StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare IIIS: The Dungeon (Game over)

[Antihero]

NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN STRANGER.

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT. >.<

Hey, watch your f@#$ing language.

VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

[Antihero]

LLD - E 'la RVS, affrontarla.

Domande per le persone che hanno giocato le prime due partite di questa forma -
Sono ruoli tipicamente rivelato sulla morte e che è stato un qualche tipo di capacità custode, o sono ruoli non rivelato?
Inoltre, circa il modo in bastardo devo aspettare che questo gioco sia?

LLD - It 's the RVS, deal with it.

Questions for people who played the first two games of this form -
Roles are typically found on death and it was some kind of caretaker capacity, or roles are not revealed?
In addition, about the way I expect that this bastard game is?

I'm guessing caretaker = janitor? Yes, I believe that's what happened here (SC didn't say anything about this game being no-reveal).

Your message to LLD confuses me. What are you trying to say?

[Antihero]

google translate

[Antihero]

I did not like his answer to the second question about her vote. Honestly I've seen people go up halfway to RVS lynched during the first, and then the car disappears or whether they fit properly and that the pressure stays on.

I'm also using Google translator

I'm not going to lie, this is pretty funny.

I'm assuming car=wagon?

That doesn't make any sense to me, does anyone else who gets this translation get what chesskid's logic is?

Also, chesskid, please don't spam.

[Antihero]

Antitown? My name's Antihero.

How does it follow from your reasoning that LLD is more likely to be scum?

[Antihero]

I do not have a vote, so when I said it's more likely that foam? I said I did not like his answer.

Apologies on the name.

I'm assuming foam=scum?

You actually didn't say this initially (you told LLD to "deal with it"), but when I asked for more info, you said you "didn't like it." That's why I asked you why questioning the second vote makes LLD scummier.

[Antihero]

no no no no
I said that I will not vote for her

How does this address anything?

Does "not like" = "makes me think she's scum"? If not, please explain the difference.

[Antihero]

I can see this is going to get frustrating.

and you just realized this?

I did not like his reaction, but it's tiny and worthless vote for her. I like my vote RVS for now.

lolwat? So you see something you don't like, but you're willing to stick with your crappy RVS vote?

I'm /in for the chesskid wagon.

UNVOTE: LLD
VOTE: chesskid3

[Antihero]

Oh, for god's sake. She's pretty dense, is not it.

Not appreciate what he did is not equivalent to thinking is scum because you did it.

I take that as a novice to say, and not a scum tell. My point was to help her.

Even your over-reaction is noted.

I don't know who you're trying to call "dense," but I'll let that go.

Let's go over the sequence of events:

• Mafuyu voted LLD after I voted LLD
  
• LLD said "...?" after mafuyu did this.
  
• You told LLD to "deal with it" because it's the RVS.
  
• When I asked you what you meant, you said you "didn't like" LLD questioning mafuyu's vote because [insert reason I still don't understand]. You do see why I think the diction of that post indicates suspicion, right?
  
• Now, you're saying something about wanting to "help LLD."

Now, tell me what I'm over reacting to.

Why is the city saying. I am noticing the reaction, but I think it's common.

I'm assuming city saying=town tell.

[Antihero]

Chesskid, if you find his reaction excessive, why are you still holding onto your RVS vote?

*her

Oh, and chesskid was talking about me. The world doesn't revolve around you, you know. :p

[Antihero]

this would be the reaction

There is no appeal to the emotions in this, among other things.
If I had not formed a town attempt to read, on the basis of interaction, I switched my vote to you.

In essence, foam / scum entire city can be found by how they behave - are usually more defensive because they know that the city is the city while the city is sending out probes everywhere to hear people. Overreact to these probes and also for events that occur are a particular favorite of mine.

Come, answer me this, why you feel the need to call my lousy RVS vote?
You see my point?

Probably not, since this will be confused to hell.

XD That last line is the clearest thing in this post.

RVS votes are inherently crappy, thus the label "RANDOM voting stage."

[Antihero]

I like waffles.

vote: Parama

By the way, random votes at this point = epicfail

At least give your opinion on the chesskid/me debate so far.

[Antihero]

@NC: Could you please specifically point out the chesskid hypocrisy? Also, what do you think about Baby Spice and Tasky's first posts?

[Antihero]

@Stove: I disagree with your assessment of NC's vote, but I'll wait for his response.

@Nobody Special: You don't have to be insulting.

[Antihero]

@Nobody Special: You don't have to be insulting.

...and you don't have to actively lurk either.

[Antihero]

@Baby spice: ... so? What did you learn from this reaction?

Preview edit: damn you, stove!

I don't know about that since it got a reaction.

Orly.

And what have you learned from the "reaction"?

@sakshijain:

For a while, I wondered why there was an LLD wagon. A quick look at her ISO answered that for me. I don't see anything except for quasi-OMGUS self defense and active lurking. This is a good wagon.

UNVOTE: chesskid3
VOTE: Lady Lamdadelta

[Antihero]

I don't know about that since it got a reaction.

Orly.

And what have you learned from the "reaction"?

That you and Parama are both scum.

unvote

Mindread: Baby Spice

[Antihero]

The only two differences between this game and StrangerCoug's Worst Nightmare III: Dreamland Castle is Under Siege are that

a different setup is in play

and SpyreX is the backup mod.

Rolefishing is bad.

[Antihero]

Mindread: Baby Spice

OH LOL.

I'm glad you liked my attempt at humor, but is this all you have to say?

Hey NS,

the "mafia game" has started. You can start posting again now.

[Antihero]

Stop telling me what to do, I don't play according to other people's whims.

Also, I fully agree with Espeo -- this is going to be one frakking hard game. (Plus, I feel all fish-out-of-waterish -- I wasn't in SWNIII.)

Reck/dram, am I, really? I'm not trying to be. Sorry.

unvote

Vote: Lady Greekletters

OK... so NS is scum.

[Antihero]

UNVOTE: Lady Lamdadelta
VOTE: Nobody Special

[Antihero]

... *slaps self* Yes, this is very true, Parama.

I was going to say NS deserves some pressure because I kind of get a bus vibe off of him as well, but that's stupid because it takes pressure off scumLLD while adding little pressure onto scumNS (I forgot this game was large where single votes on D1 don't count that much... )

UNVOTE: Nobody Special
VOTE: Lady Lamdadelta

However, with that said, NS is scummy.

First off, I'm not trying to control you, NS. You can see why I'm insulted by you calling the first five pages (which I frequently posted in) a bunch of "dickwaving," right?

But that's not the scummy part. The scummy part is the whole bunch of active lurking followed by the awkward LLD L-2 vote.

Preview edit: @Baby Spice: I think this post answers your question.

[Antihero]

You can see why I'm insulted by you calling the first five pages (which I frequently posted in) a bunch of "dickwaving," right?

Nope. Which part, exactly, offends you?

*sigh* I guess it's not that important.

So wait... you unvote because of a VT claim? nice.

Unvote: Parama
Vote: LLD

Wait...what? This LLD wagon hop is really weird.

[Antihero]

mmmmm... some of these LLD votes look dubious at best. Let's review the wagoners.

Mafuyu, Parama, Me=Weird, Antihero, Twomz, Reckamonic,

Nero Cain

, Nobody Special, chesskid3, Blooderection

Mafuyu

: RVS vote and kept it on, I haven't seen a reason yet; I have seen a bunch of active lurking, though. IGMEOY

Parama

: While the initial scumread isn't backed up, Parama does give implicit reasons for the LLD vote. I'm getting townvibes from him so far, so I think this is a good vote.

Me=Weird

: The vote is backed up with solid reasons. I'm thinking Me=Weird is town too.

Antihero

: I supported my vote with legit reaons.

Twomz

: Not sure what to make of this one. The vote isn't backed up, but that doesn't stick out in his ISO...

Reckamonic

: The buddying with parama is sending up a few red flags for me. This wagon hop is scummy.

Nobody Special

: Criticizes the first few pages of discussion, and then actively lurks, throwing an unexplained LLD vote in there. This wagon hop is scummy as well.

chesskid3

: I don't see a good reason with your vote. In fact, I think we left our first few pages argument at "I wasn't saying LLD was more likely to be scum, I was just helping her out." IGMEOY too.

Blooderection

: Misrepresentation of Espeonage + the awkward wagon hop = scummy; to me, this looks like scum eager to get to a lynch, which gives me some qualms with an LLD lynch...

