Mini 1055 - Return to PEGBAM (Closing Time!)

[scotmany12]

Also, if I'm not lynched, I'm not going to have you guys direct my nightkills. First, we don't know if the scum have the ability to protect or roleblock, and if they do, then it would open up a lot of wifom if my nightkill was blocked. And second, if I were to disagree with your choices, I wouldn't listen to them.

Well, barring further changes I'll move to scot pre-deadline.

Scot: It actually reminds me more of the sort of thing people used to say when someone was making some funky plays: "you're either dumb or you're scum and either way town's better off with you dead." It's policy lynchish, but it has more than a small seasoning of "what you're doing is scummy, and the only way you could think that way as town is that you're stupid."

In other words, there's an element of policy lynch but a large component of scumminess mixed in.

I asked because JD wrote an entire essay in MD on why policy lynching is bad. Yes, he thinks I'm scummy, but he reverted to policy reasons in trying to convince you to lynch me. It's at least something to think about after you lynch me.

[GhostWriter]

Myk, I have played at least one game through to completion with JDodge, Ani, MBF, Oman, Panzer, Poro, SL, and I think even Shanba in the past, before I took an extensive leave from the site. I've played with Vezo more recently, and I think I'm in at least one ongoing game with UA. That's half off the top of my head, half helped from the archives. I chose JDodge because I knew him to be a good player. Didn't remember him playing like this, nor did I/have I checked it against previous games with him. At the time, I was choosing between him and MBF.

[JDodge]

Also, if I'm not lynched, I'm not going to have you guys direct my nightkills. First, we don't know if the scum have the ability to protect or roleblock, and if they do, then it would open up a lot of wifom if my nightkill was blocked. And second, if I were to disagree with your choices, I wouldn't listen to them.

Perfect! Then it's settled then. All aboooooard!

We as a town have no reason to keep you if we can't trust you, yet you expect us to trust you to kill people for us. Not happening. You're also not in a position to bargain here - you do as the town says or the town lynches you. If you survive today, you

will

vig UA tonight, or you

will

be our target for tomorrow. Got it?

Well, barring further changes I'll move to scot pre-deadline.

Scot: It actually reminds me more of the sort of thing people used to say when someone was making some funky plays: "you're either dumb or you're scum and either way town's better off with you dead." It's policy lynchish, but it has more than a small seasoning of "what you're doing is scummy, and the only way you could think that way as town is that you're stupid."

In other words, there's an element of policy lynch but a large component of scumminess mixed in.

I asked because JD wrote an entire essay in MD on why policy lynching is bad. Yes, he thinks I'm scummy, but he reverted to policy reasons in trying to convince you to lynch me. It's at least something to think about after you lynch me.

It's not policy reasons; it's just good business.

Shanba, your time is up. It's pre-deadline now, we either lynch or we don't.

[UltimaAvalon]

I am officially putting the L-1 vote on Scot

Unvote
Vote: Scot

[Flameaxe]

There will probably be a votecount here when im sobered up. Probably.

[Shanba]

Aight.

Unvote Vote: Scot

[mykonian]

Votecount 2.6

Scotmany12 [3] (Panzerjager, JDodge, Mykonian)
Mykonian [3] (Shanba, Springlullaby, Scotmany12)
UltimaAvalon [1] (UltimaAvalon)
Panzerjager [1] (Prozac)

Not Voting [1] (Ghostwriter)

With 9 players present, it will take 5 votes to lynch!

Prodding: No one. Pestering Panzer on AIM.

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Deadline:

October 17th, evening.

YEEEHAAAAA. Didn't know Flava acted that scummy, I thought he was a decent player... I'm claiming as it is the deadline today, and my role is already useless (I think). The role pm was intentionally vague.

I'm the psychotherapist. I can keep someone sane at night. I think this means I was a balancing role against Oman's cult.

Question to everyone: would you say JD is trying to get shanba and others to now policy lynch me for being "functionally retarded?"

If you are going to defend yourself with a strawman, don't use a question. It really makes you look scummy, as it is very clear you aren't expecting an answer.

Myk, I have played at least one game through to completion with JDodge, Ani, MBF, Oman, Panzer, Poro, SL, and I think even Shanba in the past, before I took an extensive leave from the site. I've played with Vezo more recently, and I think I'm in at least one ongoing game with UA. That's half off the top of my head, half helped from the archives. I chose JDodge because I knew him to be a good player. Didn't remember him playing like this, nor did I/have I checked it against previous games with him. At the time, I was choosing between him and MBF.

It was a good choice. If you didn't know the players, it wouldn't have been a very big towntell. Now it is.

