Mini #1081 - SitMOA Mafia (Endgame... Congrats, winners!)

[Doombunny9]

1. I explained it immediately after Narsis responded, no?

Your initial refusal to explain it. I should have made that more clear (Even though you did answer, it doesn't erase the mark against you)

2. ....Show me a question I haven't answered?

The "Why choose Narsis for your reaction vote" one. Again, even though you answered doesn't erase the mark.

3. OMG MY CASE IS "WEAK" ON PAGE 7 OF DAY 1? OMG WAT SHOULD I DO? ZOMG SUICIDE IRL PL0X?

If you can't find anything good in seven pages then you're not trying hard enough.

@Adumbro- I asked you a question a while back, answer it.

@chess and doom: Who are your top scumpicks and townpicks, and why?

Scumpicks- You (will get into it later in this post) then chess, then Andrew
Townpicks- Nice try scumz

Let him live. Let's wagon a scum like malthusis.
vote matlhusis

No explaination! YAY!

Scum:

leaning scum:

Wow! You can't even find ONE person who you think is even slightly scum! You're on a roll!

Unvote, Vote: Adumbro

1. For random voting after the RVS was over which signalled that she wasn't even reading the thread.
2. Asking for townpicks. WTF?
3. A lack of any scumhunting whatsoever (unless you count "What are your scumpicks and townpicks?")
4. for having only FUCKING SMALLISH VIBES. I mean come on... We're on page seven. You should have SOMETHING by now.

[Doombunny9]

5. For previous lurking

[Snow_Bunny]

Votecount - Discussion heats up

gandalf5166 (0) -
malthusis (2) - andrew94, vezokpiraka
Riceballtail (0) -
ThAdmiral (0) -
Narsis (1) - chesskid3
Dark Horse (0) -
chesskid3 (2) - Dark Horse, gandalf5166
Doombunny9 (0) -
vezokpiraka (2) - Riceballtail, Narsis
andrew94 (0) -
Katsuki (0) -
AdumbroDeus (2) - Katsuki, Doombunny9

Not voting (3) - malthusis, ThAdmiral, AdumbroDeus

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline is on at November 22nd midnight.

[chesskid3]

Yeah, no, you're not going to get any support for a wagon on me, so I'm not going to bother correcting your obvious logical fallacies.

Anybody else unsatisfied with Narsis's answers?

[gandalf5166]

Wow lol. I love how chess posted town reads without any explanation and no scumreads. Yeah, making town lists is pretty easy for scum, isn't it? And then when they flip town, you can just say "I told you so". And I liked how you threw in your scumbuddy too.

[Dark Horse]

Yeah, no, you're not going to get any support for a wagon on me, so I'm not going to bother correcting your obvious logical fallacies.

Anybody else unsatisfied with Narsis's answers?

That was a very contributive post.

[malthusis]

@Chess/Malt- Why are we still talking about the overness of the RVS? It's over. We can all agree on that. It doesn't matter when it was over anymore.

It's just that something really rubs me about the way you phrased your role. I've been in quite a few Mind Screw/Weird Role games where the mod is indeed a role. It's practically a rule of thumb that a mod has to be neutral or self aligned if they are playing for many reasons such as mod bias and the like. The fact that a mod would be aligned with player has me scratching my head on how that could possibly work out....

Are you actually buying this Kat obvjoke? Come on now.

........



*bangs head on wall repeatedly*

I took it seriously, am I absolutely retarded?

[andrew94]

then doom, explain why u voted for me becos i dont know what 'mason' is, when it was clearly a joke vote for kat

[Doombunny9]

I took it seriously, am I absolutely retarded?

I wouldn't go that far but I would say you're pretty gullible XD

then doom, explain why u voted for me becos i dont know what 'mason' is, when it was clearly a joke vote for kat

If you read my second post (Technically third if you count my confirm post) I say that my vote was me thinking the RVS was still going on because of all the "wtf" votes

[Riceballtail]

How do you feel about Vren and RBT, both of whom have yet to post besides confirming? (and in RBT's case one other post in which he votes for a player who is not in the game)

Thoughts?

You should pay more attention.

Also, I'm not voting someone who's not in the game.