Thinking back to NC's last post, I wonder who he was really bussing: LLD or chesskid? His earlier chesskid vote was pretty poorly supported.

Call it vote hopping if you want, but I have to think about this LLD wagon some more. I can't just sheep.

UNVOTE: Lady Lamdadelta

Preview Edit:

So you're saying we shouldn't lynch a VT claim day 1? That's funny... because usually we don't lynch claimed cops and shit.

gg.

No, that's not what I'm saying at all. Your vote relies on Espeonage being scum, which I don't think is the case (given NC's comments on him). Either that, or it relies on the premise of "lynch LLD because she claimed VT," which is a pretty flimsy argument to me.

Another preview edit:

LLD, please, I'd like to hear your take on the wagon.

[Antihero]

...still waiting on the reason for your vote that doesn't have to do with the VT claim, blooderection.

@Lady Lamdadelta: IGMEOY = I've got my eye on you

Now, how about people not on your wagon? Whether or not you're town, I'm thinking the entire scumteam wouldn't want to be caught on your wagon. Anyone else stick out to you?

Preview edit:

NS, it's not game related. You finagling it into something to "note for later" is reaching.

[Antihero]

...still waiting on the reason for your vote that doesn't have to do with the VT claim, blooderection.

The wagon obviously escalated meaning that some if not several people saw her as scum. A VT claim is not a claim that should derail a would be valid lynch.

The fact that others do

not

want to lynch her based on that claim in my opinion is scummy

.

...and who are these "others"?

[Antihero]

...still waiting on the reason for your vote that doesn't have to do with the VT claim, blooderection.

The wagon obviously escalated meaning that some if not several people saw her as scum. A VT claim is not a claim that should derail a would be valid lynch.

The fact that others do

not

want to lynch her based on that claim in my opinion is scummy

.

...and who are these "others"?

Whoever unvoted.

I unvoted, and I don't think we should not lynch LLD because of the VT claim. I don't think we should lynch LLD because a few of her wagoners are really scummy, including you.

There's no one who doesn't want to lynch LLD because of the VT claim. Now you're just pulling stuff out of thin air.

VOTE: Blooderection

[Antihero]

Don't think there's enough to go on yet.

>9 pages

+ a scum flip

>Not enough to go on

???

yeah Baby Spice is also scum

fixed

[Antihero]

I unvoted, and I don't think we should not lynch LLD because of the VT claim. I don't think we should lynch LLD because a few of her wagoners are really scummy, including you.

There's no one who doesn't want to lynch LLD because of the VT claim. Now you're just pulling stuff out of thin air.

VOTE: Blooderection

So why exactly did you unvote then? because of people jumping on the wagon? Specifically me?

Yep. You, reckamonic, and Nobody special to be more precise.

Why did you think I unvoted? Because of the VT claim?

[Antihero]

Yo, i mean like... you jumped on and off that wagon like three times. could be perceived as non-committal scum. Just now you actually see that there could be a lynch. I dunno, I'm just saying.

lolwat? Yeah, I tend to not commit to wagons I realize are being ridden by scum.

And you do realize this post is hypocritical, right?

I also don't even know why you got on the wagon.

You haven't been reading the thread, then.

[Antihero]

Yo, i mean like... you jumped on and off that wagon like three times. could be perceived as non-committal scum. Just now you actually see that there could be a lynch. I dunno, I'm just saying.

lolwat? Yeah, I tend to not commit to wagons I realize are being ridden by scum.

And you do realize this post is hypocritical, right?

Lol, so three out of nine players is ridden by scum. nice

What's the point you're trying to make here?

I also don't even know why you got on the wagon.

You haven't been reading the thread, then.

yea, you said it was because she OMGUS'd someone. AMIRITE?![/quote]
Um, no.

I don't see anything except for quasi-OMGUS self defense and active lurking. This is a good wagon.

This is what I said earlier. The "OMGUS" was referring to LLD attacking parama for his list.

Howso? I'm voting because i don't like the claim.

1) That's an aweful reason to vote.
2) It was hypocritical because you were accusing me of being noncommittal scum while making a post that sounded very noncommittal ("I dunno, I'm just saying")

[Antihero]

Bhavit was just replaced in a newbie game for not picking up a prod.


Don't know what to think about LLD, but I really don't like the wagon. Don't think there's enough to go on yet.

Here's the entire context. So, how does parama's quote subvert the meaning of the last sentence?

[Antihero]

1. its NOT an aweful reason to vote someone.

Seriously?

Who here thinks it's OK to vote someone just because of a VT claim?

2. Taking my sarcasm out of context is sweet too. because my posts ARE NOT non-committal. The only way i'm getting off this wagon is if it completely dies, or another scum wagon appears.

Oh, yes. Your post was perfectly clear. It was just me making some ridiculous stretch.

I mean, that's cool... you OMGUS'd me.... nice. AntiHero... wanna start a Parama wagon now?

What is your idea of OMGUS?

[Antihero]

VOTE COUNT

Blooderection (2): Parama, Antihero
Baby Spice (1): The Stove

Cool kids vote these wagons.

So funny. My #1 scumspect calling on the town to joijn #2 and #3 scumspect on voting for best town read I got.

Here's the entire context. So, how does parama's quote subvert the meaning of the last sentence?

Duh, because it was obviously refering to the so called case on LLD, not the game in general which was what Parama was implying. If that's not quoting out of context I don't know what is. Then his excelent reposte of "No I didn't".

Of course you would come to his support Anti-town, since you are his partner.

Tell me, where you glad when someone vigged Nero Cain, because he was really dumping you both in it deep.

OK, so if you had an idea about the game in general, why didn't you vote Parama

before

he called you down?

[Antihero]

Tell me, where you glad when someone vigged Nero Cain, because he was really dumping you both in it deep.

Took away the color tags, so everyone can see the bull. Hope that's OK, strangercoug.

I'm not sure what you mean by "dumping you both in it deep." What do you mean?

Also, I love the fact that I'm all the sudden scum once I start questioning your logic.

who here has played mafia before?

Umm.... him voting me after calling him scum.

I'm not sure what you're getting at with the first line.

And your idea of OMGUS is oversimplified.

[Antihero]

I'm back, sorry for the ambush. I had 2 sets to 4:00 because of the problem today, and then after that I slept for 11 hours.

I've got my vote as a vote of LLD on the pressure. I was not convinced I wanted to lynch her, but I wanted to help the car to see who would join. This does not mean that I would be desperate if she died, but was not all smoking guns for a lynching LLD.
I would also, however, that Black Cain throwing scum should lift up my Townie was a bit ', but I always forget bussing. fuck.

However, I prefer a wagon Baby Spice to be a wagon, because the child is doing does not make sense at the time quite clearly pro-town calling people scum d1. Of course you are not completely understood, but they get passed soon. NC was the scumlist Parama, turned scum. was scummy as fuck.

BC head of BE could be just be the village idiot we all know and love.

In addition, Antihero is pushing for a strong enough probable misslynch

XD
I forgive you for the ambush.

I'm not familiar with the BC style of play (though I don't know who the other head is), but I wouldn't describe him as a VI.

Why do you think it's a "probable misslynch"?

[Antihero]

...and as the wagon grows, the attacks become more and more desperate.

Oh, as for Antihero. "@NC: Could you please specifically point out the chesskid hypocrisy? Also, what do you think about Baby Spice and Tasky's first posts?"
N C, known scum, specifically quotes Anti-hero, who then directs a specific question at NC, who then answers it back, again with Antihero quoted. That is enough linkage in N C's two posts to make me seriously look at Antihero

LOL
You're actually using me asking NC a question and him answering it as a scumtell?
I asked about his chesskid vote because it didn't make much sense to me (you very conveniently left out that part).
I asked about your and Tasky's first post because NC selectively called Twomz down for not posting content with his RVS vote. Just FYI.

quote from The Stove. "Tasky and Baby Spice are scummy". (8 posts before N C was vigged you must note) Hmm, this is an echo of Antihero's question to NC, you know our only flipped scum. Why would we have two people actively suypporting/seeking the opinion of our only scum flip.

Umm.... I was actively supporting NC? Where did this occur?
And when did seeking opinions of anyone become a scumtell?

Preview edit:

Espy, what exactly do you like about the "NC points"?