[mykonian]

that is just clever. Posting after the hammer.

[springlullaby]

Posting after the deed. But since it's written I'll post it anyway.

Concerning Scot, the whole play around MBF was terrible and terribly scummy. After rereading, I still think he is more likely scum than town aligned vig, especially looking back at the three posts Scot posted right after MBF's fakeclaim, in which he doesn't address the issue directly, ie by simply asking if MBF was joking of not, hiding his curiosity over the situation by posting about other things. I think that were Scot a town aligned vig, he would have made a priority out of straightening the situation with MBF. Then there is the whole lot of terrible logic leap Jdodge already highlighted.

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Myk, I don't even know why you claimed, but since you did, please post flavor.

[springlullaby]

Meh, I wanna see the flip while I'm on.

Come on!!

[mykonian]

Myk, I don't even know why you claimed, but since you did, please post flavor.

Because I was one of the two possibilities for the lynch at deadline.

I'm zidane, bla bla some stuff about headbuts (wasn't it about his sister in stead of his mother?) bla bla coming here for some random reason.

oh, I targeted UA N1.

[Flameaxe]

Votecount 2.7

Scotmany12 [5] (Panzerjager, JDodge, Mykonian, UltimaAvalon, Shanba)

Mykonian [2] (Springlullaby, Scotmany12)
Panzerjager [1] (Prozac)

Not Voting [1] (Ghostwriter)

With 9 players present, it will take 5 votes to lynch!

Prodding: No one.

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Deadline:

October 17th, evening.

[Flameaxe]

Poor old Nikola Tesla...He just wanted to help everyone by giving them the gift of electricity, but they turned on him. While he cried "miller!" the rest of the town cried "lynch!"...And while his AC current oscillatingly protected him in the night, it couldn't protect him in the day. He was killed, and the lights...went out.

Scotmany12 - Nikola Tesla - NK Immune Miller Vig - Lynched Day Two

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And with that, we have arrived at night two. Get your actions in when you can. I'm going to have a rough deadline set for Tuesday night for actions. Rough.

[Flameaxe]

Everyone awakens to a new bright, sun-shiney day! Well, not everyone. Luckly, Oman is still dead. Hooray for that. A new body appears at PEGBAM.

Mike Jones just wanted to be a well known rapper. Sadly, no one seemed to know who he was. So he made a song about it. When that didn't work he wanted to spread the word about his 'hoppin' musical career to all the patrons of PEGBAM. It seems someone really didn't like his music to the point of murderous intent...

Ghostwriter - Mike Jones - Vanilla Townie (with a one-shot Kingmaker) - Killed Night Two

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And with that I welcome everyone to day three. Everyone but JDodge apparently, who has gone missing this morning. Hope he makes his way back soon.

With 6 players present, it will take 4 votes to lynch!

[GhostWriter]

H B

[mykonian]

Odd, that the only thing done against the JD-Shanba superteam is a silencing action. I know, it is WIFOM, but it certainly is notable. Someone benefits by keeping JD alive, if that is JD or someone else.

Vote Porochaz

. SL was an early townread of mine, Panzer is a positive neutral, I don't think there were more then 2 scum scot's wagon and I think the wagon on me was completely made by town.

Porochaz was too happy to stay out of the conversation and off the wagons.

[mykonian]

EBWOP SL wasn early game townread of mine

[Porochaz]

I was happy to stay off the wagons. I had no reason to vote either of you. The scot case was full of bs and a weak start and I felt F.F's case on MBF was town and similar to what I believed at the time. Your numbers are totally arbitrary though, I mean how long is a piece of a string?

[mykonian]

I was happy to stay off the wagons. I had no reason to vote either of you. The scot case was full of bs and a weak start and I felt F.F's case on MBF was town and similar to what I believed at the time. Your numbers are totally arbitrary though, I mean how long is a piece of a string?

You know me well enough to know that I would measure it.

[Porochaz]

Yes but as its an arbitrary bit of string, it's a but useless, for all I care you could stand on a box in the middle of times square with a megaphone and yell it at people. I would still go, "well those are nice numbers he has invented to make an argument that I cant possibly make a logical answer to"

[UltimaAvalon]

Vote: UA

Because I care

[pickemgenius]

oh ffs why would you kill Mike Jones.

[UltimaAvalon]

oh ffs why would you kill Mike Jones.

because we suck at this game

[mykonian]

oh ffs why would you kill Mike Jones.

because we suck at this game

[UltimaAvalon]

I'm noticing JD is quiet now that everyone realizes what a fraud he is.

We should lynch him