NY 118 - BBM's Large Normal Mafia (Game!)

[Flameaxe]

Looking for a replacement for Eek. Whoever does replace is insane for agreeing to read all 95 pages.

[flinter]

Another quick night.

Prozac - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night Six

Shanba - Mason - Killed Night Six

That leaves six alive, which makes it 4 votes to lynch, and 3 votes for a no lynch.

Deadline:

Nov 11th.

I wonder, would Porochaz be able to replace? Shanba obvious can't because there might be a third mason. Porochaz would have to reread less of the game if he agreed. Would any of the players be opposed to this?

[Flameaxe]

It would be very, very last option for me. I am (as a player and a mod) opposed to replacing back into a game. I feel as if a player was killed for a reason, and to let them back into the game would undermine said kill. Just my thoughts.

[Wraith]

I think I might, since Prozac was pretty bent on lynching me yesterday.

[DemonHybrid]

Why not just give them a quick overview? Little 2 sentence statements that wrap up each day.

I, for one, would not object to being more lenient with missed information and will correct them as needed.

[evilpacman18]

Ugh... I'd suggest just lynching MME if it wouldn't most likely seal the town's loss.

I'm not sure what to say, this is super inconvenient. I'd be up for letting Poro replace him, sounds like the best idea. We're not too far from needing the very, very last option.

[Antihero]

Another quick night.

Prozac - Vanilla Townie - Killed Night Six

Shanba - Mason - Killed Night Six

That leaves six alive, which makes it 4 votes to lynch, and 3 votes for a no lynch.

Deadline:

Nov 11th.

I wonder, would Porochaz be able to replace? Shanba obvious can't because there might be a third mason. Porochaz would have to reread less of the game if he agreed. Would any of the players be opposed to this?

I'm cool with it, but the mod and/or Poro might not be.

MME, please, please, please, please come back.

[Wraith]

Ugh, just do it. I'm tired of waiting.

[Flameaxe]

Etherdent replaces My Milked Eek, effective immediately. Carry on.

<Requested Eloquent Cutscene Goes Here, eventually...>

[EtherDent]

Yo. Obviously I probably won't be reading the whole game, but I'll try to look into at least some of it shortly. Is there anything I should know?

-Ether

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 7.3

DemonHybrid [3] (Wraith, Flinter, Evilpacman)

Flinter [1] (Demonhybrid)

Not Voting [3] (EtherDent, Antihero)

With 6 alive, it will take 4 votes to lynch a player, and 3 votes to no lynch.

Deadline:

November 11th
Prodding: No one!

[EtherDent]

I'm not a vig.

@Antihero: The "Kingmaker Situation" I refer to is a situation where there are two killing parties still alive with town in between. If we mislynch today and the scum/SK don't kill each other, the situation will be:

2 Townies
1 Scum
1 SK

At that point the town can't win, because they will lynch one party and the other will kill+endgame the other townies. It's basically the killer-parties voting for each other and the town playing "kingmaker" in crowning who wins the game.

Actually, town frequently wins there. The optimal play is to lynch a townie (when there are four people--with three, things get simpler and you just force a no-lynch) and let prisoner's dilemma do the rest. Scum do their best to crosskill each other, and if both of them succeed, there's only one townie left standing at the end. That's a town win. It's a distasteful situation, but it's only unwinnable if you're assuming the serial killer (or possibly a godfather) is bulletproof.

Are you assuming that, Wraith?

-Ether

[Wraith]

I don't think the SK is bulletproof. If he's any variation, I'd bet on investigation-immune.

[Wraith]

Oh wait, forgot this was a normal. He's probably just a vanilla SK.

[EtherDent]

Why were you making a different assumption in your earlier post?

Would somebody please unvote DemonHybrid? I'm not saying he's scum, and I'm not saying he's not (if I can get sparknotes on why he is, I'd appreciate it), but I feel uncomfortable being in a position where Antihero (or Demonhybrid himself, if there are two mafia) can end the day at their leisure.

-Ether

[Wraith]

???

I wasn't? I don't know what you're talking about.

And Antihero has had PLENTY of time to end the day.

[EtherDent]

At that point the town can't win,

Yeah, that's a pretty strong assumption there. Let's talk about your experience with this type of endgame.

Do you want Antihero to end the day while I'm still trying to get caught up (y/n)?

-Ether

[EtherDent]

I mean, to even have the chance. He told no one to hammer because my predecessor hadn't posted yet, but the situation has clearly changed. I'm not saying he will hammer, but there's something about a guy being at -1 while I'm trying to get a proper grip on the game that sets me on edge.

-Ether

[EtherDent]

PS. Hi, DemonHybrid! I see you've posted in another game about five minutes ago. You wanna talk with me?

-Yup, still Ether

[DemonHybrid]

What's up?

[EtherDent]

You scum?

-Ether

[DemonHybrid]

No, ma'am. =(

I have a bogus argument on me at the moment. Have you read that and my response to flinter?

Abridged: I voted for singer, but EPM hammered while indicating he thought she was already town in the first place. Day starts, and I vote him for a terrible hammer. People voted me for being a hypocrite because they think that I was opposed to the singer hammer this day when in actuality, I was opposed to hammering her when EPM clearly stated he was town.

flinter's attitude bad logic put her over the top, so I switched over to her. I'd say that if there was 1 scum left, it'd be flinter. 2 scum, flinter and Wraith. I'm confident that EPM is the 2nd killer, whether he be a daily vig or an SK, but more likely SK with that attitude.

[DemonHybrid]

EBWOP: "I was opposed to hammering her when EPM clearly stated she was town."

I guess he just was more entranced with either being bad town wanting information from the flip or, of course, lynching whoever and not caring. Willing to go with the 2nd option, especially after an opportunistic vote on me last page.

[DemonHybrid]

EBWOP2: "People voted me for being a hypocrite because they think that I was opposed to the singer

wagon

"

You need to bear with me. I had a fever 2 days ago. Now it's the full blown flu.

[EtherDent]

Thanks for that.

Aside from the conversation I'm having with Wraith, I have found exactly one thing in my own reads that I find interesting so far. (Namely, I'm about 99% sure evilpacman isn't mafia. But I'm assuming from what you just said that that isn't a groundbreaking find at all.)

-Ether