[Antihero]

Espeonage - holding an RVS vote
Antihero - okay
Baby Spice - one of the worst votes I've seen on MS

Nero Cain - hypocrisy, thy name is Nero Cain

sakshijain - ahahahah

sakshijain needs to eat a bullet, any vigs in attendence plz fix this problem TIA.
VOTE: Baby Spice

A Nero Cain is ok too.

Oh, when you said that I thought you were saying you thought NC's

vote

was "ok." Thus my response (which baby spice left out):

@Stove: I disagree with your assessment of NC's vote, but I'll wait for his response.

They are something for later should you actually start acting scummy.

Unless we enter some alternate universe, those points will

never

become legit.

@chesskid: I read your posts. You don't have to spam.

[Antihero]

When players seperately express remarkably similar reasons out of the blue it is usually because there is a communications link between them. Especially when there is so little to go on. Since one of those players has been revealed as a non-neighbour scum, then there is only one possibility for that communications link. The link is the specification by Antihero and The Stove reguarding myself and Tasky. (Which could be neighbourisation normally) Directing it to, and involving, N C is what drags the scummy in and rules out neighbours.

Remarkably similar ... reasons? For what?

You're continuing to leave out the fact that I wasn't calling you and Tasky scummy at the time, but asking NC why he selectively called out Twomz for only posting an RVS vote.

And even if I was calling you and Tasky scummy, how does that imply a link?

ADDITIONALLY, if you want to apply your own "scumtell", what about this?

Oh, if you didn't notice, yes I have a post restriction, but you can hardly notice it. Not.

At least it's not a language one.

Vote Chesskid3

VOTE: chess

aah i just can't read his posts

so i vote him.

Out of the blue? Check
Remarkably similar reason? Check
Not very much to go on? According to you, Check

By your own logic, you and sakshijain are scum together.

[Antihero]

Antihero, can we please lynch BS before BE? She's so much scummier than he is.

hmmm...
Baby spice is using ultimate crap logic here, but I have a few qualms about this wagon.

First off, here's what NC had to say about Baby Spice:

RE Baby Spice: 79 sucks. 80 isn't much better. I saw no point in claiming the PR (not that I really believe it) and she gives no reason for voting Chess so its pretty scummy.

Why would NC pretend to think that Baby Spice was faking her post restriction? And the post restriction was fairly obvious, I don't know why he's pooh-poohing Baby Spice just saying what it is. I suspect he intended to possibly use this as a justification for a possible Baby Spice wagon.

I'm also not liking a couple people on the Baby Spice wagon. I think BE's vote in post 272 is motivated by self-preservation. Also, I think chesskid is quite scummy because he played the VI card for blooderection. I also have yet to hear why BE is a "probable mislynch" and why he selectively called me out for being on the blooderection wagon.

[Antihero]

...that doesn't address... anything.

[Antihero]

Yes. And you just did it, again.

[Antihero]

Chesskid, you're STILL playing the VI card for BE and you still didn't answer this:

I also have yet to hear why BE is a "probable mislynch" and why he selectively called me out for being on the blooderection wagon.

@ Antihero: BE's vote could be seen as self preservation... or bussing (which counts as self preservation). But NC trying to get a wagon started is a valid point... I still think a BS lynch would be a good place to start day 1 >.> everyone can't be vigbait, we don't even know if we have a vig.

Meh, I'm doubting BE is bussing.

With that said, there's probably scum on both major wagons right now. My picks for the BE wagon are Tasky and/or Espy (in that order). If BS flips scum, the chances of them being scum increase exponentially. If BE flips scum, the chances of chesskid being scum increases exponentially.

[Antihero]

What's nonsensical about what I'm writing? Please, enlighten me.

[Antihero]

[offtopic]Yeah, I'm sure I am, but that's irrelevant.[/math]

Add NS to the list of people I'm not liking on the BS wagon.

[Antihero]

When did I say neither of you were scum? Scum can't be on scum wagons.

So, I can't accuse more than 1 person of being scum at a time?

[Antihero]

When did I say neither of you were scum? Scum can't be on scum wagons.

So, I can't accuse more than 1 person of being scum at a time?

EBWOP:

When did I say neither of you were scum? Scum can't be on scum wagons?

So, I can't accuse more than 1 person of being scum at a time?

[Antihero]

Think about it. Do you analyse a current wagon looking for the scum that might be on it, or do you judge a wagon by the scumspects that are on it?

Ummmmmmmmmmm....
yes

[Antihero]

Add manho to the list of people I'm not liking on the BS wagon.

[Antihero]

I think this game will be more fun if we put someone to L-1:
UNVOTE: VOTE: Baby Spice

attention: it's L-1

Bus

[Antihero]

Blooderection is the play today.

I concur.

VOTE: Blooderection

[Antihero]

Chesskid, there is the chance of a town roleblocker.

Note: In SWNIII, Dramonic was town roleblocker.

Prenderò in considerazione due scumteams la prima volta che vedo più di una morte, per non parlare forse due morti dei non-scum

I will consider the existance of two scum teams... never.
None of the mafia deaths have been for a specific mafia. That probably means there's only 1 mafia.

[Antihero]

xvart, please stop failing and read the thread.

Yo... so why am i still the best lynch for today?

I don't know, why was BS the best lynch for yesterday?

Yo... might I add that if we had lynched the claimed VT.... WE WOULDN'T HAVE LYNCHED THE COP!

Yo... might I add YOU WERE ON THE WAGON!

Vote: Tasky

-gives off major scum vibes to me.

You can drop the act now. You're fooling no one.

[Antihero]

Hey xvart, get a clue.

[Antihero]

While xvart is annoyingly misguided about BE, I'm getting a townread on him.

While xvart's idea of exculsively lynching people with PRs is a bad one, I'm willing to bet there is scum among people with PRs (yes, I looked at your math, chesskid; while I do not doubt your skills as a mathematician, I disagree with your conclusion). Personally, my pick for post-restricted scum is manho. Let's go back to his post yesterday:

why is Baby Spice still alive. he's the most obvscum i've seen.
BE's vote on LLD is not a scum tell to me, as i always thought that lynching a claimed VT is standard procedure.
LLD is town for the reaction to the his own lynch.
Tasky is scum for unwilling to read and scumhunt.
M=W is scum for doing nothing but pushing the well-established wagon on LLD and BS.
someone do an ISO on Twomz will find that if you remove the PR-first liner, he has no content at all. so he's scum also.
parama is town. and i will think the stove is town if not agar did the great job in the original SWNIII as scum.
other is a no read or no time to read for now.

VOTE: Baby Spice

First off, he got Baby Spice's gender wrong, so I'm willing to bet he didn't look at her posts very closely.
He makes sure to specifically counter the point that BE's LLD wagon hop is perfectly OK (calling it "standard procedure," whatever that means).
He piles on to the people attacking Tasky without adding anything ... how original.
The M=W point doesn't make any sense at all, and looks like a bunch of spaghetti flinging. Not to mention the "pushing the wagon on BS" point is hypocritical.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... buddy up to parama so he doesn't publicly exhibit you on his list as scum.

[Antihero]

I didn't think you sounded arrogant.

Who, besides BE, do you think is scum, chess? Same question for you, espy.

[Antihero]

The fact that BE was for the LL lynch after her VT claim is a town tell in my book.

Well, your book is a lot different from my book.

1. PR are randomly assigned.

Well, there's an easy way to find out.

StrangerCoug: Can you tell us if the PRs are assigned randomly?

3. there are only me and chesskid being the alive PRs.

You missed Twomz.

You remember when I said I thought manho was scum? Yeah, that was all a dream. I'm actually reconsidering my opinion of chesskid and he's looking quite scummy (playing the VI card for scumBE, active lurking now w/ the math, the LLD wagon hop).

[Antihero]

Non a caso, fanculo la matematica.

Questo non è scumhunt dalla PRS, questo è scumhunt da chi è schiumosa. Se siamo un problema reale in seguito è possibile avviare vigging noi uno per uno. Politica linciaggio 3 PR perché hanno PRS è l'ultimo in comportamenti anti-città.

Antieroe è stato semi-tunneling su di me tutta la partita, nessun altro notato?
Io non sono "attivi in agguato matematica" Sto cazzo di distacco in italiano.

In realtà il fatto che lo fa mentre sta votando per BE mi fa pensare che sta cercando di impostare un altro misslynch sul ragazzo che parla italiano.

Vote: Antihero

What was that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of the OMGUS!

[Antihero]

In reality, the fact that he does while he is voting for me to believe that BE is trying to set up another misslynch the guy who speaks Italian.

