Mini 1070 The Godfather:Hunt for Sollozzo (GAME!)

[Exilon]

GANDALF FOR CHRIST SAKE WHY ARE YOU NOT EXPLAINING YOUR READS.
Guys, I'm still supportive of a Zaj lynch, but I don't want him dead, YET. Consider it a FoS, if you will. I want gandalf to answer first.

[Zajnet]

I assume you mean #358

Please elaborate as to why you think I should be voted.

You assume right. Sorry for that error :s

Your post contains ABSOLUTELY no content, it works to take off some pressure by forcing you to take a stance to which youa ren't willing to commit. You were asked your top scum reads, (basically) and your answer was, simply put, "Gandalf because of what people have been saying so far." It's completely unhelpful, has a bit of parroting, extreme wishy-washiness, and unexplained reads.

You need to do more. Hence the vote. But I do not want you dead. Yet. The pressure is good enough for now.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gandalf

I AM GOING TO SAY THIS AGAIN: SUPPORT YOUR READS.

I wasn't referring to reasons that other people have stated. I was referring to reasons that I've stated:

From D2 readings, without going back over D1, I'd say that Kat is lurking but worse than that IMO is gandalf's active lurking. He's been here, unlike Kat and I, and he has provided no more content than either of us. He has hid behind speculation as to which kill was which, and simply said that either Exilon or RC is scum with no real reasons why.

VOTE: gandalf

[Exilon]

hum.. I see. Well, I can see where you're coming from then. Still, haven't your reads changed throughout Day 2? No more suspicions have grown?

[Zajnet]

hum.. I see. Well, I can see where you're coming from then. Still, haven't your reads changed throughout Day 2? No more suspicions have grown?

I've become more suspicious of you but I can see how you'd think that I was just barning people

I've also become even more suspicious of gandalf for his joining of my wagon with no reasons whatsoever.

I'm slightly suspicious of RC for his dichotomy that results in both kat and FG being possible scum regardless of what I flip, but I still see him as overall town-leaning.

[Andrius]

Votecount 2.4

FakeGod (1): Antihero
Katsuki (1): RedCoyote
gandalf5166 (2): Zajnet, Exilon

Zajnet (4): Katsuki, Wingless, gandalf5166, FakeGod

Not Voting (1): pacman291282

With 9 alive it takes 5 to gun someone down.
Deadline is set at November 23rd, at 5:00pm PST.

[gandalf5166]

GANDALF FOR CHRIST SAKE WHY ARE YOU NOT EXPLAINING YOUR READS.

I can't remember the last time I made a "case".

[Exilon]

No one asked you for cases, we asked you to properly justify a vote and/or reads.. At least that's what I did.
Simply stating "don't like x, y should die" is extremely anti-town and does not help anyone, except scum.

I'm sure you know that.

[Andrius]

Announcement!

I screwed up with the Deadlines for Day Phase.

Now, in the Ruleset for this game, which can be found here, I clearly state that Day Phase deadlines will be set at

two weeks/14 days

. (Article II, Section I)

So far, both Day One and Day Two have been set at

3 week/21 days

deadlines. I forgot about the fact that I changed the rules for this game, because 3 weeks was just too long. (I was wondering why D1 was so long and stale.)

Now, had I not screwed up, the deadline for D2 would be set at

November 16th, (next Tuesday)

. Suddenly shortening the deadline by a week wouldn't be exactly fair to you guys, especially since it is my fault that I forgot a change in my own ruleset.

SO, Deadline still stands. Starting Day Three, deadlines for Day Phases will be set at

2 weeks/14 days

, as they should have been. Be aware that timing yourselves normally, deadline would be in

3 days

.

If you have questions feel free to ask, as always.

-Andrius

[RedCoyote]

Really love this post. If Zaj flips town, look at kat and FG. If Zaj flips scum, still look at kat and FG.

Uh, no. If Zaj is town then both of you are scum, if he's scum then only one of you are. That's a bold prediction. I've disliked Zaj for most of the game, but you are significantly worse given that you were on Bub's wagon. You should thank your lucky stars that everyone loves you.

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@RC: Kat's right. It seems like you already made up your mind that FG/Kat is scum no matter what Zaj flips.

Then why push Zaj lynch at all?

Zajnet and Kat are completely ignoring the game, despite the Mod telling us all that the game has started. It figures.

As far as I'm concerned, we could lynch both of these people.

Go back to my earlier post.

I wanted Kat first, but, failing that, Zaj and you were next in line. I'm pushing Zaj because I've been pushing Kat forever and no one wants to give me a hand.

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If Zaj doesn't claim in his next post I'm voting him btw.

