Mini 1055 - Return to PEGBAM (Closing Time!)

[crywolf20084]

I may have time tonight or saturday to read, but tomorrow is pretty much booked solid between sleep class a paper and band/hockey game.

if i do look through it, don't expect some bloody wall of text analyzing everything that's happened.

[Porochaz]

Oh god I dont want you to make a wall of text. I just want you to actually be able to make informed decision.

[PJ.]

Cayke, Don't bother reading.

Important information is, That everyone in the game is here and Myk hasn't been hammered yet. Myk is Scum, with how powered the town was, there has to be 2 scum, cause the kidnapping stuff is assuredly a scum roleblocker role.

Can we hammer this scum now?

[Porochaz]

BOOBIEEEEEEES!!!

Cayke has BOOOOBBBBIIIIIIIEEEEEEES.

I found out today I have had a lot to drink, my first pub crawl, (really) and I drank a lot more than I thought was possible, the keys are sliding from beneath me and all is going dark in tis world apart from BBM his flame(axe) guides me through this dark period, or something. I hate self service checkouts. Where is the person, I like face to face contact. Like when I headbutt someone. I have found drunken psychopath wotrks well for me.

Did you see that man with a fucking goat for a head, he was like a goatman. Except in reverse. Like a zebra. He had a coat of shiny pebbles, like a fucking stripey horse. A STRIPEY HORSE I TELL YOU. In the end though, everyone had sex.

The end.

Reviews of my life story would be appreciated.

[crywolf20084]

I hate self service checkouts. Where is the person, I like face to face contact.

You should like an old fogie.


ANYWAYS I see your point, and an Iso on myk maybe in order sometime. I apologize for not reading anything last night. I blame several of my friends along with Viking-Ninja's everywhere.

[Porochaz]

Jesus...

[crywolf20084]

Okay so i have skimmed over the last 10 pages and i have no clue whats going on nor what to think at this time. I have a hockey game in 20 min so I won't be doing that right now.

[Shanba]

Calling it right now - Prozac/Myko

Vote: Mykonian

Any non-myko scum team has had plenty of time to hammer by now.

[Porochaz]

Goddamn it the last scum is Shanba... If I am around tomorrow/if there is a tomorrow I will prove it.

[Shanba]

Don't be a moron, prozac. You really think this setup was 1 cult 1 sk? In that case, what's up with the jailkeeping? Sks don't tend to have that kind of shit up their sleeves.

You'd be much better off bussing in this case.

[Porochaz]

Crap I thought that was lynch.

vote shanba

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 4.1

Mykonian [2] (Shanba, Panzerjager)
Shanba [2] (Prozac, Mykonian)

Not Voting [1] (Cayke)

[crywolf20084]

Are you kidding me.

You're making ME choose!?

[Shanba]

cay don't worry this is easy:

The facts:
- Panzer is cleared.
- Panzer is voting for myko
- There are almost certainly two scum
- no scum has hammered myko

CONCLUSION

myko is scum.

In the unlikely scenario that he isn't scum, then there is only one scum. In that case, we can't lose by hammering him.

On the other hand, if you hammer me, then we lose outright. If you think I'm scum, the correct way to play it is to hammer myko and then lynch me tomorrow. But I'm pretty damn confident that won't happen - it's prozac/myko.

(I suppose it oculd also be just Prozac, but that's a bridge we can cross tomorrow if it gets that far).

[mykonian]

cay don't worry this is easy:

The facts:
- Panzer is cleared.
- Panzer is voting for myko
- There are almost certainly two scum
- no scum has hammered myko

CONCLUSION

myko is scum.

In the unlikely scenario that he isn't scum, then there is only one scum. In that case, we can't lose by hammering him.

On the other hand, if you hammer me, then we lose outright. If you think I'm scum, the correct way to play it is to hammer myko and then lynch me tomorrow. But I'm pretty damn confident that won't happen - it's prozac/myko.

(I suppose it oculd also be just Prozac, but that's a bridge we can cross tomorrow if it gets that far).

Ok, this is the thing. I'm not scum. The fact that panzer votes me here means I probably lose. Then why am I not dead yet?

One slot didn't vote, and is stalling.
Shanba is trying to push my lynch through by saying that Panzer is town. (he isnt trying to convince Cay)
Prozac said he would prove shanba is scum... and doesn't do it.

Conclusion: Cay isn't in a scumteam, even she would have figured out by now that voting me would win her the game. Prozac isn't scum with Shanba, for the same reason. I'm not scum.

There is no mafia?

Cay, hammer. I don't mind if you hammer me, Shanba is completely right. Assuming that there is a mafia (and that is the name of the game), I'm scum. Except that I'm not

[Porochaz]

Well first, if there is a cult - as Omans role suggests, there is likely to be only 1 scum left.

Second, Panzer being cleared doesn't really mean anything here.

Third, the fact that you are setting me up for the next day doesn't have town shanbas motivations behind it.

Why do I think your scum, however? Im going to take a gambit here after a night to think about it. I think you know why I think your scum, because think I made it damn obvious to you alone, in the hope that you were town. However, I am an Inventor, n0, I gave scotmany some viagra, rohypnol and a pair of curtains. N1, I gave Jay, a hamster tied to a megaphone. (I think, it involved a hamster, a megaphone and a piece of string) and N2, I gave Shanba a toy bus.