Also, I'm not voting for you.
Try again, please.

[Antihero]

Oh, and xvart, what do you think of this?

Unvote:
Vote: Baby Spice

[Antihero]

So Lynch is one of PR, which city flip.
The next day, the argument goes OMG two PR have flipped the last two cities must contain a foam. Lynch And you another, etc. etc.
Retarded plane is delayed.
It is also not omgus why did not you vote, you missrep what I said because xvart is translating all my posts on things that have not clearly said.

It's not OMGUS? And I saw the phrase "he is voting for me" in the translation, I don't see much room for "misrep" as I don't know italian.

Antihero was semi-tunneling on me the whole game, no one else noticed?
I am not "active lurking math" I'm fucking posting in Italian.

In reality, the fact that he does while he is voting for me to believe that BE is trying to set up another misslynch the guy who speaks Italian.

First off, "semi-tunneling"? What is that? And how have I been doing that?
Second off, you can be posting in Italian without active lurking.
You can also quit with the whiny bullshit about AH-is-just-trying-to-"mislynch"-me-because-I'm-speaking-Italian. You're not that special because you're posting in Italian (i.e. - your post restriction is not that restricting, we can translate w/ a bit of garbling). I've already told everyone why I think you're scummy, and it's not because you're posting in Italian.

[Antihero]

What pro-town reason is there to not lynch scum?
I'm not listening to a word you say unless you can tell us WHY he's going to die tonight.

This.

@chesskid: Yeah, whatever. You're still not addressing the scumtells you've dropped, just whining about how I'm out to get you and your post restriction.

[Antihero]

@chesskid: Did you miss this?

First off, "semi-tunneling"? What is that? And how have I been doing that?
Second off, you can be posting in Italian without active lurking.
You can also quit with the whiny bullshit about AH-is-just-trying-to-"mislynch"-me-because-I'm-speaking-Italian. You're not that special because you're posting in Italian (i.e. - your post restriction is not that restricting, we can translate w/ a bit of garbling). I've already told everyone why I think you're scummy, and it's not because you're posting in Italian.

Still want it. Or an admission that your vote is actually OMGUS.

[Antihero]

Hey Tasky, who are your picks for scum?

[Antihero]

@chesskid: Did you miss this?

First off, "semi-tunneling"? What is that? And how have I been doing that?
Second off, you can be posting in Italian without active lurking.
You can also quit with the whiny bullshit about AH-is-just-trying-to-"mislynch"-me-because-I'm-speaking-Italian. You're not that special because you're posting in Italian (i.e. - your post restriction is not that restricting, we can translate w/ a bit of garbling). I've already told everyone why I think you're scummy, and it's not because you're posting in Italian.

Still want it. Or an admission that your vote is actually OMGUS.

non andare a prenderlo, pisciare così via.

Xvart ha tradotto ognuno dei miei post in modo errato. Faggot

Yeah, getting pissy isn't helping your cause. I know I'm being a bit inflammatory right now, but I'm getting somewhat irritated with you.

[Antihero]

tunneling is because you have not spoken to anyone that I have in ages.

That doesn't make sense to me, but I don't think I've tunnbeen tunnelling this game.

I am not active in wait, so stop fucking lying.

Well, you were going through a bunch of math, which doesn't add much to the game. And you've also spammed a few times (I can go back and pull those posts if you want).

This isn't even nearly the most important point in the case against you though. You made a crappy jump onto the LLD wagon and you used chainsaw defense + VI card for BE.

Preview edit: Yeah, if that's your hangup, let's forget the "scum has a PR" deal. That doesn't get rid of the fact that you're scummy.

[Antihero]

BE è la città così, sì, io lo difendo. Si legge come città frustrato l'impossibilità di evitare un linciaggio. Questa è la mia lettura. Chiaramente non è d'accordo, ma che stai ricevendo un po 'avanti di te che mi chiama feccia per DIFENDERLO prima che sia capovolto, EH?

How was BE trying to prevent a lynch? BTW, nobody has explained to me why the BS vote yesterday was OK (looking at xvart).
How is it a scumtell to call you down on scummy behavior before BE flips (and if you're still questioning what BE is going to flip, you haven't been paying attention)?

[Antihero]

Copied and pasted from google translator.

BE is the city so, yes, I am defending. It reads like the city frustrated the inability to prevent a lynching. This is my reading. Clearly does not agree, but you're getting a little 'ahead of you calling me scum to defend themselves before it is turned upside down, EH?

What did you mean to say?

[Antihero]

^And that's a town move.... why?

[Antihero]

I have explained it. Here. Here. And here.

Not satisfactorily. You pretty much dismissed it in your last one.

chesskid, you're continuing to be belligerent and you keep victimizing yourself for your PR. You're still scummy and your vote is STILL OMGUS.

Curse at me all you want and call xvart names, that doesn't change my opinion of you.

[Antihero]

I have explained it. Here. Here. And here.

Not satisfactorily. You pretty much dismissed it in your last one.

chesskid, you're continuing to be belligerent and you keep victimizing yourself for your PR. You're still scummy and your vote is STILL OMGUS.

Curse at me all you want and call xvart names, that doesn't change my opinion of you.

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It isn't OMGUS.

[Antihero]

Laugh at: Mafuyu

[Antihero]

vote: Me=First

I read the case and I agreee with it

The piggybacking = epicfail

Also, unless your vote is some joke, you got M=W's name wrong, so you're not paying attention.

[Antihero]

Oh. My mistake. I swear I thought that was his name.

Vote: Me=Weird

Oh, so you weren't paying attention.

+a couple scumpoints for you

[Antihero]

+a few scumpoints for you for making the most inconsequential thing into suspicion.

Not inconsequential to me.

LOL, spoiler text is illegal... so is invisible text...

i'm still catching up in the other ongoing game

Star Align III

, so i've not read BE yet. has BE claimed vanilla?

If you haven't read BE yet, how did you know BE claimed vanilla?

[Antihero]

I don't like what Tasky's doing, but it doesn't make sense as a scum play. I'd be willing to go for xvart today and BE tomorrow if he survives the night ... but then SC'd have to find a replacement.

xvart and Tasky seem townish; I'd rather go for a BE or toon fighter lynch today.

[Antihero]

Actually, yeah, if someone wants to vig us... probably a good decision, because we're never going to fully be caught up, and we don't want to be a mislynch target.

If you're not playing, please replace out.

[Antihero]

Actually, yeah, if someone wants to vig us... probably a good decision, because we're never going to fully be caught up, and we don't want to be a mislynch target.

If you're not playing, please replace out.

But...we are playing.
We're just not going to catch up because it seems fairly pointless considering

scum got massacred

.
We can iso the dead scumbags and see what we come up with, though.

This would be nice.

[Antihero]

Chronopie replaces Framm 18. Does anybody need a prod while I'm checking my other stuff?

I'm for a mass prod right now. Activity has really slowed down for some reason.

[Antihero]

I think Chrono just claimed scum. <_<

Somewhat kidding, but...

AGar, I'm afraid that, in the rush to prepare to fight the invaders of Dreamland Castle, I lost part of your role. I do remember that you're Mafia with MafiaSSK, Katsuki, Parama, and xvart and that you win with them, but I can't tell you anything else about it. Here is the QuickTopic thread so you can talk to them—maybe they can help.

You win when all remaining players in Dreamland are the Mafia or nothing can prevent the same. Most dreams start at night, and so does this game (yep—I've reverted back)—meaning that you can die without even posting.

Please PM me back acknowledging that you understand and confirm your (lack of a) role. The thread is here.

inb4 Mod-WIFOM

IIRC, there were also town that got that role PM. It's a nulltell to me.

[Antihero]

@smargaret:

moth replaced BE
the fox thing on acid replaced framm

Are you getting mixed up, or do you think framm was scummy?

[Antihero]

chronopie is town, or scum with parama.

Hmmm... Why did you choose to hide that portion of the sentence manho?

[Antihero]

the last time I made a post like this I was scum.

FoS: smargaret

As I recall, I think I made some points against smargaret a while back. Let me go back and check, but I am pretty sure I could swing for a smargaret lynch today in the unfortunate event that chesskid is not hanging from the gallows.

xvart.

/headdesk

[Antihero]

^Not seeing scumxvart right now. He seems sincere about his suspicion towards smargaret.

Tasky, as misguided as he is, also probably genuinely believes M=W is scum.

