Stars Aligned III - The Tenth Day


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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:39 am

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VP Baltar wrote:OK, well if we have Furc rob RC alone, that will essentially lessen the cost of robbing.

I'd be for dispatching both probably then. We then have three bodies to deal with and we have three chosen ones cross rob to clean up those bodies and prevent cult madness.

So for example:

RC = Furc
Fate = VP, Baby Spice
LB = Baby Spice, Wraith
Lynchee = Wraith, VP

or whatevs. We can't have unflipped bodies toward endgame, even if it is 99% likely Fate is town. WIFOM would make knowing when lylo is going to occur very difficult.
let me rob someone else alone
i dont need the rez kit
lets vote on who can rob RC that is probably town
also, there is no fucking way I want baby spice or wraith to be robbing
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:45 am

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Furc, xvart warded El Goosuki.

I'd be okay with Wicked submitting Launder and Rob Grave on RC (if he doesn't launder he can't get the kit.) Scum could have planned the kill/res on a buddy but that seems pretty unlikely to me.
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:48 am

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oh, right, i saw that
he was confirming my n1 action... or n0, whatever
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:49 am

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I'd be okay with Wicked submitting Launder and Rob Grave on RC (if he doesn't launder he can't get the kit.) Scum could have planned the kill/res on a buddy but that seems pretty unlikely to me.
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:50 am

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nothing is certain
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:50 am

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who is compiling a claims list?
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:51 am

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Some down time before dinner:

I don't think the modkill of RC indicates alignment, although Fate alluded to thinking he was town based on whatever comment was made. However, due to LB's death and their defense of RC late game when his wagon was rising, it is my opinion that we need to make RC dead now. Fate, for all practical matters, can stay Soulless for now.
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I went to rob RC's grave while warding El Goosuki. I sent in that action. Vi said I cannot rob the soulless, so I decided to search for a res kit instead (I wanted RC's in the first place). El goosuki saying they heard noise when I stated I was going to be warding them in the thread gives me 1 of 2 scenarios imo:

1) cult sent fetishes to nearly the entire town (this would explain their lack of a kill)
2) el goosuki is lying cult who expected to be warded

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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:58 am

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i believe i made that pretty clear
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 10:59 am

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dispatch: rc
dispatch: fate
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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:00 am

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Furcolow wrote:
VP Baltar wrote:OK, well if we have Furc rob RC alone, that will essentially lessen the cost of robbing.

I'd be for dispatching both probably then. We then have three bodies to deal with and we have three chosen ones cross rob to clean up those bodies and prevent cult madness.

So for example:

RC = Furc
Fate = VP, Baby Spice
LB = Baby Spice, Wraith
Lynchee = Wraith, VP

or whatevs. We can't have unflipped bodies toward endgame, even if it is 99% likely Fate is town. WIFOM would make knowing when lylo is going to occur very difficult.
let me rob someone else alone
i dont need the rez kit
lets vote on who can rob RC that is probably town
also, there is no fucking way I want baby spice or wraith to be robbing
xvart, when i said "i don't need the res kit" here, why do you think I don't need it anymore?
Also, in my original claim post, I stated "I wanted RC's res kit, but Vi didn't let me rob/ward, so ..."
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:15 am

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AurorusVox wrote:
Mod: do dead people still gain insanities from their own insanity-causing night actions if they were killed before/simultaneous to said action?
Dead people can pick up Insanities right up to when they die.
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:20 am

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Did you Hear Noise?
Yes.
Did you Ward? If so, who?
No
Did you gain Insanities, and if so, which ones and from what actions?
No
List all of the insanities you currently have:

Did you
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No.
Were you murdered?
No
Did you Commune or Investigate? If so, who, and what result? (Note that these are both poor N1 choices.)
No
Twitch?
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:32 am

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Thank you for taking care of The First Night, Vi!

I apologise for foisting a new mechanic on you all at such short notice. It was a necessary fix, as I had not devoted enough time to consider how modkilling players would interfere with the game mechanics.