I minorly breadcrumb here:

The next quote where you suggest that you didn't vote UK out of nowhere is true, you didn't. But you kinda did vote vezok out of nowhere. You gave no reasons for it. You didnt even try to invent something but you kept at it and I still have no idea why.

And here I start listing the things I give to Jay...

I was happy to stay off the wagons. I had no reason to vote either of you. The scot case was full of bs and a weak start and I felt F.F's case on MBF was town and similar to what I believed at the time. Your numbers are totally arbitrary though, I mean how long is a piece of a string?

Yes but as its an arbitrary bit of string, it's a but useless, for all I care you could stand on a box in the middle of times square with a megaphone and yell it at people. I would still go, "well those are nice numbers he has invented to make an argument that I cant possibly make a logical answer to"

Obviously hamster is a bit harder to fit into a post.

The proof, beyond the fact he pretty much stops going for me is in the fact he speaks in capitals all the following day, which I assume is the megaphone:

BY THE WAY, SINCE MY DAYCOP WAS BLOCKED BY BEING KIDNAPPED, I THINK IT'S P SAFE TO SAY THAT THE KIDNAPPER IS LIKELY SCUM AND PANZER IS THUS CLEAR, WHICH FLUSHES OUT NICELY WITH MY INNOCENT

I LIKE HOW I MANAGED TO TELEGRAPH MY RESULTS FOR TWO STRAIGHT DAYS WITHOUT ANYONE FIGURING ME OUT. THAT'S FUCKING TALENT RIGHT THERE IF I DO BOOST MY OWN EGO

Where this fits in with Shanba is that I make it clear that he recieved a toy bus from me, which should all but clear me.

Why?

Did I see you get on a bus tonight Shanba? Went out for Halloween down North Bridge and got overly excited cause I thought I saw you.

I mean apart from anything else, I haven't seen Shanba before, how do I know what he looks like? (FWAN possibly) and why would I have this conversation in scumchat? Seems like something I would do rather than delay the excitement in a thread at seeing another scummer.

He knew I gave him the box making me an inventor, the fact he is still pushing suspicion onto me, makes him scum.

[Porochaz]

Jesus Christ Myko give me 13 minutes...

[Shanba]

Prozac, you're always fricking drunk and raving about shit. I completely missed the inventor crumb. Yes, that probably clears you.

I did indeed receive a box last night.

[crywolf20084]

Unvote; Vote: Myko

[Shanba]

gg wp

[Flameaxe]

I count a lynch.

Mykonian - Zinedine Zidane - Psychotherapist - Lynched Day Four!

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Which means...

Shanba - Kirk Fogg - Mafia Kidnapper - Leaves PEGBAM as a winner

Panzerjager - Tim Tebow - Mafia Godfather - Leaves PEGBAM as a winner

Prozac - Steve Jobs - Inventor - Endgamed

Cayke/SpringLullaby - Mike Litoris - Vanilla Townie - Endgamed

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Quick setup comments:

-As with most of my cult setups, the cultees we're limited to vanilla townies, which included the tough guy and the one-shot kingmaker. They didn't get a N0 recruit, so good job JD for eliminating a faction on day one.
-The Kidnapper role was an idea PEG and I have thrown around for a long time, and we decided to give it a shot here. Not sure how well it worked. The kidnapping was effectively a roleblock on any player besides the inventor. Prozac's items we're passed out first, and then the kidnapping went through. In addition, as the kidnapping continued through the day, it did block JD's daycop ability.
-Psychotherapist was essentially a cult doctor. He prevented cultings on a person during the night. The role turned essential vanilla after day one though.
-JD's daycop found both cult and mafia, but there were no cult members.
-I may or may not be using the compulsive self-voting survivor in a future game.


Night Actions

[Shanba]

The last day when we'd already won (panzer was doubly cleared) and were just waiting for the win either today or tomorrow was pretty dull. Otherwise, a fairly decent game - it was great that the vig gave us a chance to off him (I was originally wary of getting on that wagon, but he kept digging the hole deeper and deeper and I gave in to the the temptation eventually - I figured that if he lived, we were probably virtually screwed anyway. Kill-immune vig is unbelievable powerful.). With the cult dead and the scary as fuck virtually invincible vig IWINBUTTON role dead, it was always going to be fairly smooth from there.

We communicated by AIM, but I saved all our convos in a qt if anyone cares.

[Flameaxe]

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/r37D74yc9NWV QT

[JDodge]

So let's see.

1. I caught two scum D1 go me

2. I lead the town and more importantly kept reigning in Shanba so he couldn't control our lynches as effectively

3. I stupidly forgot to outright tell you guys to lynch Shanba tomorrow on my death, my bad, thought that was pretty obvious by the fact that I told you guys I'd investigated him - wait shit forgot that too

4. Cay refusing to read is one of the things that cost the town the game

5. The kidnapper was the single most imbalanced role in the game

6. damnit UA

7. we could have done better if Prozac hadn't just spent his time contradicting me with no real reasoning other than "he's scum" and "i don't see your case"

[Shanba]

5. The kidnapper was the single most imbalanced role in the game

*cough* nk immune vig