Toon Fighter, on the other hand doesn't; he's faking it.

I'll do a walk through of BE in a bit.

[Antihero]

^Epic scumfail.

[Antihero]

hmmm... I'm starting to get cold feet about this mothrax lynch.

I'll summarize the things I found scummy.

• Post 124: Right off the bat, you can tell BE isn't paying attention because Parama's comment was obviously about the weirdness of BE showing up on the vote count.
  
• Post 151: This makes absolutely no sense, like his other attacks on Parama and the Stove (who are both obvtown at this point).
  
• Post 176: This is a misrep of Espy's unvote. I also stand by my earlier comment of "this looks like scum eager for a lynch."
  
• I still haven't gotten an adequate defense from anyone for that BS vote.

On day 2, the only scummy thing I'm finding is the bitchyness surrounding the BS lynch.

Now, I'm hesitant with this BE lynch because mothrax's posts have given me townvibes. That+the fact that TF pratically claimed scum in his last post means that I'd like to follow Tasky on this one and lynch TF today instead. We can grill Tasky tomorrow if BE doesn't die tonight.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Toon Fighter

[Antihero]

unvote, vote: sakshijain

That lost role thing was seriously weird. I want it better explained.

Espy, look at me with a straight face and tell me NOTHING about this post is scummy. I see at least 3.

[Antihero]

Nah, he is fine as far as I am concerned. Might be worth a policy lynch for idiocy but definantly not scummy.

/facepalm²

unvote, vote: sakshijain

That lost role thing was seriously weird. I want it better explained.

• 1) I suspect the hilarious accidental self-vote was prompted by Parama's last post (buddying).
  2) The vote is a self-vote. Not paying attention, again.
  3) That second line is a blatant rolefish.

Add in the terrible M=W piggyback AND sakshijain's post.

[Antihero]

dammit, why do I put myself in these situations? I just confused chrono with sakshijain. I know, its a stupid mistake, but its just a mistake. If you want to lynch me for it, go ahead and do it

Oh, please, like that's the only thing your slot's done. And since you were only at 3 votes at the time, the drama isn't needed.

[Antihero]

someone explain me why mistakenly voting own slot predecessor is scummy please.

I've already explained this.

1) I suspect the hilarious accidental self-vote was prompted by Parama's last post (buddying).
2) The vote is a self-vote. Not paying attention, again.
3) That second line is a blatant rolefish.

If you want to write off the accidental self vote as an honest mistake, fine. That's a matter of personal interpretation. But the second line is still a blatant rolefish, and I think he deserves my vote just for that.

[Antihero]

Can someone please show me a Toon Fighter case that does not include where he voted himself please.

Can you please show me one post from that player slot that's NOT incredibly scummy?

With deadline approaching, I think I have to revote mothrax. I have no clue where Tasky is getting an odd number like 60%, either.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: mothrax

[Antihero]

^manho needs a lot more scrutiny.

[Antihero]

I don't think it's L1, as I don't remember seeing Twomz unvote.

Espeonage, you really think TF's M=W vote is OK? If so, how?

[Antihero]

I didn't say it was OK. I said it was null. He reads a case, agrees with it and flys with it until he can summon up something better after his reread. That is the way I interpret it anyway.

vote: Me=First

I read the case and I agreee with it

Are we reading the same post, Espy?

[Antihero]

Forget getting the name wrong! It's a blatant sheep!

[Antihero]

Well that was what I assumed you thought was wrong with it. That isn't a sheep until we see trend of it. That is a playstyle tell and you know it. Playstyle tells are also only really tells IF there is a trend of them.

...
...
...
...
Sometimes I wonder why I even bother talking to you.

Seriously, it's not like it's infuriating enough trying to explain why I'm suspicious of TF only to be shot down for no damn good reason. Now I have someone telling me what I do and do not know.

FTR, I don't even know what the f#$% a "playstyle tell" is.

[Antihero]

Hurray for hammer.

Seriously, it's not like it's infuriating enough trying to explain why I'm suspicious of TF only to be shot down for no damn good reason. Now I have someone telling me what I do and do not know.

Don't bother, he's scum. (Vigs you know what to do etc)

I look forward to more red text on my screen.

Hey Papa Zito/Agar,

What do you think of manho?

[Antihero]

How did I go to "null" parama?

Also, The Stove, my question about manho from yesterday still stands, please.

[Antihero]

Parama:

How did I go to "null" parama?

[Antihero]

Baseless accusations?

[Antihero]

Been seeing a lot of baseless accusations and your tone seems off IMO.

I'm not sure what you're referring to with tone, but whatever.

However, the people I've accused are TF and manho, both of whom are low on your list. If those are baseless, then doesn't it follow that you think your reads are baseless?

[Antihero]

I'm a little bummed I dropped below tasky, smargaret, and LLD, all of whom look townish but haven't done much scumhunting, but whatever.

What about you parama? What's your opinion of manho?

[Antihero]

FoS: Antihero. Town shouldn't really care about other reads on them unless they are directly accused of being scum.

Well, I moved from town to null, so obviously to Parama, I did something scummy.

I don't think it's unreasonable to want to know what it is (and I still don't, but whatever).

[Antihero]

BTW, I've played with manho several times now and I always think he's scummy. That he's just (yet another) neutral at this point is kindof an improvement.

Ugh

AGar and I need to confer and decide where we want to go today. I'd love to see some dead Espeonage (hi vig?) but.

Yeah, I would too.
VOTE: Espeonage

[Antihero]

Why my lynch. I was basically the only person who pointed out how stupid the TF case was and it turns out I was right.

maybe you are scum so you know TF is not scum for sure.

just saying that though i haven't read Espeonage and not decided him scum or not yet.

add in the stove in my list of to be read.

Hey manho, just a tip: don't hide stuff that might be important. I know you need to break that rule, but just put some nonsense in there.

Also, you're scummy.

[Antihero]

Actually, I'm really not liking manho right now (nor have I since he first posted, really).

UNVOTE:
VOTE: manho

[Antihero]

Day 1 End Vote Count

Blooderection

(3): Parama, Antihero, Framm 18

Baby Spice

(10):

The Stove, Lady Lambdadelta

, chesskid3,

Blooderection

, Me=Weird,

Nobody Special

,

Espeonage, Twomz, manho

, Tasky
chesskid3 (1):

Toon Fighter

Lady Lambdadelta (1): Reckamonic

Nobody Special

(1): smargaret
Parama (1):

Baby Spice

Not voting (3): xvart,

Mafuyu

Day 2 End Vote Count

Antihero (1): chesskid3
chesskid3 (2): xvart, Reckamonic
Me=Weird (1): Tasky

mothrax

(9): Parama,

The Stove, Lady Lambdadelta

, smargaret,

Espeonage

, Antihero,

manho, Twomz

,

Toon Fighter
Toon Fighter

(3):

mothrax

, Chronopie, Me=Weird


Green = known town
Red = flipped scum
Blue = on both mislynches (5 players including myself)

A fun exercise:
1) Look at all the names in blue.
2) Take the names of the people late on both wagons (that leaves Espy, manho, and Twomz)
3) Now, choose the most active-lurkerish player.
4) Now, think of the dead player who's behavior this most closely resembles (I'll give you a hint, it begins with a "Nobody" and ends in "Special")

[Antihero]

^scum

[Antihero]

wait. isn't this going WAAAY to fast?
we should be a little careful, while it is true that 3 scums have died, we still lost 2 very powerful power roles. I don't think we should take this lightheartedly.
I'd like a NICE, PRECISE and COMPLETE case against Espeonage in one post. Thanks!

Yeah, I'd actually like this too. When I voted him, I was just pissed at him. But I realized that's not a good enough reason.

[Antihero]

Hey chesskid, I know my reason. What's yours? (I promise to try and make the most sense out of google translate as possible)

[Antihero]

As might be scum like Espeonage, (he was happy to go into mathematics PR thing with me), and call it wishful thinking, but if he turns scum, the chances of me being scum down. If he runs the city, the chances of me being scum still go down.

Well, this looks like a pretty selfish reason to me, but whatever.

[Antihero]

@mod, you've missed my vote.

i'm not scum, sorry.

This =/= townish

I'm just shocked and awed that people care so much that I changed one town read to a nulltown read. And which questions did I miss? I tend to answer them all.

I'm just asking you what I did that was scummy. I'm shocked and awed that you seemingly can't tell me, and continue to stand by your opinion.

