Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Beefster]

VOTE: Blooderection

*refers back to his notes*
(determining the shift was distracting)
*realizes his notes weren't very useful*

-In his first post, he posts a full scum/town list.
--Lots of fencesitting
-Voting LLD for no apparent reason, despite her being cleared.
-Having a mysterious doublevote yesterday. (nulltell, but still... why did it go away?)
-Lets all consider a new perspective. We don't have to go with it, mind you.

[Ythan]

Telling people to think of new things without proposing anything is fluff and stalling.

[Beefster]

What should I do instead? I'm willing to switch to ss22 at any time and I proposed a weak case. I just don't like tunneling. When you tunnel, you miss out on all the other opportunities for other scums to mess up.

Nah man imma get the PGO and the daycop LOLOLOL JK I'm not using it tonight either

Why not? You seem to have your targets picked out and you're of no use to the town being alive.

The earlier you use your power, the more useful it is to the town. I see no pro-town reason to not use your power.
Perhaps you don't actually have the power you claim to have, so you're "not using it" to stay alive.

If you don't use your power tonight, we'll get someone to vig you, just in case you're a jester.

[Exilon]

Hum.. lemme just get this straight then. Beefster tried several attacks which failed because they hit a person's wagon who didn't have a wagon, right?
The shift is according to the actual playlist (therefore, not counting dead players). Now, after some calculations, I have figured the shift (only 10 down is possible.)

So, I thought of aiming for Le Cupcake. For that, I have to aim for Chesskid, and if the mod counts, I'll be aiming at myself.
Substrike is a safer hit. since ten down does not cross the mod to hit him, I can aim for Chrnopie and I'll be hitting Substrike.
For Nikanor, I have to hit zwet, and if the mod counts, I'll be hitting DTM.

What do you think?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Lynch substrike??

[Chronopie]

I'd say try daycop substrike.

And the QT has been similar to a ghost town this past week. In that there are

very

few new posts.

For my own suspicions however: "Ruto" chose not to reveal themselves. In the case there does turn out to be a scum neighbour, probably a smart move... "Saria" has a discrepancy in unsealing target, when compared to the rest of the sages (and that issue has been discussed in QT). And substrike/"Rauru" is probably the scummiest of us all, in so far as play, thus my personal choice for Exilion to check Sub. and, should there be no shift, then myself in said case. ofc if the shift is up instead of down, it will end on mothrax/rayfrost.

[Ythan]

Hm, Ruto.

[chesskid3]

Uh Jester would not get a fake role pm, would they?
Also my power is better used _LATER_ when I have a better chance of not hitting a town pr

[RayFrost]

I'd prefer a target on one of the masons to confirm exilon's result. I feel that substrike is clearscum and should be lynched. Don't waste cop investigations on people that are going to be lynched. Check uncertain players (examples: one of the masons, ythan, vezok, zwet, ABR, bunny).

Also, exilon, if you've figured out that the shift is down ten for sure, then that means you hit the mods yesterday upon targeting LL. The mods are definitely part of the player list as per the fact kai's rolling attack the other day hit the mod wagon.

I don't feel that chess should use his power at this time.

[Chronopie]

Also, exilon, if you've figured out that the shift is down ten for sure, then that means you hit the mods yesterday upon targeting LL. The mods are definitely part of the player list as per the fact kai's rolling attack the other day hit the mod wagon.

Wait. What?

If he hit the mods, and got a scum result... (given his perceived guilty on LL, prior to shift knowledge)

[RayFrost]

For my own suspicions however: "Ruto" chose not to reveal themselves. In the case there does turn out to be a scum neighbour, probably a smart move... "Saria" has a discrepancy in unsealing target, when compared to the rest of the sages (and that issue has been discussed in QT). And substrike/"Rauru" is probably the scummiest of us all, in so far as play, thus my personal choice for Exilion to check Sub. and, should there be no shift, then myself in said case. ofc if the shift is up instead of down, it will end on mothrax/rayfrost.

Do you suspect Ruto for the no reveal, or do you feel that it is inherently a null point? Does the discrepancy lead to you suspecting Saria, or is it just a random oddity?

P-edit:

Yes, chrono, that means the mods are playing in this game... scummy bastards. The only issue is that the shift may be different during d1 than it is today, so I might be wrong.

[RayFrost]

The shift yesterday appears to be either 12 up or 16 down.

[Ythan]

Uh Jester would not get a fake role pm, would they?
Also my power is better used _LATER_ when I have a better chance of not hitting a town pr

One, why are you still talking about jesters. Two, nice change of tone on when you should use your ability.

[chesskid3]

eh?

[Ythan]

I don't really know how to make the question any more plain.

[chesskid3]

I don't get TWO. One was because Beefstew brought it up

[Ythan]

I see no reason for us to believe that a jester wouldn't get a fake role PM.

[chesskid3]

Well seeing as I'm not in any danger of getting lynched, and I'm supposed to sui around MC time, I don't see why it matters

[Ythan]

You asked a pointless and inane question. There's your answer to it. Whatever you're trying to do please try to do it better.

[chesskid3]

Shrug. Back to lurking.

[Dekes]

@Rayfrost page 94
I think both jmj and Substrike are scum. I can make cases on both, but I can't vote both. I chose Substrike over jmj, because his lynch will give us more info. To say I'm voting him solely to solve the neighborhodd issues is absurd. I made a case on Substrike before and now on D2 he has one post of substance and then once popping up to ask if the shift has been resolved. No active scum hunting involved whatsoever.

Do I think a vig should take care of jmj? Absolutely. But if this doesn't happen I'll go after jmj again, because like I said, I don't think his posts are that nulltell fluffy as you seem to think.

@Bunnylover
What happened to your questioning of Aikage on D1? Does her latest post change anything about your read on her?

Regarding the shift:
I agree with trying to target one of the masons for clarification. Some still believe they are a scum team and it's been distracting for the rest of town.

[Reckamonic]

The mods have slightly edited all vote counts in the game. Carry on.

[Chronopie]

For my own suspicions however: "Ruto" chose not to reveal themselves. In the case there does turn out to be a scum neighbour, probably a smart move... "Saria" has a discrepancy in unsealing target, when compared to the rest of the sages (and that issue has been discussed in QT). And substrike/"Rauru" is probably the scummiest of us all, in so far as play, thus my personal choice for Exilion to check Sub. and, should there be no shift, then myself in said case. ofc if the shift is up instead of down, it will end on mothrax/rayfrost.

Do you suspect Ruto for the no reveal, or do you feel that it is inherently a null point? Does the discrepancy lead to you suspecting Saria, or is it just a random oddity?

Ruto's no reveal, while suspicious in and of itself, is probably a null-tell at that. Saria's discrepancy... I don't really know what to think, but had the targeting/unsealing system held constant as with the other sages, it would probably be as awkward, if not more so.

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And the more I think about it, I realise we still can not be certain of the direction of the shift. We have no proof as to whether it's a fixed constant or a variable. So, as Exilion is not told the real target of his ability, we can only have vague assurances of target in any case, narrowing the result down to three or four potential players. Unless the snitch is more forthright than we can realistically hope for.

Either target for Substrike or one of the masons, I leave that decision to Exilion.

I should really get back to some last minute study.

[Dekes]

The votecounts got changed to that Aikage is sometimes on nameloc's/Mafuyu's wagon, sometimes not. Wtf? Secret voter maybe? Anybody with experience there?

[Chronopie]

oh and

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