Woo! GO TRAIN!

[gandalf5166]

I like this new chess that actually makes sense when he posts.

[Nero Cain]

Chesskid has reverted to VI status.

QFT!!!!
[...]
WMC, Chess or Sleepless needs rope.

Wait, so you think he's a VI that needs rope? What makes him scum VI over town VI? Explain please.

I believe I called him scummy before I agreed that he was a VI. His play has been bad. It really looks like he's buddying/fefending WMC. 139 is horrid. The fact he believes WMC is town based on his *yawn* reaction/"towntell" is silly beyond belief. He either knows WMC is town based on him not being on his scum team or WMC is on his scum team.

In response to why the Weapons wagon is garbage:

Yeah, Helghast is probably scum. Textbook call to action play.

But, unvote, vote: Night

I don't really like this at all. Weapons feels like he has a decent target to scum hunt and pressure, but he actively chooses not to. In lynching night, we lose a lynch and give scum a free night kill. Then we don't really have much of any advantage to us. Deciding against attacking a scummy looking player and instead trying to "break the game" seems much more motivated by scum mindsets than town. This is comparable to saying "Helghast is probably scum. Vote no lynch."

Unvote, vote WeaponsOfMassConstruction

for ignoring a scum suspect to do something pointless.

@Nero Cain: How come you're not voting anyone yet?

No one did anything scummy until page 4 and I wasn't around.

vote WeaponsOfMassConstruction

Yeah he was all like

this guy (Helghast) is scum but instead I'm going to vote with the rest of the town.

Then when he was pressed on it he votes Helghast? Panicked scum is panicking.

unvote
vote weapons

UNVOTE: VOTE: WeaponsofMassConstruction

There are four votes here. From what I see, the case is that Weapons made an amusing joke vote instead of voting someone who he just called scum. After Frozen, the last three just kind of jump on. Nero echos what Frozen already said where the other two add no text at all. Vezok's vote is all playstyle here. Tasky doesn't seem to be just randomly hopping the easy wagon considering he's had a few (unexplained) votes and has since unvoted. Nero comes out looking the worst here.

Unvote, Vote Nero

Hrmmm....ok

Timeline!!!!!

Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:49 pm is my last post prior to me voting WMC.
Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:16 pm is the post where WMC says that Helghast
is scum but votes night instead.
Sat Nov 13, 2010 12:17 pm is when Frozen presses WMC on not voting for Helghast.
Sat Nov 13, 2010 6:47 pm is where WMC finally votes Helghast.
Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:27 pm this is where I vote WMC for voting Helghast

ONLY

'cause Frozen pressed him on the matter.

So how was I supposed to vote for WMC when I wasn't on? And really isn't that how you get a lynch anyways; ppl agree with each other.

I voted weapons for what Nero said.

So your attempted buddying of Vezo and Tasky are noted.

+wraith=active lurking

[Bunnylover]

Lol, this thread has slowed down because I had a super busy weekend, and "people" are afraid that if this BS wagon swings around it'll land on them, so they're just riding...note BunnyLover,Wraith, Tasky, Rain, Nero Cain haven't actually posted anything since voting for me.
Woo! GO TRAIN!

Note that a lot of people haven't posted anything.
My last post Post #232 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:09 pm
Your last post before this one Post #239 » Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:53 pm

Not much of a difference.
I've made my case, and I stand by it. What more do you want me to say?

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

So, FM is still not making sense about the me not scumhunting thing. Giving up.

Everyone: what are your thoughts on Feysal and Helghast?

Yes, Nero, *yawn* is a towntell. It is loads of not giving a shit.

[Nero Cain]

Yes, Nero, *yawn* is a towntell. It is loads of not giving a shit.

If you don't care whats the point of signing up?

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

The "about weak accusations" was implied.

[vezokpiraka]

So why are we voting WMC again?

Why not ride the most awesome wagon with me. Prokhor.

[Helghast]

Trying to push an agenda there ey Vez

[Tasky]

boring.

[FrozenMirror]

+wraith=active lurking

Yes, and Espeonage is regular lurking.

Can we have a prod on him?

So, FM is still not making sense about the me not scumhunting thing. Giving up.

Alright, I'll try to be clear and concise.

You aren't scum hunting. ISO 7 is the only time you've done it all game.

There. Still confused?

I'm still not down for a chess lynch, but any vig who night kills him gets town points.

[Wraith]

Again, I've explained that I'm very behind on work. If I can't catch up during Thanksgiving Break Ill probably replace out. We'll see.

[FrozenMirror]

Hey look it’s me again, only moreso me than me …

Dana @238

– Let’s address your ‘scum-tells’.

1. So you are stating that since I don’t believe in behavioral Town-tells (which I don’t and I’m not alone … vollkan comes to mind personally) that my opinion on Mafia theory means I’m scum. Funny.
2. Chesskid is a VI. Look at his games. As with dealing with all VIs you have to know how to filter out the inherent VI-ness and get to the behavior that transcends VI status and can indicate Town versus Scum play. Just like dealing with other VIs like Vezok or Furcolow here on site.

ToonFighter

continues to play the role of useless lurker to a tee.

WMC @ 261

– Yet again the lulz. So anyone who dismisses an early game case against them by posting fluff is Town? I’d love to see a complete MD thread started by you in which you explain your full Mafia philosophy. It would be an interesting read to say the least.

Helghast @ 265

continues to be an active-lurking scum.

[Helghast]

Wow this day has like been the longest ever!
Helghast @ 265 continues to be an active-lurking scum.- This is not the case. I just dont have a lot to say. I dont add so much like some of the others here.

[WeaponsofMassConstruction]

Helghast @ 270

continues to be an active-lurking scum.

[danakillsu]

2. Chesskid is a VI. Look at his games. As with dealing with all VIs you have to know how to filter out the inherent VI-ness and get to the behavior that transcends VI status and can indicate Town versus Scum play. Just like dealing with other VIs like Vezok or Furcolow here on site.

And the behavior that transcends VI status conveniently does not include anything negative about you. This is what I find MOST scummy. And yes, unless you can prove a previous statement of it, this particular belief about mafia theory is a scumtell.

[chesskid3]

I'm still here, Mon-Tues suck for me, sorry.

[ProkhorZakharov]

So why are we voting WMC again?

Why not ride the most awesome wagon with me. Prokhor.

You should answer my questions from last page.

@Mod

: Espeonage, Feysal, IH, Rain and Sleepless Assassin all need a prod (I think).