[Wingless]

I'd be happy to hear all of your reads Gandalf and Zajnet(there are a few left).
Zajnet, you should really claim something because RC seems to be serious and the deadline is close.
Exilon: explain your vote on gandalf. Why is gandalf a better target?
I don't really like that miller claim, by the way. What happens if he's scum? We can't distinguish the miller and the scum case.

[Exilon]

I already explained it, Wingless. Gandalf is being extremely anti-town by not providing any information or explanation on his reads.

[gandalf5166]

I don't really like that miller claim, by the way. What happens if he's scum? We can't distinguish the miller and the scum case.

This is the case with every miller. I should probably be vigged at some point. But guess what: In games without cops, people find out if people are scum without cops all the time. Use your brain.

[Wingless]

Why wigged? Supposing there are more than 1 one scum, left(very likely), they control the lynches better than the vigkills. Your lynch would be a bit better I think.

[gandalf5166]

Wait..... so you're saying that since scum can contribute to my lynch, I should be lynched instead of vigged? Ah-no.

[FakeGod]

The thing is, the site meta here with millers is that they claim right away that they're millers, and vigs take them out early on.
This way, cops won't waste investigations, and town won't waste a lynch on them.

Unless a vig steps forward and says "I tried to kill Gandalf last night, nothing happened." I believe his claim.
And if you are a vig, shoot gandalf plz.

Zajnet isn't back yet, huh.

[Zajnet]

I still don't see any merit to the argument against me, but I'll claim.

I'm Rocco Lampone, vanilla townie. I'm fairly new to the Corleone family, and I'm happy with my situation. I serve Pete Clemencza, and have no special abilities to speak of because I'm so new to the family.

[gandalf5166]

That was DANGEROUSLY close to role PM quoting. I don't wanna be a bummer, but

Andy, make sure you saw the above post. If he just copy-and-pasted his role PM like I think he did, modkill him.

[Andrius]

Andy, make sure you saw the above post. If he just copy-and-pasted his role PM like I think he did, modkill him.

I

do

read my games, gandalf.

-Andy

[gandalf5166]

Andy, make sure you saw the above post. If he just copy-and-pasted his role PM like I think he did, modkill him.

I

do

read my games, gandalf.

-Andy

Just wanted to make sure. I skim sometimes.

[Andrius]

Just wanted to make sure. I skim sometimes.

I know, this game is going really fast; I don't think I can read all the posts.

-Andy

Announcement!

Prods will go out tomorrow.
Antihero, pacman, and Katsuki will receive prods tomorrow if they don't post by then.

[gandalf5166]

Yeah, that pretty much confirms that Zaj is scum. If that's actually legitimately his role, he definitely would have been mod-killed. Nice fake claim though. Did Andy supply that to you, or did you write it up yourself?

[Zajnet]

Yeah, that pretty much confirms that Zaj is scum. If that's actually legitimately his role, he definitely would have been mod-killed. Nice fake claim though. Did Andy supply that to you, or did you write it up yourself?

Do you realize how asinine that comment is? I'll quote my PM at the end of the game so you can see that that was a lot of paraphrasing. That looks nothing like my PM.

[Katsuki]

Gandalf, is this a new meta of yours or what?

Also, claimed millers do not necessarily make them town (millers). It's pretty much a null-tell as to their actual alignment/role (eg. Fate).

[Katsuki]

Also love how every single one of RCs posts on zajnet essentially follows the template of "I'd love Kat first, BUT IM GOING ALONG WITH ZAJNET ONLY AS A LAST RESORT FOLKS! BE SURE ITS PERFECTLY CLEAR TO YOU GUYS THAT I MEAN, L-A-S-T R-E-S-O-R-T!!!!!!"

Seriously. Your posts are now just words expressing your desire for Kat scum with next to no scumhunting.
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As for my last post regarding Gandalf, he's playing much differently than how I've observed him in the past. Just putting that out there.

[RedCoyote]

Seriously. Your posts are now just words expressing your desire for Kat scum with next to no scumhunting.

How can I scumhunt when you, Zaj, Antihero, Exilon, and pacman go for several days without posting? What scumhunting have you done? "RC is picking on me... misrep!", "SC is picking on me... misrep!", etc. I mean, what else am I supposed to say here? I've tried multiple times to bitch everyone out about activity, but everyone seems content on keeping it this way.

Additionally, I don't know how I'm expressing any "last resort" theme. I'm making it clear you're still the best lynch for today, but I have no problem with lynching Zaj either.

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I don't buy Zaj's claim. gandalf is pretty much on the money. It sounds very fake. Rocco Lampone is indeed a character, but he's kind of a minor role.

Unvote

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vote: Zajnet