Stars Aligned III - The Tenth Day

[Furcolow]

Of course my opinion is best only I know myself to be town.

Err I hate phone posting...at work now....I only know my alignment, not others so I don't adhere usually to other influences....and yes I think highly of my abilities.

so you're claiming the majority is not going to be town? when you say that you "don't adhere to other influences", if the entire player list voted, it would be 75% town. It would also show us alignment based upon voting, and this issue is very polarizing so it would help us get information.

encouraging you all to vote on whether or not he should do the kill

... The rules never said how many people are scum

VOTE: Furcolow

From what I have seen of Benmage v Fate, I do not think that Benmage should kill Fate. It is true that they will continue bickering, but I would prefer not to have town killed by something as stupid as the fact that 2 players don't like each other. If anything I think it is scummy that Benmage is trying to use that logic.

Please tell me if I have anything wrong about the relationship between the two, as I just did a quick skim over what has happened.

it was 1/4th last time
percy is the same guy
i assumed it was 1/4th this time

you guys need to learn to think

@aurorusvox

"If he crafted a fetish on Fate, even if Fate died, how would we know it was a murder and not a Ritual that had taken place?"

kills have flavor......................

[Furcolow]

i can clarify the ward action...
warding = you don't hear noise
getting warded = you hear noise
warding someone who is warding = counteracting wards
warding prevents actions listed in terms of roleblocking, but is not a cure-all roleblock. it does not prevent murders/rituals.

Thought my hearing noise was a side-effect of my warding RC. I heard noise.

ok, good.

RC you ok with ressing rewq?

also, i'm not going murderer. i like to fucking win.

[Furcolow]

if 21 investigators inhibit them 15% everytime... HMM I WONDER.
It's not clearly worth it for them, it is clearly worth it for us from my perspective.
5/7 will be needed for them to even kill past a res, like if I ressed VP Baltar and they ritualled him... it wouldn't work (I don't have a res kit, unfortunately) unless they had 5/7. Where they would have to have 1/7 ressing fate, assuming fate is even cult, then that would leave them to either pick someone to kill who didn't claim they heard noise (otherwise they are likely to be ressed and require 5/7 to go one up on the res via ritual), or they will only have 1 person crafting fetishes, and that one person can only make 2 or gain an insanity which hurts cult that way as well..

therefore, it is even above 15% in terms of inhibiting them, as they have to either run the risk of losing their NK, gaining an insanity if they want a 3rd fetish crafted, or play stupidly.

^All of this is well thought out. Could be a little too well thought out - I'm thinking that this "5/7" would spring to a cultist's mind quicker than it would to a townie. Overall though, I think Furcolow has started the game sided with the town. Whether or not he has intentions of becoming a killer later, I'm not sure...

Or, I could be a smart Investigator, who read the fucking rules, and has a brain....... i wonder....

[Furcolow]

sorry for quad post, but i want to rectify a few things:

1) sorry to be so abrasive, but you all feel lost when I'm typically the lost-VI
2) I feel as if I understand the game completely, or moreso than others, however, even if not completely
3) We need to coordinate who we should lynch, our actions tomorrow night, and get more information on who heard noise
Q) What are everyones' thoughts on everyone stalking and killing one person? I feel this could help the town.

[kunkstar7]

1)No
2)No
3)Agreed, that's how you play mafia.
Q)No. Uncessary insanities, greater chance of murderers getting by.

[rewq455]

sorry for quad post, but i want to rectify a few things:

1) sorry to be so abrasive, but you all feel lost when I'm typically the lost-VI
2) I feel as if I understand the game completely, or moreso than others, however, even if not completely
3) We need to coordinate who we should lynch, our actions tomorrow night, and get more information on who heard noise
Q) What are everyones' thoughts on everyone stalking and killing one person? I feel this could help the town.

I agree with number three.