I can't joke around in a mafia game, apparently.
Calm down, PZ.

No, PZ doesn't need to calm down; you need to pull your head out of your ass. I'm getting a little frustrated with you because it's obvious you're intelligent and a decent scumhunter (from other games I've seen/played with you), and it doesn't look like you've been doing much recently.

I'm curious where you're going with all the manho stuff.

For some stupid reason, manho is ISO immune, so I guess I'll have to go back and manually pick out his posts, all of which give me a rotten feeling.

In a nutshell:
manho has been late on both mislynch wagons, completely sheeps on both of them, and, in general, looks like he's really trying hard to blend in.

Does it? So you have a strong town read on xvart then?

I know this isn't directed at me, but I want to answer it.

No, but a town read nonetheless. Yes, I think I would rather stick my finger in a pencil sharpener than try to convince xvart of anything, but I don't see any scum motivation for what he's saying.

Here's an idea: go read him yourself and form your own opinion.

I wish everyone in this game did this.

[Antihero]

So, you think he's town? What do YOU see?

Who's most likely scum, then?

[Antihero]

@Antihero: I am more active in games that I'm more interested in. Inactivity is a sign of disinterest, and I've never been able to make a game interesting myself, so...

If the numbers are the same from last game, that means more than half the scumteam is already dead.

What needs to happen for you to get interested?!

LLD

, you're starting to make me regret not hammering you Day 1.

[Antihero]

Quiters never win, Parama.

Can I draw up cases and do ISO reads later, when I'm NOT on an iPhone?

Facking impossible to post any kind of text block on these things.

I can do 1 main read right now. Which of those 4 would you most like a case on? I'll get it done.

That's not what I'm complaining about, LLD.

I

can do an ISO myself anytime I want to (except for on manho).

Every single one of those suspects are pretty high up on the general suspect list anyway. Let's just say,

just for the sake of arguement

, that all four of them suddenly died and the game didn't end.

What do you think now?

Personally, my gut still isn't liking chesskid. My brain has made me happier with him recently, but there's an aweful feeling I can't completely shake (I'm still hating that LLD interaction at the beginning, that thing that NC said, the fact that his behavior has been more sheepy recently, the aweful OMGUS yesterday).

[Antihero]

Yeah, so? IIRC, he called you scum, and voted for the person you were "bussing." That seems like a pretty good way for scum to distance without actually voting you.

P. Edit: List, paragraph, sentence, whatever. Format it however you want.

[Antihero]

Sorry, LLD, I'm just a bit grumpy right now.

I'm going to go take a nap.......

[Antihero]

xvart, your vote is so full of fail, it's almost poetic.
And I don't know why you think you're alone with your suspicion of chesskid.
Oh, and xvart, your dickish attitude is completely unwarranted; I summarized my reasoning for my BE suspicion, and you failed to acknowledge it.

Yeah, chesskid, I don't see a damn thing wrong with my logic. If you do, point it out.

[Antihero]

Dunno why town would want to see a wagon on obvtown.
Dunno why you care about me moving Antihero on my list if my list isn't scumhunting like you say.

You're BSing this on the basis of me moving one read on my list. From town to nulltown. And acting like it's a big deal. While also saying my lists are worthless.

Stove is right. You were acting townish at the beginning of this game, but then you went into a weird VI-like state for some reason, which seems pretty uncharacteristic for you.

And it's not even just about that stupid thing with me and the list, it's about your attitude in general. Why does it seem like you're throwing in the towel?

But I say no to a Parama wagon, I don't see what we'll gain from it.

^ feccia

Holy crap, am I actually agreeing with chesskid here?

[Antihero]

1

Why?

The Stove has to be the most townish person alive to me right now. To me, it looks like he's one of very few people making a sincere effort to scumhunt (you are, too; that's why you're also a townread). I have a feeling that you vs The Stove is a crappy, petty arguement fueled by OMGUS.

2

You're right. There has been some other suspicion cast, although I probably should have said more vocal opposition to chesskid. I guess I misremembered the number of people that actually voted him yesterday as I was starting to feel like the kid in class who raises his hand but everyone hopes the teacher doesn't call on. You know, the crazy uncle that nobody listens to. But the point still stands that chesskid, at the time of that post, was in no danger of being lynched, and it is still highly suspect that he wants to lynch someone regardless of flip alignment to make him more town.

My read of chesskid fluctuates more than the stock market. I kind of don't trust my own read on him most of the time.

3

I think the part of my post you are referring to was after a quote of yours. I was speaking to everyone, so my apologies if you thought my frustration was directed at you and you alone. Was the reasoning you were referring to this post? Because interestingly enough, if it is, you justified your previous vote ("I concur, vote BE") while jumping off the wagon... After I had been harping on trying to get the case for quite a while. So my point still stands, even though you gave your reasoning.

I was just assuming you read my unpleasant exchanges with BE earlier.

[Antihero]

I used to agree with chesskid about LLD, but I'm starting to have doubts.

Other than that, I think chesskid brings up very valid points. I need to rethink my vote.

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

insert here <No U>

but seriously.

No reasons, no case, nothing to defend against, just an unfounded call for votes?

Completely not true. Nacho and chesskid talked about this.

VOTE: Chronopie

[Antihero]

Antihero says he "tend

to not commit to wagons [he realises] are being ridden by scum." - but hang on, you got on and then off that wagon three times over it's course. That looks less like "not committing" and more like "hopping on and off as it becomes useful" to me.

You're leaving out a bunch of stuff. Like the fact that I only switched to NS because I thought he and LLD were on the same team (I'm starting to think they still could be). And where I explained specifically who I didn't like on the LLD wagon.

Why would NC pretend to think that Baby Spice was faking her post restriction?

um, because he was scum? What are you confused/irked about?

Not voting =/= not setting up a lynch.

In that post I was pointing out that I wasn't voting chesskid when he claimed I was. I never said I wasn't setting him up for a lynch, which wasn't a bad thing because I thought he was scum.

Right, that's gotten me to Page 20. Will finish the last 18 pages later and give final thoughts.

Cool.
Could you please tell me where to put all this hay before giving me more, please?

[Antihero]

Oh, wait a second, I forgot a bale.

It's funny because you were pushing BS for most of Day 1 too. Yessss... Your hypocrisy nourishes me.

No, I was pointing out that BE was being hypocritical because he was bitching about the cop lynch when he was on the wagon. I wasn't blaming BE for the mislynch, which is what you're making it out to be.

[Antihero]

That other image isn't showing up chesskid, what is it?

[Antihero]

^OK, I see you're voting for Espy. I looked over his ISO, and I'm not seeing scum. Can you tell me what's scummy about him?

Parama, I would also like this from you.

[Antihero]

Mod

, while it's completely your call, I would like to petition you to let xvart stay.

^This is not game related, by the way. I like xvart, so that's why I want him to stay.

This thread need more Chronopie.

[Antihero]

ugh, now I am regreting not hammering LLD on Day 1.

[Antihero]

P-Edit: Antihero, shut up. You have contributed less than I have. In fact, about all you've said is "I should have hammered LLD". If you find me so god damn scummy, post a case FFS!

I hope your headache gets better, but this is completely not true. You voted Espy earlier for some undisclosed reason (either that or just for that one lousy, isolated post), you promised content earlier and haven't delivered, and your vote sucks.

[Antihero]

Oh boy, Fate's here.

[Antihero]

SC is just trying to prepare us.

I remember the last time I tried to play a game with Fate without proper safety gear.

*shutters*

[Antihero]

I'm just kidding Parama.

And yes, I know, you rock as scum, you don't have to repeat it over and over again.

[Antihero]

I never said he was a threat.

Exposure to caps lock is just...novel.

[Antihero]

^here's the person telling me before "oh, playing with Fate isn't such a big deal"

[Antihero]

pst, Fate.

Chronopie is posting other places and not here.

Check it out.

[Antihero]

^Yeah, I think that came more out of annoyance from pain than reality.

[Antihero]

The lack of Chronopie in this thread makes me rage.

[Antihero]

Consider,

someone(s)

have a very accurate scumdar, and it's not the town as a whole.

IF

Fate had come up with some new reads, rather than parroting common opinion, we might actually manage to

lynch

scum, instead of letting the anonymous killer(s) do the job for us.

Says the guy who pops in the say "Hai gaiz, vote manho" and then leaves.

On the other hand, I am beginning to doubt some of my scum reads. After all, if both myself and Fate have picked Esp as scum, it just may be wrong...