[chesskid3]

Gandalf, you went 0/2. As I have clearly indicated, Narsis is my highest suspect as of now (suspecting none of the current 5 people is ridiculous, there's probably one scum in there (most likely in Dark/Doom), and being suspicious of the least active non-flaking people is a cop out, imo).

PEDIT: RBT, who is VP then?

[Riceballtail]

Read post 202?

Read this game at all?

[chesskid3]

VP is Vezok apparently, mmkay.

Now that you're here, how about you actually contribute content and stop being a fucking useless waste of a slot?

[Narsis]

Gandalf, you went 0/2. As I have clearly indicated, Narsis is my highest suspect as of now (suspecting none of the current 5 people is ridiculous, there's probably one scum in there (most likely in Dark/Doom), and being suspicious of the least active non-flaking people is a cop out, imo).

PEDIT: RBT, who is VP then?

that's because at this point in the game i think that most likely most of the scum will be in the group of lurkers/less active people. it's far easier to not have to contribute at all then to actually do something where you might get caught.

[chesskid3]

From my experience, at most 1 scum will do that. Which leaves 2 more (unless this is a 9-2-1, and even then there should be 2 more "scum"), any thoughts on who they might be?

[vezokpiraka]

Please Guys and Gals.

I am Vez, vezo, vezok or whatever but not VP.


Scum picks:
Malthusius(Gut read. I don't like the voice he speaks in. He is just an observer from what I see. )
DoomBunny( He is trying to make a case of 5 points on a person who barely posted but actualy posted good stuff)

[ThAdmiral]

Now the rvs is over :teach:

This is truth. It lasted over 100 posts in this game which is impressive and helps with the reread as it is more I can skip over.

I'm getting town vibes from chess. He is putting himself out there early. And, unsurprisingly, is getting attacked for it.

Wow lol. I love how chess posted town reads without any explanation and no scumreads. Yeah, making town lists is pretty easy for scum, isn't it? And then when they flip town, you can just say "I told you so". And I liked how you threw in your scumbuddy too.

This is just plain mudslinging.

But I think doombunny is most likely scum.

vote: doombunny

I'll put my reasons in a list just for you doombunny:
1. For the backtracking chesskid pointed out in post 151.
2. For having weak reasons to vote someone.
3. For making mountains out of molehills to make reasons to vote someone look better than they are.
4. For using lists with lots of points on it to make it seem like they have a much better case than they actually have!

[ThAdmiral]

@ vp: I had a look through some of your other posts in other games and I have some serious questions for you:
- Why post at all if you are going to post so little and have almost zero content?
- how do you have fun playing this game (as in mafia)?
- Is your playstyle really to say as little as possible?
- Why?

I don't mean to sound harsh but I just want you to come out of your shell a little.

[Doombunny9]

DoomBunny( He is trying to make a case of 5 points on a person who barely posted but actualy posted good stuff)

*Looks at AD's posts*
*Notices lack of any good things*
*lolz at your mistake*

1. For the backtracking chesskid pointed out in post 151.

I'm going to tell you the same thing I told chess. Actually, I hate having to type things up all over again. I'm going to direct you to the post. I'll even be nice enough to give you the post number. (It's iso #10. Thanks for playing)

2. For having weak reasons to vote someone.

Explain.

3. For making mountains out of molehills to make reasons to vote someone look better than they are.
4. For using lists with lots of points on it to make it seem like they have a much better case than they actually have!

Why are these the same thing? The only one making mountains out of molehills is you sir.
Also, how the hell are bulletted lists scummy? This has got to be the most insane thing I've heard this game that they were serious about.

[AdumbroDeus]

@Adumbro- I asked you a question a while back, answer it.

Where?

Quote and link to post please.

@chess and doom: Who are your top scumpicks and townpicks, and why?

Scumpicks- You (will get into it later in this post) then chess, then Andrew
Townpicks- Nice try scumz

...

Wait, you think asking you to take stances IS SCUMMY?

*facepalm*

Townpicks and scumpicks are important for stance analysis and useful information for town.

Wow! You can't even find ONE person who you think is even slightly scum! You're on a roll!