About the question, I say no. It will give murderers a better chance of hiding, will increase the chance of chaos, and there would be a higher chance of hitting town than scum. I am all for mass warding and rezing though. If ward stops craft fetish, and the scum only have X fetishes tonight, they could not craft any new ones due to the wards, effectively removing the scums night kill. Also, if we ward in circles, as in A wards B, B wards C, C wards A, we can tell who is doing something at night besides warding if the person they are supposed to be warding is killed. This should eliminate the scums night kill. The only flaw with this plan is that we would not have grave robbers, so we would not know the faction of people being killed.

[Furcolow]

on 2), address why the fuck i've been the one having to tell people how actions resolve and shit, then, kunk...
i am kind of against the Q i asked myself, but it could end in a quick win, you know that right?
only reason *I* am against it, is not murderers, but because of chaos.

good post rewq, beat me to it.
we could have benmage rob graves after he kills fate though... or just have a few graverobbers unwarded, but then those in the ward circle could rob graves when needed... we need to see flips, or i wouldnt care. actually, we could randomly choose to ward gravesights when we please to prevent them from getting dust and not worry about flip... but then we would be stuck in WIFOM land with basically janitorized roles.

[Benmage]

@Aurora fate prob. Did whatever the cult wanted him to do.

[Wickedestjr]

Hey guys. I heard noise despite not warding. Catching up now.

[Furcolow]

@benmage why arent u at work

[Benmage]

Nvm on the fate should Ward thing...not saying he don't have to tho.

Fate, mind claiming what you did do last night?

[Benmage]

@benmage why arent u at work

I am, I am on my phone.

[kunkstar7]

@Furcolow: Why would you suggest something you are against?

[Furcolow]

addict!

also, rc, consider protecting wickedestjr

(or anyone who acquired res kit)

[Furcolow]

@Furcolow: Why would you suggest something you are against?

I am on the fence on the question I proposed. It could REALLY win the game for us, or it could turn us into zombies if noone launders. If people promise to launder, then I would be for it.

[kunkstar7]

Funny thing, your slot suggested the same thing SA2. It won't be implemented in this game for the same reason it was opposed in the last game. Updating xvart's chart.

[Furcolow]

Funny thing, your slot suggested the same thing SA2. It won't be implemented in this game for the same reason it was opposed in the last game. Updating xvart's chart.

coincedence? I THINK NOT.

[AurorusVox]

kills have flavor

Then I'm for testing Benmage's kill.

@Aurora fate prob. Did whatever the cult wanted him to do.

Why would he PTW for cult, but not for town?

There's a problem with warding/rezzing in circles, and that's if the cult uses the Greater Ritual, since it would take two rezzes to stop the kill going through.

[ReaperCharlie]

Sexy.

I knew you had an affinity towards lists, so I thought you would like it. Maybe we can color code it too?

xvart.

colors come later when we get flips ;P

Vote: xvart

Obvious 'make list to look town via null information accrual' is obvious.

I somewhat agree but I highly doubt xvart will be today's lynch. Something to keep an eye on, tho.

She would've if she was investigator. Fate has no allegiance to PTW. Fate would gladly lynch me or kill me (as town) if I was modconfirmed as town. Thats how awesome (sarcasm) she is. She probably did something else the cult wanted from her.

So Fate is one o' them ... you-know-whats? 0_0

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Sounds warm. Very warm in fact. Fate is like the Hyde to Vi's Jekyll. f*ck.

Wait.

Oh no guyz. I have hydra'd with a chick. Is that, like, cheating on my wife? /slits wrists

[kunkstar7]

About the question, I say no. It will give murderers a better chance of hiding, will increase the chance of chaos, and there would be a higher chance of hitting town than scum. I am all for mass warding and rezing though. If ward stops craft fetish, and the scum only have X fetishes tonight, they could not craft any new ones due to the wards, effectively removing the scums night kill. Also, if we ward in circles, as in A wards B, B wards C, C wards A, we can tell who is doing something at night besides warding if the person they are supposed to be warding is killed. This should eliminate the scums night kill. The only flaw with this plan is that we would not have grave robbers, so we would not know the faction of people being killed.

