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[Jahudo]

So when Espy originally voted SC he said this:

VOTE: SC

His iso looks very under the radarish after setting up a rqs that he likes.

No mention of scum, but "under the radar" sounds like you think it was a deliberate act, Espy, and not a player that doesn't know he's too quiet. Is that what you meant Espy?

[Bub Bidderskins]

I answered your goddamn question already. Learn how to read.

I looked back at your posts.

*open palm; insert face*

My bad; sorry.

I'm also sorry for not posting much recently, my computer has been down and I have not been able to get much access.

@mod:

limited access

for this reason

[cateraction]

Cater 88 - That "meh" feeling about 86...times 100. Care to elaborate on this one please?

He voted for Blackberry with reason and then switched his vote to sc with no reason.

Excellent job answer my actual question. Now, why did you vote for me? I didn't vote for BlackBerry because I thought he was scum, I voted for him to get the game moving in the right direction.

You voted him (bringing more attention to what he was doing) in order to deflect attention away from his question? Explain.

UNVOTE: SC

SCs rebuttal actually gives me even worse scummy vibes from him but tbh I don't think he is scum yet. Not sure where my vote should go for now but I may as well leave it off for now.

He's scummy but not scummy? Setting yourself up to go either way.

Vote: Espeonage

[Flameaxe]

Part reminder to myself to make a better post tomorrow, part asking the mod a question:

Prozac

: You'll probably be doing one without this request, but votecount? Also, Moo has yet to post. Not to be a nag here, but are we in the replacement zone, or possibly second-prod zone?

[StrangerCoug]

If I don't get enough support for Bub Bidderskins (I'm just worried about my original vote reason now), I'll happily switch over to Espeonage.

[Porochaz]

Crap apologies I got a PM from Moo telling me she was v/la until the 30th, bit off the ball atm.

Votecount coming in a sec plus prods.

[Porochaz]

Moospiker - 1 - Flameaxe
Blackberry - 1 - Jahudo
Strangercoug - 1 - Bub
Bub - 2 -Blackberry, StrangerCoug
Esp - 4 - xvart, q21, drmyshotty, cateraction

Not voting - 4 - Moospiker, xRECKONERx, Espeonage

Deadline is: 2nd November

Espeonage will be prodded.

[Jahudo]

That explains Moo's absence, something I was wondering about.

I'm just worried about my original vote reason now

Why is that?

[Espeonage]

See sig. I'm back now. Expect something in the next two days. I have numerous prods to respond to and it's after midnight.

[q21]

I look forward to your response Espeonage... I guess it will only be tomorrow, but its something. I think this game would benefit from some activity from the currently largest wagon.

[StrangerCoug]

That explains Moo's absence, something I was wondering about.

I'm just worried about my original vote reason now

Why is that?

Part of the reasoning for Bub Bidderskins after I voted him was that he would not tell me what was wrong with the answer to his question and insisted that I ignored it. Now that he's realized I did not do so, I'm not going to push him for that anymore. His voting Blackberry for asking a theory question still stands as part of my case.

[xRECKONERx]

Blackberry, what about xvart's vote on Espeonage?

[Jahudo]

unvote;
Vote: Espeonage

(L-2)

His unvote could make sense if his SC vote started off like a RVS vote, but it was serious from the start. So what it looks like is, he started investigating someone he thought could be scum; he found more reasoning to think scum; he unvotes. It doesn't make sense.

His voting Blackberry for asking a theory question still stands as part of my case.

Ok, gotcha. I thought you were worried in a confidence sense, but you say you are still concerned with how Bub voted Blackberry.

I do think he could have handled the situation in a more straight-forward way, where his vote would have been open to less interpretation from the start. But he did explain himself pretty quick, so its hard to say he could have been thinking opportunistically. So I share some of that concern but do not think he is the most suspicious one here.

[Flameaxe]

While I have no objections to an Espy lynch right now, I'm waiting for his promised post before action.

