Mini #1081 - SitMOA Mafia (Endgame... Congrats, winners!)

[andrew94]

but the second one has absolutely nothing to do with the first one

[chesskid3]

Stinking cloud creates a bank of fog like that created by fog cloud, except that the vapors are

nauseating

. Living creatures in the cloud become

nauseated

. This condition lasts as long as the creature is in the cloud and for 1d4+1 rounds after it leaves. (Roll separately for each

nauseated

character.) Any creature that succeeds on its save but remains in the cloud must continue to save each round on your turn.

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[andrew94]

errr, HOW DOES THAT GOT TO DO WITH NO LYNCH

[Dark Horse]

Darkhorse's last two posts bump him down to the very bottom null read (as in null heavily leaning scum).

*sighs* Can you get any worse? You're OMGUS-ing now

[ThAdmiral]

ThAdmiral why did you just open a can of Wifom stew?

Cause the shits delicious! I've got seconds if anyones interested.

town do have a reason to behave like this though in some sense. if you can't convince anyone of your case against scum, then no matter how good a scumhunter you are, you aren't going to get them lynched.

Not a bad point.
Buuut, doombunny denies doing this. He seems to genuinely think his case is/was good.

By "combining the tells" do you mean putting them all together or putting similar points together?

Ok you seem to have misunderstood me again. This time I'm blaming you.
I realize that you would be expected to put the points in the same post, and I realize that each point is different.
My PROBLEM is with the fact that I believe hardly any of them are decent tells AT ALL; that you intended to fool people in to thinking you had a decent case by putting down a lot of points, even though the points weren't valid.

Also, you didn't answer my question towards you. Do so.

This question?

Even if I did have short term memory and needed to check my post, how would that be scummy?

It ties in to my theory that you didn't have a strong case. I feel like if you had a strong case against someone you would be much more likely to remember it.

Making assumptions like this aren't good reasons for clearing someone. Can you read the game mod's mind'?

Yes!

Seriously though, making assumptions is generally not a good idea, but people can make educated guesses. For example if one person claims doc and another counter-claims it wouldn't be an

assumption

to say that one of those two people are scum, it would be an

educated guess

.

[chesskid3]

Andrew

http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Nauseated

Experiencing stomach distress.

Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells, or do anything

else requiring attention. The only action such a character can take is a single move action per turn.

I'm done responding to you. You can't be this dumb.

Darkhorse

Actually, your last two posts I mentioned weren't really about me (one is sort of related, shrug). Nice misrep.
Have a looksie:

None of your business. Also, don't forget that I may or may not actually have it. I'm not telling you. I'm going to dangle it over all your heads.

If you're alive toMorrow, i'll raise an eyebrow.

Hi my name is darkhorse and I like to line up lynches.

Also chess clearly is NOT SCUM! If he had a no-lynch ability as scum: a) there is no way he would have claimed it as the mafia could have just used it whenever they wanted to get another nk, b) giving scum a no-lynch is too powerful.
Unless you think he is lying about his claim, but this seems unlikely as it has been apparently backed up by flavor.

Making assumptions like this aren't good reasons for clearing someone. Can you read the game mod's mind'?

OH DRAT, SOMEONE THINKS CHESS IS TOWN. PANIC MODE ENGAGE. ATTACK THE LOGIC! ATTACK!

[ThAdmiral]

errr, HOW DOES THAT GOT TO DO WITH NO LYNCH

[chesskid3]

[chesskid3]

That's a preemptive double facepalm, btw.
Andrew, after your next post, look at the double facepalm

[ThAdmiral]

None of your business. Also, don't forget that I may or may not actually have it. I'm not telling you. I'm going to dangle it over all your heads.

If you're alive toMorrow, i'll raise an eyebrow.

Hi my name is darkhorse and I like to line up lynches.

This is 100% true. I can't believe I missed it.

vote: dark horse

[Dark Horse]

Yes!

Seriously though, making assumptions is generally not a good idea, but people can make educated guesses. For example if one person claims doc and another counter-claims it wouldn't be an

assumption

to say that one of those two people are scum, it would be an

educated guess

.

That's different. There, it's usually been proven that doc CCs=one of them is maf. Here, your talking about the mind of a person and I doubt you know how snow bunny thinks.

[chesskid3]

updated list time. town--> scum

CK
Vezok
ThAdmiral
Doombunny9
Katsuki
gandalf
Adumbro
andrew94
malthusis
Dark Horse
Narsis

Post or Die: RBT

[Dark Horse]

Hi my name is darkhorse and I like to line up lynches.

He claimed dayvig. Why would the maf

not

go for him?

*forgot to take doc/BG into consideration, sorry gandalf

OH DRAT, SOMEONE THINKS CHESS IS TOWN. PANIC MODE ENGAGE. ATTACK THE LOGIC! ATTACK!