The flaw with a mass ward circle is in the fact that a ward on a player warding cancels that players ward.

@Furcolow, if you are suggesting something, just say it outright.

[ReaperCharlie]

Fate/Benmage is interesting. Out of the two, I'm pretty sure Benmage is scum.

Either that, or they both are. The distancing from both sides seems pretty obvgay.

Vote: Benmage

for now. Let's see what happens in the rest of my read.

[Furcolow]

kills have flavor

Then I'm for testing Benmage's kill.

@Aurora fate prob. Did whatever the cult wanted him to do.

Why would he PTW for cult, but not for town?

There's a problem with warding/rezzing in circles, and that's if the cult uses the Greater Ritual, since it would take two rezzes to stop the kill going through.

takes 5/7, totally worth it

@Rc, what should I get out of your post?
RC, consider ressing wickedestjr or rewq

@kunk, what do you mean? are you saying that as "advice for later", or what? I have nothing on my chest right now

[SpyreX]

Jesus game.

I heard no noise. I did not ward.

I've read some of the SA II but haven't played in any.

THAT SAID:

Fate & Ben: This shit stops. Now. FURTHER, if Fate shows up Murdered tonight I swear to everything holy REGARDLESS OF HIS DAMN ALIGNMENT you are dead. Soon.

For 10 pages in though minus that slapfight there's some good things a happenin'. Like a laundry list of towns being all towns BUT THIS CAN WAIT.

Unvote, Vote: AurousVox

This struck me as anti-town (it was later retracted, but was this because Fur didn't want to look anti-town, or because he didn't want to be anti-town?)

Whilst this plea looks pro-town on first glance, it makes me worried that Fur is already planning on going the killer route. By stressing that town can win if they band together, by stressing that no one needs to make a second kill - if he then goes on to become a murderer, he may have dissuaded some people from taking that route, thus increasing his chances. Moreover, finding out who stalked also tells him who his competition could be later in the game.

It is POSSIBLE that he Stalked but didn't want to admit it yet, was caught in Lynch All Liars, appealed to the mod in desperation, and was fortunate that the rules had changed. Admittedly, that is a stretch (besides, in my opinion scum would have more likely said "Oh wait I stalked, whoops wrong thing!"), but it IS possible. In Hito's "confirm" he only mentions that El heard noise, not the fact that Furc didn't hear noise. It looks a little suspect, as does the fact that Furc is constantly affirming how great Hito is - but Hito is otherwise giving me a townie vibe and Furc has actually otherwise had some good pro-town moves:

^All of this is well thought out. Could be a little too well thought out - I'm thinking that this "5/7" would spring to a cultist's mind quicker than it would to a townie. Overall though, I think Furcolow has started the game sided with the town. Whether or not he has intentions of becoming a killer later, I'm not sure...

Lets start this party off with something important: Fur is town. Not because of the confirm business - its just one of those actually playing like a brofessional things I like.

So, the confirm part I can get behind as per MoI's.

But this?

We get a LOT of words that say, all nice and quantified, Fur is a stalker, no wait, he's cult, no wait, I think he's town.

And, of course, no vote - because he thinks he's town BUTTT quantified enough that a wagon jumpin dance party can take place.

F--

[kunkstar7]

No I meant in regards to the coincidence comment. It implies that there was reasoning for doing the same thing as your predecessor.

[ReaperCharlie]

I can say with absolute certainty this is the best lynch of the day. Those who start weighing in and don't notice this will be heavily scrutinized.

Um, no.

Already disliking Triglav.

You mean like you pre-emptively dislike all hydras? Supernatural comes to mind.

I didn't even think about getting books or a kit
I feel like an idiot

Yeah, except Percy LISTED ALL THE CHOICES IN THE NIGHT ACTION SOLICITATION PM HE SENT EACH OF US.

/FACEPALM

oh wait I found something quite juicy. Stand by, Ion Control.

Fire.