Mini 1072 - Battle of Alcatraz

[Copper]

I'd also like to know what Copper thinks about Exe flipping town. You haven't said anything about the flip yet you've posted twice since.

We made our thoughts on this clear on D1. Our case on Nikanor/Budja is severely crippled, while our suspicions of Cooldog are less hampered.

@Cooper: Twice players half the action?

Apologies for our lack of posting. We were waiting for ReaperCharlie to make connections, and felt it was best to have as little presence in-thread as possible during that time. It wasn't our plan to abjectly lurk, but we could not find anything worthwhile to say that wouldn't influence ReaperCharlie.

Due to the fast-approaching deadline and disparate wagons, we will reveal this information now, as we feel our chances of lynching scum today are minuscule as it stands.

We have role information that ReaperCharlie is a member of the Crimson Angels.

We want to give as few other details as possible due to the unique mechanics of this game. The Warden is watching.

This is an extremely low-pressure town, and I doubt scum are feeling the pressure to bus. I am fairly certain, then, that nopoint is a townie. We welcome more input on the gamestate - hopefully we should have more analysis before night falls.

VOTE: Reapercharlie

[Copper]

Also, I strongly suspect this is not a cult game, and think that those proposing such are likely scum. This would seem to point to CoolDog as a scumbuddy of ReaperCharlie, particularly with Reaper's coaching post 338. However, I want to talk with my fellow heads more before drawing associative tells - we're all feeling a little less certain after that surprising Exe townflip.

[TheButtonmen]

Unvote; Vote: RC

[ReaperCharlie]

We have role information that ReaperCharlie is a member of the Crimson Angels.

We want to give as few other details as possible due to the unique mechanics of this game. The Warden is watching.VOTE: Reapercharlie

Explain this madness.

[Katsuki]

Vote: RC

@TBM: Yes, I realize that recently, I haven't delivered on any re-reads on any game in the past week or 2.

[ReaperCharlie]

So, um. I need to re-read the thread again for obvious reasons, but won't have time until this weekend. Hopefully stuff will come this weekend.

Apologies for lack of content, have not had much time for MS as of late. Will try and make time for a re-read tonight.

I realize that I have not posted much. I have not had the time for MS over the past while to play properly, so my activity level in sitewide has been very low.

Fuck just accidentally deleted my post on exe while trying to copy...

Checking in, will comment tomorrow.

In class right now. Will look at things later today.

...

Vote: RC

[Katsuki]

Sounds like the posts I've been making site-wide over the last two weeks, sadly.

Regardless, those things you quoted have absolutely nothing to do with Copper #350, and your (RC) #353.

[ReaperCharlie]

Exactly. I have an inkling of why Copper thinks the way he does, but I'm not sure yet and I want him to talk a little more about it.

I'm just making fun of the fact that you haven't even read the thread, but are sheeping the last vote you saw on the page just to look like you're involved.

[TheButtonmen]

Exactly. I have an inkling of why Copper thinks the way he does, but I'm not sure yet and I want him to talk a little more about it.

Sounds like the posts I've been making site-wide over the last two weeks, sadly.

Please you've been useless for much more then two weeks.

Do you see any connections between RC and the people you suspect?

[ReaperCharlie]

Exactly. I have an inkling of why Copper thinks the way he does, but I'm not sure yet and I want him to talk a little more about it.

As in, it actually makes

sense

for him to get that vibe, if certain shenanigans were to happen last night.

(No, I'm not a miller, afaik).

[SpyreX]

ACTUALLY

I want Copper to come fully clean before I spew on this thread.

[Copper]

There are problems with coming "fully clean." Remember that the Warden will modkill for specific offenses. As well, part of our roles power is contingent on it's secrecy.

I am curious as to what "shenanigans" RC is referring to that could potentially give us a false result.

[TheButtonmen]

@SpyreX:

Why should the information role come "clean" rather then the person with a guilty on them claiming mitigating factors (but who won't discuss what they are)?

[SpyreX]

Lets make it real simple:

You can not be a Prisoner.

So, there's something else afoot.

(DAMNIT TBM)

[SpyreX]

Actually, you know what, its fine.

Unvote, Vote: RC

That just means that the not prisoner managed to hit a scum because otherwise there could have been NO result.

So, either truth or lying. I'm down.

[CooLDoG]

vote rc

, he an't my scum buddy but I think acting off a cop on d-2 with little leads (except kat active lurking and refusing to answer to me) is a good move.

Also kat, answer my damn questions.