[q21]

[b[Unvote. Vote Espeonage[/b] (Still L-2)


Just feels like I'm doing something this way. We don't even have a good defence/ chainsaw defence to spark some discussion. This wagon is becoming useless, but he's still the scummiest player so far. I'm caught between vote the scum or move on in an attempt to generate more info... vote the scum wins, but only just.

[q21]

EBWOP

Unvote. Vote Espeonage

(Still L-2)


Just feels like I'm doing something this way. We don't even have a good defence/ chainsaw defence to spark some discussion. This wagon is becoming useless, but he's still the scummiest player so far. I'm caught between vote the scum or move on in an attempt to generate more info... vote the scum wins, but only just.

[StrangerCoug]

Some of the votes may be ill-reasoned if reasoned at all, but if someone is "the scummiest player so far," then the wagon on him is not 100% useless. That's a contradiction of terms to me.

[q21]

Some of the votes may be ill-reasoned if reasoned at all, but if someone is "the scummiest player so far," then the wagon on him is not 100% useless. That's a contradiction of terms to me.

What I mean is that its not currently doing anything for the game. It isn't generating discussion and therefore not generating info. Its great for the town if we can get some activity going, lynch him and get a scum flip (which I feel more likely than a town flip at the moment). I didn't say the wagon was 100% useless I said it was becoming useless - the lack of activity around it is a large factor in the game's stagnation and if that stagnation continues we will get to the deadline ad though Espy will be lynched there will be almost nothing to draw from that lynch (in the form of VC analysis, interactions, etc) other than the flip itself.

Aside: If this game didn't have an special deadline lynch threshold then the stagnation would lead to a no lynch the the wagon would indeed become 100% useless.

[Bub Bidderskins]

Okay, my computer's been fixed and I'm getting caught up in all my games right now.

So far this game has been kind of in-active. We need to hear more from espeonage.

Oi espy, what do you think of the wagon on you? I would like to see a good case on Espy before I commit to lynch him, though.

[Porochaz]

People were prodded and yelled at, Blackberry, xvart and shotty that is.

[xvart]

Sorry about the need to be prodded. Waiting on Espeonage.

What I mean is that its not currently doing anything for the game. It isn't generating discussion and therefore not generating info.

It isn't generating discussion because Espeonage hasn't commented or defended himself. But it is interesting that you join a wagon and claim it useless.

xvart.

[StrangerCoug]

Some of the votes may be ill-reasoned if reasoned at all, but if someone is "the scummiest player so far," then the wagon on him is not 100% useless. That's a contradiction of terms to me.

What I mean is that its not currently doing anything for the game. It isn't generating discussion and therefore not generating info. Its great for the town if we can get some activity going, lynch him and get a scum flip (which I feel more likely than a town flip at the moment). I didn't say the wagon was 100% useless I said it was becoming useless - the lack of activity around it is a large factor in the game's stagnation and if that stagnation continues we will get to the deadline ad though Espy will be lynched there will be almost nothing to draw from that lynch (in the form of VC analysis, interactions, etc) other than the flip itself.

Aside: If this game didn't have an special deadline lynch threshold then the stagnation would lead to a no lynch the the wagon would indeed become 100% useless.

OK, this makes better sense.

[drmyshottyizsik]

prodded
waiting on esp

[Porochaz]

In an effort to push up activity, some ammendments will take place.

1. Prods will still be for 72 hours non posting. But if someone has not posted for 48 hours, you may request and get a prod then. Weekends count as weekends and not a single day. V/LA will be taken into consideration with this.
2. Whilst I strive (and thus far failed) to do a vote count every page, I will check for prods every day, I will try and do a votecount every day provided there is a new page worth of content.
3. Deadline is still Nov 2nd, however if I have to prod 3 people or more in a 72 hour period, the deadline will be taken forward 24 hours. This will not happen if deadline is less than 48 hours away, instead the 24 hours will be deducted from the next day.

[StrangerCoug]

I'm done waiting.

UNVOTE: Bub Bidderskins
VOTE: Espeonage