Espy was one of your scum picks? You did a good job of fooling me, then.

Coulda sworn I'd posted yesterday. guess not...

Brief points: Parama/Stove feels TvT.

Manho's #828 is just... denial for the sake of denial. No real effort made in defending. Scum vibes.

LLD is fluffy. Whether fluffy scum or fluffy town...

Nacho made a good entry in to the game (better than I did at least), town read there too.

Summary: VOTE: Manho, FoS: LLD

Parama | Stove | Nacho are prob-town

Null on everyone else.

[Antihero]

^Who cares about that? Did you notice how he all the sudden thinks Espy is scum?

[Antihero]

I didn't find that to be OH SO AMAZING evidence.

I'm pretty sure that #892 didn't envelop all of his reads. At least, I hope not.

Well, considering he only bothers to call two people scummy, and everyone else "null," there's not much evidence that supports this assertion.

[Antihero]

Vote for Chronopie, Fate.

I'll give you cookies.

[Antihero]

^not as entertaining as Porochaz's drunk posting.

[Antihero]

lol, the font isn't that small Charlie. I can see it, and my vision sucks.

Vote Parama then. Also we know you're the SK and we told you to shoot Espeonage.

What's this all about?

[Antihero]

fate, parama is a fool; i think this is going to be another wasted lynch

Tasky (1): Knight of Cydonia
The Stove (2): Lady Lambdadelta, smargaret

wasted votes make me cry on the inside

[Antihero]

OHOHOHOHOHOHOHO

Antihero is scum, guys. Just trust me on this one. Me flipping shiny green is reason enough to follow my reads, btw. They tend to be right if I'm dying by any means.

the VI virus is a serious medical condition that causes self-voting, stupid and unfounded swings in opinion, and overall boneheadedness.

it can be spread from user to user while making unprotected replies, so remember, kids: practice safe posting, use common sense

(seriously, parama, if you don't want to be called a fool, don't act like one)

[Antihero]

by the way, i have no intention of voting parama today

[Antihero]

^are you thinking?

[Antihero]

Parama is making my head hurt.

Wait, did Chesskid just call a flipped townie scum? Lol. Why are more people not voting chesskid for this?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: chesskid

because it's, ya know, not that big of a deal and seems more like a mistake.

Firstly, I've seen plenty of townies call arguments "town vs. town" before, so I'm not sure where you're getting that idea from; and secondly, that 828 is pretty much how manho posted all damn game. It's not a change under pressure, it's him sticking to providing fuck-all content.

ok, well how about the fact that he slaps a vote on manho, a popular target, and then comes in and says "lol, we need to be sheeping the dayvig instead" (which i now realize is a subtle rolefish)?

[Antihero]

Fate, I think you're just incapable of having a townread on me.

Chesskid saying flipped town would seem less scummy if I had less of a general scumvibe coming from Chesskid. Also, TF is a memorable dayvig for flipping town (and the whole self-voting thing), and it looked a lot to me like TF was filler in chesskid's list.

where's this general scumvibe coming from?

[Antihero]

This is an announcement that Chronopie is selectively lurking in this game (i.e. - he's posting in other games and not this one).

[Antihero]

Hey Fate:

This is an announcement that Chronopie is selectively lurking in this game (i.e. - he's posting in other games and not this one).

Selective lurking = huge scumtell; I just thought that was a given

I'm Antihero and I approve this Chronopie wagon.

[Antihero]

OK, then fate. Let's go down the list of players.

Antihero - I let you all decide on this one from my play this game.
Charlie X replaces manho - manho's play sucked, but from the amount of shitty piggybacking that occured after I threw a fit about him, I think he's probably town
chesskid3 X - I think he's redeemed himself recently; willing to bet town here
Chronopie * replaces Framm 18 - selective lurking (which I disagree about with fate), crappy piggybacking on manho, subtle rolefishing; scum
Espeonage * - disappeared ?
Fate replaces xvart, who replaced bhavitgoyal - I liked xvart, fate is also good; willing to bet town here
Knight of Cydonia * replaces Me=Weird - M=W was good, KoC's catchup slung some mud, but this is still a townish slot
Lady Lambdadelta * - a headache
Nachomamma8 * replaces Reckamonic (hydra of dramonic and xRECKONERx) - I think nacho is townish, but I can't read him to save my life (look up Lie to Me mafia), but I don't intend on voting him anytime soon
Parama - pretty disappointing (as shown by fate's case), but still OK to me (say what you want fate, I'm not feeling this one)
smargaret * - also townish (NS)
Tasky - seems townish to me, though inattentive
The Stove * (hydra of AGar and Papa Zito) - the most townish player alive
Twomz - another townish player

I'm going with a Espy, Chrono scumteam; I'll vote espy, but since he's kind of scum by PoE, I'd like a chrono lynch today.

[Antihero]

^You're talking about me?

[Antihero]

or smargaret?

[Antihero]

admittedly I'm not the all-knowing Mafia God you are

This bothers me. Instead of attacking Fate's ego, which doesn't seem productive, why don't you tell us who has a reasonable chance of being scum (and no, it's not Tasky).

P. Edit: Fate, could you please learn yoga, breathing exercises, meditation, I don't know SOMETHING to calm down?

smargaret probably isn't scum, her defensiveness and cheap attack just annoyed me.

[Antihero]

Scumhunting never was your strongsuit.

scumhunting was never her strongsuit? She's was willing to slap a vote onto scumbag NS early on when it was apparent that he was so full of shit, it was squirting out his ears. That doesn't look like bussing to me. Now you're starting to annoy me.

Stove, I don't think parama has a problem committing to reads.

[Antihero]

Yes, I am defending smargaret, fate. I'm also defending parama. What now?

I also think you're the brain tumor that's paralyzing this game.

How do you like that?

[Antihero]

ARE YOU SERIOUSLY ASKING WHY FATE IS A F#$@ING BRAIN TUMOR?

It's a 49 page game, he went through and picked out Parama for some stupid crap and starts the psycho-tunneling, and completely ignoring the lurkerscum chronopie. And then when I call him out on his new, unfounded bullshit smarg read, I'm now scum.

P. Edit -

Dear Fate,

You're probably not scum, but your read SUCK! S-U-C-K. Harder than an episode of the Daily Show.

Love,

-AH

[Antihero]

^Why don't you crawl out of your tunnel and look at the damn playerlist?

Oh yeah, and the daily show does suck. But we can take that to GD.

[Antihero]

^I think you just made it for me.

[Antihero]

OK, if you don't see a problem with not even knowing who's in the damn game, I don't know what I can tell you now.

P. Edit - OK, whatever.

[Antihero]

Tasky. Chrono. Parama.

All three need to be lynched. Tasky has gone completely under the radar. Chrono was never above it. Parama is throwing around vague bullshit about how Charlie is town, and smarg is ruining the null/town read I had on her by accusing Fate, of all people, of paralyzing the game.

That was me.

"ok, whatever" Either agree or disagree, the hell's wrong with you? Why don't you want to make some grand case about how we should lynch Chronolurkerscum today and how that lynching lurkers CAN be good town play or ANYTHING?

I mean, I know you dont ACTUALLY want Chrono lynched today (if you are scum) because he's a great target to park your vote on because his play is such shit and easy to make a case on.

What's wrong with me?

Is that a serious question? Or is that just a joke?

What's wrong is that I'm talking to someone who apparently doesn't want to listen.

And we're at a couple scum at this point in the game. I would take any kind of scumlynch over anykind of mislynch any day of the week. The "information" you're talking about; that's illusory.

[Antihero]

Alright, I've calmed down since my last visit to this thread.

smargaret

: So, defending a townread is scummy? o.O

Stove

:

Why are you pushing the wagon on "lurkerscum chronopie"? Seriously, I'd like to know.

Because the few posts he's made have been scummy as hell. He makes a crappy piggyback on manho and espy, and seems to be just lurking around waiting for a lynch. I'm not letting him fly under the radar. Apparently, fate thinks this is apathy; from reading chrono's few posts, I think he's doing it in an attempt to avoid the noose.

[Antihero]

LLD

, why are you asking for cases from everyone else? How about a reason (forget a case) for the Stove vote?

Nacho

, where art thou?

[Antihero]

Nacho

:

I see you posting in other games! I'm not letting you lurk! I already didn't like reckamonic for active lurking, and you're not making things better!