Reread... I explicitly put people on the wrong side of null and explained why, cause yea, nobody stands out to me as scummy enough to push further.

1. For random voting after the RVS was over which signalled that she wasn't even reading the thread.

This was the last post before mine...

mr gandalf is pissed at me cos i pwned him in hobbits doctor mafia = =

You seemed under the mistaken impression that RVS was over while most of the thread seemed to disagree, however it wasn't worth quibbling over so I didn't bother arguing with you.

2. Asking for townpicks. WTF?

Good God...

3. A lack of any scumhunting whatsoever (unless you count "What are your scumpicks and townpicks?")

Asking question isn't how you scumhunt?

Then how DO you scumhunt praytell?

4. for having only FUCKING SMALLISH VIBES. I mean come on... We're on page seven. You should have SOMETHING by now.

Nobody's made a large enough slip to push them further then that.

5. For previous lurking

There IS a v/la thread you know, you'd do well to read it prior to accusing people of lurking.




Another dumbtown read, this might just be a process of elimination game.

@Gandolf:

Still waiting for my answer.

leaning town:
Katsuki (good contribution, good questions, seems town so far)

i'm not quite seeing how Katsuki's contribution has been particularly good so far.

Question, why?

How do you feel about Vren and RBT, both of whom have yet to post besides confirming? (and in RBT's case one other post in which he votes for a player who is not in the game)

Thoughts?

You should pay more attention.

Also, I'm not voting someone who's not in the game.

You planning on answering my question and giving some town/scum picks? Also, I didn't ask for this initially but some explanations please?

[chesskid3]

I'm pretty close to advocating a Policy Lynch on RBT.

Someone vig him tonite pl0x.

[Narsis]

leaning town:
Katsuki (good contribution, good questions, seems town so far)

i'm not quite seeing how Katsuki's contribution has been particularly good so far.

Question, why?

because his ISO's #11 and #15 are the only posts with any real content that isnt essentially a re-statment of things already said.

[andrew94]

adum are u saying this to me: You seemed under the mistaken impression that RVS was over while most of the thread seemed to disagree, however it wasn't worth quibbling over so I didn't bother arguing with you.

or just this: This was the last post before mine...


getting town reads is useless, as it can eliminate the process of elimination, i dont know why gandalf is kicking such a fuss about it

[ThAdmiral]

I'm going to tell you the same thing I told chess. Actually, I hate having to type things up all over again. I'm going to direct you to the post. I'll even be nice enough to give you the post number. (It's iso #10. Thanks for playing)

@Chess- At first I was telling you to read the thread and stuff because that was before you admitted the RVS was over. I started saying that we should stop talking about the RVS because you finally said that the RVS was over and everyone at that point could agree on it. Meaning there was no point about arguing about it anymore. Next time think first, then post

But you weren't just telling him to read the thread. You voted him for it:

Vote: Chess

fo' rlz for not even reading the thread (or else he'd know that RVS was over), thinking the RVS was still going despite the fo' srz votes, and for lack of any explainations.

And then you further used it to justify your vote:

RVS is not over. Tsk tsk.

We're still in RVS now

READ THE THREAD DAMNIT! These posts just made me a lot happier with my vote.

Why is not reading the thread scummy? How does not reading the thread help someone if they are scum?

It is a bs reason to vote someone, and an even more bs reason to justify your vote on someone.

2. For having weak reasons to vote someone.

Explain.

3. For making mountains out of molehills to make reasons to vote someone look better than they are.
4. For using lists with lots of points on it to make it seem like they have a much better case than they actually have!

Why are these the same thing? The only one making mountains out of molehills is you sir.
Also, how the hell are bulletted lists scummy? This has got to be the most insane thing I've heard this game that they were serious about.

Actually all of the last three points on my list were essentially the same, or at least in the same ballpark, and that is the point - when you write a list like you did it makes it seem you have more evidence than you do against someone, it is a way to manufacture weight behind your reasoning especially when you know the reasoning is weak.

getting town reads is useless,

as it can eliminate the process of elimination

, i dont know why gandalf is kicking such a fuss about it

Can you explain this?

[andrew94]

oops lol i made a mistake

getting town reads is useful, as there is the process of elimination = =