ReaperCharlie and Fate can be Dispatched at any time, and this in no way interferes with the Day's lynching. If they are not Dispatched today, they can be targeted by any action that could target a living player - this includes actions such as
Commune
and
Stalk
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Rob Grave
. If they are Dispatched, they immediately become
Dead
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Rob Grave
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Investigator
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I will update the flavour as soon as I get home (Saturday).
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:40 am

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Out of the list, who do you want to rob Furc?

Also, I personally want Benmage on the robbing list...that was more of an example than anything else. Though Baby Spice completely ignoring it makes me definitely think she should stay on it. I can see Baby Spice cult trying to get out of robbing by saying nothing and hoping the list changes.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:41 am

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*twitch*
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Did you Commune or Investigate? If so, who, and what result? (Note that these are both poor N1 choices.)
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I'm mega busy at work for the next hour or so, I've seen some things in the posts that I want to comment on.

I have one question though

Mod:
Craft Fetish rules wrote: This action will fail if your target has also been the target of Pass Fetish.
What does this mean? Since I have now been a target of Pass Fetish, does this mean no more fetishes of me can be crafted?
If so, was it possible for cultists to craft multiple fetishes of me during N0,?
Because if no more can be crafted, and it wasn't possible to craft multiple, then I'm immune to ritual.
And from a skim, it seems wraith is too.

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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:42 am

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@mod: Can one cultist craft a fetish of me the same night another cultist passes a fetish of me?
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:44 am

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Never mind the last question. New question: Can a cultist craft several fetishes of the same person in one night?
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:45 am

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Wraith, I'm almost certain that's not possible, based on the rule I quoted, so it comes down to the rest of my questions.

Also, I'm happy for both Fate and RC to be dispatched, with RC taking preference over Fate, since Fate's almost certainly town.

I haven't read thoroughly enough to see any plans, which is why I'm not voting for dispatches just yet.
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:46 am

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CD2
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Did you Hear Noise? Yes

Did you Ward? If so, who? No

Did you gain Insanities, and if so, which ones and from what actions? No

List all of the insanities you currently have: None

Did you
successfully
resuscitate? No

Were you murdered? Apparently not

Did you Commune or Investigate? No


I don't think there's a huge advantage to be gained by dispatching either of our bleached comrades just now. It'd be interesting to know what ReaperCharlie's alignment was; but we can already make a pretty educated guess that he was town from what we know about Fate's offence. Fate's confusing - but I think the "tactical advantage" he was modkilled for was simply proving that he was town. If the advantage was getting a free kill on a townie, then he could have had that simply by staying on the RC wagon.

Given we think they're both probably town, I think they should stay alive. No need to put more potential corpse-dust into circulation, no need to take more insanities on townies. And if Lost Butterfly turns out to be cult, we could have a significant numbers advantage at this point - 0 townies dead for 1 cult - there's no need to help them even the score.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:46 am

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Craft Fetish rules wrote:This action will fail if your target has also been the target of Pass Fetish
that Night
.
New question: Can a cultist craft several fetishes of the same person in one night?
No.
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:47 am

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I have no clue the ins and outs of this game, but seacore how can you rationalize thinking pass fetish immunes you for the rest of the games.
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:48 am

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Okay, just read Furcolow's post on his night action:

DID ANYONE ELSE DO ANYTHING TO EL GOOSUKI THAT WOULD CAUSE HIM TO HEAR NOISE?

Predit: Okay. Anyone else receive fetishes? Furc said they passed to a lot of people (?)
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:48 am

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Benmage wrote:I have no clue the ins and outs of this game, but seacore how can you rationalize thinking pass fetish immunes you for the rest of the games.
Lolno. Pass fetish makes you safe from cultkill only for the next night, because they have to make a new fetish of you for use in the ritual.
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:48 am

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Vi wrote:
Craft Fetish rules wrote:This action will fail if your target has also been the target of Pass Fetish
that Night
.
New question: Can a cultist craft several fetishes of the same person in one night?
No.

Okay so if Wraith and I are telling the truth, we're both immune to ritual during N2. Well that's something to be happy about. Wards for us tonight please.
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Wed Nov 03, 2010 11:50 am

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Okay, caught up, now know that xvart warded El Goos.
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