P. Edit: Tasky is another offender.

Another edit: huh? I'm not seeing what you see fate. Could you please help?

[Antihero]

Class, despite my moral outrage, the Skool Principal is allowing you to celebrate Valentine's Day this year.

Avatar bet time. Everyone on my wagon has to be willing to change their avatar to one I pick (and I pick who gets what) if they're on the lynch wagon when I flip town. I'll change my avatar to something of PZ's choice if I do flip scum.
P.S. My avatar changes for no man.
I'm going to start lining these up right now

I've done this before (after the game is over I'll have won actually ) using this



And I do not accept. My vote was placed before any outside condition was imposed on it, so I am under no avatar-changing contract. If I unvote you and revote you later today, I may strike a bargain with you in this matter, but it will involve one of us changing our avi as the outcome .

red vs blue = awesome = Twomz

[Antihero]

oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Antihero]

hm,

how do you explain the katsuki kill + janitor then?

[Antihero]

(I have no idea what happened with Katsuki and don't really care.

Ouch. So harsh.
I like Katsuki.

[Antihero]

Going through Tasky's ISO, I caught this:

why are you voting a SK-suspect when there is still scum left?
additionally, I have a strong reason to believe that there is no SK. so either you attack Parama for being mafia, or you unvote him.

OK, what's the reason for that? You seem to have a

lot

of extra knowledge about this game and what's supposed to happen at night.

I'm with fate on this one.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Tasky

[Antihero]

hahahahahahaha

smargaret thinks fate's getting lynched tomorrow

[Antihero]

Fate, I'm literally struggling to type this post out because I'm laughing so hard.

You really need to calm down, this can't be good for your blood pressure.

Also, I doubt the Italian spit out by googlefail makes much sense to tasky (think about it, the english translations don't make much sense to us).

[Antihero]

Could Antihero buddy up with people anymore?

I swear, the first day or so, he had no problem buddying with Parama. The only time he went against Parama is when Fate replaced in.

He found a new leader to sheep? I get a strong town read on Fate... And I HAD a strong town read on Parama, up until he stopped contributing ANYTHING.

I'll do an ISO of AH later, but seriously, could you please be Your own person? I mean, rather than "LOL FATE, DAT WAS SO FUNNY! I CAN'T EVEN TYPE MY POST TO GIVE MY ARGUMENTS BECAUSE YOURS ARE SO GOOD, ILL JUST USE THEM, AND MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE MY OWN".

Thanks.

What is up with you, LLD? I never said anything that even implied I think the stuff in caps is true. I never "went against" Parama? What the #$%& does that mean? And how have I not given my own arguements this whole damn game?

You're going to do an ISO of me? Good. Maybe you'll stop making laughable at best posts.

[Antihero]

Tasky, where did you pull that 60% probability from yesterday?

I'm down for a chronopie or nacho lynch today.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Chronopie

[Antihero]

WHERE THE F#$% IS THE CHRONOPIE OR NACHO WAGON?

Seriously, are you all even awake right now?

LLD: Couldn't care less about Parama's lists right now.

[Antihero]

I'd ask why you are so quick to drop them, when you were so worried about them a few days ago, when your town read dropped to a null read?

Yeah, that bugged the crap out of me then, but I don't really care now.

Why are you wasting your vote, LLD? Wasted votes pollute the ocean and suffocate sea turtles.

[Antihero]

Unvote, Vote: Chronopie

I really don't care about Tasky as SK. His scumminess makes sense at least, and I'd just rather leave him for the mafia to kill. They won't leave any killing roles alive since they did get crushed earlygame. They can't afford to lose another teammate now.

What? That's it? All that shit between Fate/me/smargaret/whoever else, and all you contribute to is the stupid Tasky crap?

UNVOTE:

Anybody up for switching to a nacho wagon? I hated reck/dram's play anyway.

[Antihero]

Making a case? You active lurked, as did Reck; the Tasky vote and Parama vote are both complete WTF; and you know when I was complaining about shitty piggybacking on the manho case? Yeah, you're one of those people.

And I'm not just going to slap down a lone vote. Those are wasted. The only reason I took it off Chronopie is because I didn't want some idiot coming in and hammering.

[Antihero]

Actually, screw it.

VOTE: Nachomamma

[Antihero]

ugh, fine.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Chronopie

The only reason I took it off Chronopie is because I didn't want some idiot coming in and hammering.

...what?

Why would someone not hammer Chronopie now? He's not going to claim because he doesn't know what his role is. He's proven that he's not going to contribute anything worthwhile based on his absolutely useless, non-insightful posting. And, since you seem to have forgotten, a lynch means the start of another night, then the start of another day, which equals another shot for the DK'er who is waaaay more on his/her game than we are on ours, in case you hadn't noticed. There's no reason for you to derail the Chrono wagon at this point.

*glare*

[Antihero]

Dear Tasky and Daykiller,

I look forward to seeing Nacho's name in red at the bottom of a gruesome death scene soon.

Love,

Antihero

[Antihero]

/slapswithafish

I think that was the point.

[Antihero]

Nacho is scum.

VOTE: Nachomamma8

[Antihero]

Making a case? You active lurked, as did Reck; the Tasky vote and Parama vote are both complete WTF; and you know when I was complaining about shitty piggybacking on the manho case? Yeah, you're one of those people.

Do you agree with this assessment, LLD?

[Antihero]

Also, how do you like my new macrophage? B)

[Antihero]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Antihero]

This was the the most awesome role I've ever had. Thanks, SC, for giving me this opportunity.

[Antihero]

It seems like Nacho talked to himself in that QT more than the initial scumteam talked to each other.

Oh, and by the way. The daykill flavor for Days 1 - 3 was written by me. How did you all like it?

[Antihero]

EDIT: I came up with the kill method, SC still wrote flavor.

[Antihero]

Comments:

Nero Cain

: Tip for when you're scum again; I sent in the kill on you immediately after I read this post. Contradictions and the use of nonlogic are really, really scummy.

smargaret

: What was with all the softclaiming?

Toon Fighter

: Did you mean to kill Mafuyu with that black box? If so, awesome job!

Parama and Stove

: Why were you directing the vig when you're taking yourself out of the pool of suspects for daykiller? I tried to cover my tracks by doing it myself and hoping scum bought it, but I think your letters (while well-intentioned) were a little anti-town.

Nacho

: I think you played well given the circumstances (lack of scumteam coherence and communication). Good game.

[Antihero]

Your letters looked sincere, meaning scum could deduce that you weren't the dayvig, Parama.

That's why it's antitown.

[Antihero]

^this is a shame, because you're a decent scumhunter

[Antihero]

LOL

YOU CAN'T READ ME

I COULDVE GOT YOU LYNCHED BUT I GOT CHRONO LYNCHED INSTEAD.

WHAT ARE YOU BRAGGING ABOUT AGAIN? HOW YOU SUCK AS TOWN AND CANT BE READ?

[Antihero]

You played well Fate, but don't try to take sole ownership of that Chrono lynch.

Just sayin'.

[Antihero]

I like the fact that you take initiative and like to lead, Fate.

But I'm a little unhappy with the way you treat people who disagree with you (i.e. you tend to automatically think they're scum).

[Antihero]

You think the definition of protown is just restricted to your behavior?

[Antihero]

I've never attacked someone who has disagreed with me on

reads

,

but when people disagree with me on pro-town play? That mean's they are taking an anti-town viewpoint.

That means they need lynchin. Especially if they don't even hold up their end of the argument (i.e.l force me to concede that they just have a different view of Mafia Theory, and not they are scum pushing anti-town play).

Also I think my case on Smarg was a little bit better than just her disagreements with me.

[Antihero]

My thoughts on what's protown may differ from yours, Fate. Certainly, we can agree that neither of us are right 100% of the time; therefore, us having different views on pro-town play doesn't mean we're on opposite teams.

[Antihero]

^Yeah, I think you're right, that's why anti-town townies annoy the shit out of me (it forces me to try to distinguish between frickin useless town and scum trying to weigh down town with stupidity).

I was pretty confident that smargaret was chasing a red herring, and I think that tainted your view of me, Fate (since she was attacking you and you seemed confident in your read on her).

Overall, it was a good game though, I look forward to playing more games with you.

[Antihero]

Seriously, Antihero, that was incredible shooting. Nicely done. You were the only solid town read PZ and I had throughout the game.

Thanks everyone, but I can't take sole credit for that game; the town did what they were supposed to.