Just pointing out how it isn't good logic for clearing someone.

[chesskid3]

Gandalf your dayvig will make this a lot easier. Shoot any of RBT,Narsis,Dark Horse,Malthusis, then we'll lynch another from there, maybe vig another one at night, and then get the last one tomorrow?

PEDIT: Don't softclaim, please?

[ThAdmiral]

That's different. There, it's usually been proven that doc CCs=one of them is maf. Here, your talking about the mind of a person and I doubt you know how snow bunny thinks.

Ok probably not quite so cut and dry as that other situation.
Let me put it a more reasonable way: it is

highly likely

that chess does indeed have a no-lynch ability, therefore it is

highly unlikely

that chess is scum.

[chesskid3]

Or you know instead of going back for seconds of WIFOM stew we could just look at my play and notice I'm obvtown. Cool.

Moooooooooooving along....ThAdmiral, you've been focused on Doom and Dark all game (and while I agree that one of them is scum), you should look at some other people.

Thoughts on Narsis and Malthusis, and thoughts on the RBT wagon?

[Dark Horse]

That's different. There, it's usually been proven that doc CCs=one of them is maf. Here, your talking about the mind of a person and I doubt you know how snow bunny thinks.

Ok probably not quite so cut and dry as that other situation.
Let me put it a more reasonable way: it is

highly likely

that chess does indeed have a no-lynch ability, therefore it is

highly unlikely

that chess is scum.

the fact that chess as a NL ability is something tat I believe. However, why would a townsperson have such an anti-town role?

[chesskid3]

Better question: why would a nontownsperson not use it instantly on D1? That was not moving along, though.

Since I'm never getting lynched, I'm never using it, and therefore we can all pretend it doesn't exist and get back to the game.

DarkHorse, since you have nothing better to do, how do you feel about Katsuki?

[Dark Horse]

Better question: why would a nontownsperson not use it instantly on D1? That was not moving along, though.

Because he could save it for something like lylo?

DarkHorse, since you have nothing better to do, how do you feel about Katsuki?

Null read, nothing hasn't really popped out on me

inb4somebodyshowsmescummykatsukiposts

[chesskid3]

Nah, Katsuki is town.

Was just wondering if you were going to take a stance on anyone who isn't me.

[Dark Horse]

My FoS is RBt, due to lack of content.

Thought you might want to know that, before you judge me.

[andrew94]

studying for exam, ,,,

[Doombunny9]

err, so ppl pro at D and D can just make up stuff./..

You realize no one corrected me, Gandalf, or chess... Right? So unless you think everyone in town is completely retarded and can't read google anything or is scum then your logic is flawed.

are u saying thats ur ability?
i thought u said u were one shot no lynch

So you beleived that chess had a magic ability that would literally make everyone nausiated? Come on... its flavor XD

errr, HOW DOES THAT GOT TO DO WITH NO LYNCH

This is rediculous... Lets look back at the wiki page for nausiated that chess provided

Experiencing stomach distress. Nauseated creatures are unable to attack, cast spells, concentrate on spells,

or do anything else requiring attention. The only action such a character can take is a single move action per turn.

Think moar kthx

Ok you seem to have misunderstood me again. This time I'm blaming you.

Alright I'm done arguing with you about this trivial thing XD Regardless of the fact that "Combining the tells" does not mean "Your points are invalid" I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.

My PROBLEM is with the fact that I believe hardly any of them are decent tells AT ALL; that you intended to fool people in to thinking you had a decent case by putting down a lot of points, even though the points weren't valid.

I beleive I've defended myself about this. Unless you plan on supporting what you've just said you have no case here.

It ties in to my theory that you didn't have a strong case. I feel like if you had a strong case against someone you would be much more likely to remember it.

Please direct yourself to post 432.

this thred needs moar RBT

[ThAdmiral]

Thoughts on Narsis and Malthusis, and thoughts on the RBT wagon?

Narsis - has seemed alright to me. Made sense for the most part.
Malthusis - more or less the same.

RBT wagon - was considering getting on it but it seems rbt is going to act the same way regardless and I can't be bothered trying to argue a stubborn lurker in to providing more content.

the fact that chess as a NL ability is something tat I believe. However, why would a townsperson have such an anti-town role?

Some would say a night-kill is primarily an anti-town role, but obviously vigs exist. It all depends on how you use it.
Also I think it is a clever piece of game design as it creates exactly the sort of tension that you are referring to: a town player has a generally anti-town ability - and therefore would be unlikely to use it unless in an interesting situation.
In any case it doesn't make much sense as a scum role. One day less for lylo is

extremely

powerful, and furthermore it serves the same purpose as starting the game with one less town player (which would have been a much simpler and more obvious way to balance the game if it required something like that).

[andrew94]

why are you defending chesskid doom

suspicious