[Copper]

That's L-1. I don't want to lynch until we hear from Reaper about what could give me a false result.

[Copper]

EBWOP: Also, the claim post and all subsequent posts have been a single head. We would also appreciate the chance to come to an internal consensus on scum and town reads and post them in thread before the lynch.

[SpyreX]

Unvote

Well FINE then.

I'll reread under the RC-scum guise tonight as well.

[ReaperCharlie]

This is retarded. Though I was worried that something like this might happen due to what I will explain below, I totally didn't expect lurkers to show up randomly and put me at L-1 before I could at least get a feel for what the other roles in the game were (more on that below).

And since I still consider myself at L-1 for practical purposes, I will point out my crumb in #72.

I

rony (with a capital 'I') seems to be a trend here...

A

lso.

M

y suspicion is: whoever jumped off Exe's wagon "too easily" may be a scumbuddy (if they were on it to begin with).

A

lso:

C

ommon sense + common tells say that if another mafia is on nopoint's wagon, they probably did not START the wagon, so that means Copper is

probably

not scum.

O

rrr wait.

P

erhaps he IS scum and just started the wagon on a trifle to see if it would go somewhere, and then people liked it, and it led to a 'good' (fast) wagon, based on very little actual evidence.

Now first of all... I am not an ACTUAL cop; that would be impossible given the mechanics that I think are in place.

Disclaimer:

I am going to try to be as forthcoming as possible without getting myself modkilled for the second time in a week, for saying too much... so... here goes.

I am not a COP by definition so to speak, but I AM a similar informative role called an "

Informer

". My 'job' as an Informer is to observe other prisoners (from where, I cannot say), to feed info to the warden, and to keep things as they are. I really hope I don't get killed for saying this, but as an Informer, I am (shall we say) ... LESS RESTRICTED ... than other prisoners during Lockdown/Night Phase, because of my 'good behavior' in the past.

Basically, I am a rat, and benefiting from it.

My role flavor talks about me being (relatively) happy inside the pen, and I don't want the other prisoners to get unlocked and start a riot. Because that would mean an end to my "more-cushy-than-everyone-else" life, and I have crossed more than a few guys in this prison already and if certain people get unlocked, bad things may happen to me. Also; I am in the pen for strangling my wife, and I have nothing left on the outside as my children have been taken away from me. So, I want things to stay as they are, basically.

So as for what I did last night, I [we'll say, "observed"] Copper last night to find out [whatever it is I find out] because I was very suspicious of his seemingly strong case on Exe after Exe flipped town.

I am not affiliated with the Crimson Angels in any way, but I do have uhhhh... "more privileges", shall we say ... than the normal prisoner, which in turn facilitate my informing. These privileges [not saying what they are] might explain why Copper got the

idea

that I'm a Crimson Angel, but I have no clue how he could have gotten like, a MOD RESULT saying that I am one, simply because... I'm not. Like I said before, I'm not a miller as far as I know either, so I am under the impression that Copper took what he knew, weighed it around a bit with his other heads, and came to a

conclusion

that I was probably a bad guy. But I'm not a Crimson Angel, and I know I'm not 3rd party because I win with all the rest of the (locked) prisoners and there are no more threats to my prison life. So...

This is all I've got. I hope I have not said too much.

[TheButtonmen]

I dislike RC's claim (bad breadcrumb, still holding stuff back, too much coincidence), as long as Cooper can confirm they got aligment information as opposed to activity information then I support an RC lynch.

[ReaperCharlie]

I HAVE TO HOLD STUFF BACK OR ELSE I WILL BE MODKILLED.

[CooLDoG]

weak claim though, anybody can set up a half-assed bread crumb like that...
Also what are the chances of two cops beeing in a mini game?

[TheButtonmen]

So as for what I did last night, I [we'll say, "observed"] Copper last night to find out [whatever it is I find out]

3.) I am Fate, the all powerful and omnipotent philosophical entity. I am also Warden of this prison, and should anyone make any mention of their cell being unlocked

Explain how filling in the blanks gets you mod killed.

[TheButtonmen]

EBWOP:

Copy Paste Fail

So as for what I did last night, I [we'll say, "observed"] Copper last night to find out [whatever it is I find out]

3.) I am Fate, the all powerful and omnipotent philosophical entity. I am also Warden of this prison, and should anyone make any mention of their cell being unlocked, I will execute them on the spot and put the prison on Lockdown.

Explain how filling in the blanks gets you mod killed.