Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Ythan]

2. Ythan, they've been largely inactive all day. Doesn't help that a large number of people are inactive. This presents lots of noise where there shouldn't be since lurker-scum blends with anti-town lurkers.

And yet you singled them out and said that they were more or less hiding from your attack when that is clearly not the case.

[DTMaster]

"face palm" Nikanor claimed he is involved in Untrod's death (i.e. Nikanor as the voice soft claimed for the mason group) please before you do any more, just say that you can confirm 2 NKs were claimed in thread that are accurate to your knowledge (i,e. assuming Aikage is telling the truth). That's all I need to know.

It may or may not influence the outcome depending on what other people's night actions were but it's something to consider while we scum hunt (that we might have a missing kill that is)

[DTMaster]

It's because I am attacking them. For example: Mothrax ignored much of my points as I quoted against him. Thus I quoted them again for him to read and respond to. Considering they reached the prod limit again, I'd say sufficient time has passed between their last post and now that there should have been more.

Please, let's argue with the mod confirmed people who hadn't posted recently:

Prodding Chronopie, Aikage, mothrax, Blooderection, and Dekes. Still looking for a replacement for jenniwren.
CAN YOU GUYS PLEASE TELL YOUR FRIENDS WE NEED A REPLACEMENT I MEAN SERIOUSLY.

[DTMaster]

I should really include sarcasm tags. Anyways. Time to go over Aikage, and Dekes like I said a billion times but only did a few :<.

[DTMaster]

Also it's almost a week since the last post between Dekes and Moth. I want to see more since my reiteration on Friday (so I concede that there hasn't been a lot of time between my post and for them to respond to, only like 3 DAYS). A lot happened in a week and they haven't done much in it.

[Reckamonic]

Knight of Cydonia replaces Jenniwren!

[Ythan]

I'm still criticizing your attempt to spin their flakiness as avoiding your argument.

[DTMaster]

Do I need to quote time stamps for Mothrax in regards to my post? If you go back I repeated my arguments again for him to post on. V.V. I'm giving them a chance to post. Their flakiness is compounding frustration on the issue.

The argument applies to Mothrax more then Dekes since Mothrax missed my post in the time frame while my Dekes case got buried in my catchup.

[mothrax]

DTM I responded to your post... You must have missed it...

Also, note my sig... Requesting replacement, sorry guys.

[Ythan]

Moth if that's true then he obviously hasn't seen it. Quit being difficult and point it out, and if you really have then it will settle it.

[mothrax]

@DTM: blatant misrep: What niknanor was asking for was chrono/sub outing any neigbor who was not attacking another neighbor and saying that made them obv-scum. I disagree. In your post you hit on exactly what I was trying to say, which is that just because a person has not outright attacked another player does not mean they are not scumhunting/ have a scum read on one of these people.

Here you go.
If that isn't satisfactory, get off your high horse and get over it. I'm getting really tired of people like you.

[DTMaster]

Except you ignored these parts in regards to the neighbor issue when you stated that it's statistically better to focus outside the neighbourhood.

a. It's not a better probability to address outside the neighborhood. Thus you are wrong.
b. The issue still stands within the neighborhood regardless of numbers pointed in a. Why should we ignore this?
c. Why can't we do both and scumhunt within and outside the group? I've done both when I attacked Substrike, defended Chrono, and attacked people outside of the two claimed neighbours (i.e. you, Dekes, Chess, Nikanor, etc)

And I also counted that statement with:

Townies would scum hunt their scum reads regardless of neighbourhood status. . I agree with one thing about Nikanor: If a neighbour is town, he is likely to publically show his suspicions throughout the game. This includes scumhunting in the neighbourhood (even if this is a minor read he'd scum hunt multiple people at once). Townies do not, absolutely do not withhold scum-reads and do nothing about it . They attack, make use of the thread, and if they have a role make use of that.

Why would a townie not publically scum hunt their reads?

. It's counter intuitive to hide reads.

I read your post. I responded. Where is mine good sir.

[DTMaster]

EBWOP: Technically you didn't say it was statistically better, but that it was just better to focus outside. This quote from you:

As for bigger scum to fry, I meant that there seems to be a focus on solely the neighbors when there is a high probability that there is other scum out there and in a vanillaless game the probability that they are more powerful than the neighbors is also high.

Though that last statement is kind of weird now that I think about it since if scum were PRs, it would be true that they are more powerful then sleeper roles which is true.

I also wasn't clear on a point. If you don't get replaced by then, can you clarify how it's townie to withhold your reads?

[DTMaster]

Urk, if you don't get replaced by then :<.

[mothrax]

Step 1: Nikanor: if a neighbor hasn't publicly attacked another neighbor they are scum[
step 2: me: not true
Step 3: DTM why would you not scumhunt your reads?

There are different ways of scumhunting, mafia is a game of finesse as well as aggression. It's called information gathering, establishing stronger reads, etc.

[mothrax]

Also, in a block of 6 out of 32, the scum are going to try extra hard to blend in and not piss anyone off, town can use this to there advantage to organize the neighbor group. In doing so, they get a block of at least 4 townies.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Town: LL, Nikanor, RayFrost
Scum: Substrike, BE, lurkers

Unvote, vote BE

[Nikanor]

I'm not a vig. I am Farore. The nature of my role, if not my role itself, should be obvious to anyone who knows the least bit about Farore.

I don't really want to read anything. I still want BE dead.

[Ythan]

I'm not a vig. I am Farore. The nature of my role, if not my role itself, should be obvious to anyone who knows the least bit about Farore.

I don't really want to read anything. I still want BE dead.

God damn you. I think. Maybe.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Okay, so I have two shorter games that I'm prioritising my catch-up on, but I will be getting to this as soon as possible. Would greatly appreciate a brief recap, and if someone could tell me if my predecessor claimed, that'd be good.

[vezokpiraka]

YAY.
KoC is scum. Why would a townie want to know what his predecessor claimed?

unvote
vote Knight of Cydonia

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Not what Vezok, /IF/.

Read properly next time.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm not a vig. I am Farore. The nature of my role, if not my role itself, should be obvious to anyone who knows the least bit about Farore.

I don't really want to read anything. I still want BE dead.

God damn you. I think. Maybe.

It's funny Ythan, because I think out of everyone here, you are the one who woul know what his power is.

[Ythan]

I'm not a vig. I am Farore. The nature of my role, if not my role itself, should be obvious to anyone who knows the least bit about Farore.

I don't really want to read anything. I still want BE dead.

God damn you. I think. Maybe.

It's funny Ythan, because I think out of everyone here, you are the one who woul know what his power is.

I think that out of everyone here you claimed masons would probably know best. I have a guess but there's no way I can be sure. Duh.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I meant besides the other masons xD