Mini 1044: Lie to Me Mafia - Game Over

[ZeroFang]

VOTE: jimfinn

[Espeonage]

I actually missed my train this morning because of those posts. I really should have thought more there of course ZeroFang and Nacho are right.

[Zorblag]

The most dishonest time of day is 9:00 to 9:30 PM.

Third Reboot votecount of D2:

jimfinn(6) - Antihero, Locke Lamora, Nachomamm8, Shepherd_of_Wolves, Narsis, ZeroFang
Robbnva(1) - Tasky
Nachomamma8 (1) - jimfinn

Not Voting: Espeonage, Mokujin_, Robbnva

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. jimfinn is lynched.

jimfinn was Andrew Jenkins

, a

mafia goon.

Deadline for Submitting night actions is 4:00 PM/1:00 PM Monday, October 18th.

If I don't have replacements for Mokujin_ and Robbnva by around 24 hours before that they will be mod killed and I'll announce that in the game thread.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Zorblag]

Mod Note: I still haven't heard from either Mokujin_ or Robbnva and no one has offered to replace into the game so I'm going to mod-kill them at this time.

Mokujin_ and Robbnva,

neutral survivors (probably formerly a townie and a perfect-lying survivor or similar pair of roles)

fade into the background permanently.

Deadline for night actions is still 4:00 PM EDT/1:00 PM PDT on Monday, October 18th.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Zorblag]

Night Two ends with no deaths.

It is now Day Three.

First VoteCount of D3

Not voting: Antihero, Espeonage, Locke Lamora, Nachomamma8, Narsis, Shepherd_of_Wolves, Tasky, ZeroFang

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline will be 4:00 PM EDT/1:00 PM PDT on Monday, October 25th.

-Zorblag R`Lyeh

[Antihero]

Espy, target please.

[Antihero]

I'm thinking ZeroFang and Narsis are likely jim's partners.

ZeroFang is the first person I've seen to chainsaw defend someone and bus him at the same time.

VOTE: ZeroFang

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

That was a fantastic kill on jimfinn. But, too bad he outed out doc. But, to no avail for a Night 2 kill.

VOTE: Narsis

He is scum. I will reread ZeroFang. I am not sure who the third partner is, or if Maddie was.

I think Nacho was the Night one protection. He drew himself as a target by claiming to be a vig day kill. That was my theory, but it would have disclosed the doc.

[Narsis]

I think Nacho was the Night one protection. He drew himself as a target by claiming to be a vig day kill. That was my theory, but it would have disclosed the doc.

i figured that out when he claimed Nacho was town due to an interaction of his role. it was an obvious doc hint if i've ever seen one. granted i recently played a game as a doc. it's also why i was fence sitting at least on Esp. i didnt really think his play was protown and it's where my vote would have gone, at least until the obvious doc fakeclaim by jim, except for that doc hint.

[Espeonage]

I protected zerofang. So that means that either zerofang is town and got targetted or scum didn't kill anyone in case I confirmed one of them as town from the no kill. Sooooooo. We hve gotten nowhere because scum can now play with my results. At least either I am great at choosing my targets or scum are scared of me confirming townies so much they aren't killing which is a good thing for us.

[Antihero]

I protected zerofang. So that means that either zerofang is town and got targetted or scum didn't kill anyone in case I confirmed one of them as town from the no kill. Sooooooo. We hve gotten nowhere because scum can now play with my results. At least either I am great at choosing my targets or scum are scared of me confirming townies so much they aren't killing which is a good thing for us.

hmmmm....

Given your target, I think a roleblocker might be in play here.

Why do you think scum wouldn't kill you, Espy?

[Espeonage]

idk. I actually asked Zorblag if I could protect myself and I couldn't so I had to pick a target.

[Antihero]

I really doubt scum would leave a practically confirmed doc hang around, so theres a few viable options.

1) Scum failed to send an NK
2) The scum doing the kill got roleblocked
3) Espy got JKed

Doubting #3 since there's probably not a doc+jailkeeper combo (though not impossible). I'm also doubting #1 (especially after a scum lynch). That leaves #2.

I'm thinking it might be beneficial for a town RB to claim his target. What does everyone else think of this?

[Antihero]

Espy, reread your role PM. Is there anything to suggest you're a paranoid doc (aka jailkeeper)?

[Tasky]

1) Scum failed to send an NK
2) The scum doing the kill got roleblocked
3) Espy got JKed

you forgot an option there.
4) Espeonage is scum


I'm still getting town vibes from Narsis.
but I am confused.
have to reread.

[Tasky]

Espeonage: Why did you protect Zero Fang?

[Espeonage]

Gut.

[Tasky]

VOTE: Shepherd_of_Wolves

[Tasky]

oh, I almost forgot.
Esp, since you already claimed your role-power, would there be any problem telling us some things?
1. your role-name...
2.

Lie Detecter is obviously a mechanic of the game. From my role I think I can assume that everyone who has a role in the lightman group will have this mechanic tied to their role in some way or another.

what do you mean with this.

[Locke Lamora]

Vote: Shepherd of Wolves

I think the whole way he approached the Jimfinn lynch looks like scum trying not to go after his buddy too hard, then realising Jim wasn't going to post and deciding to go all out with the bussing, while still trying to get Narsis lynched. Jim's comment to Narsis about that vote makes me think Narsis is town, so SoW's vote there doesn't help any.

[Antihero]

Vote: Shepherd of Wolves

I think the whole way he approached the Jimfinn lynch looks like scum trying not to go after his buddy too hard, then realising Jim wasn't going to post and deciding to go all out with the bussing, while still trying to get Narsis lynched. Jim's comment to Narsis about that vote makes me think Narsis is town, so SoW's vote there doesn't help any.

So....
you're going with WIFOM that scum planted.

FoS: Locke

[Narsis]

Vote: Shepherd of Wolves

I think the whole way he approached the Jimfinn lynch looks like scum trying not to go after his buddy too hard, then realising Jim wasn't going to post and deciding to go all out with the bussing, while still trying to get Narsis lynched. Jim's comment to Narsis about that vote makes me think Narsis is town, so SoW's vote there doesn't help any.

So....
you're going with WIFOM that scum planted.

FoS: Locke

you so sure it's WIFOM?

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

I never hesitated to lynch Jimfinn. I just was interested in Narsis too, equally.

Locke, this Jimfinn to Narsis comment that you mention. This is the one, right?

Narsis, I was about to not get lynched. What are you doing?

And, how does that convince you that Narsis is town? What was so persuasive about that?

Here is your previous comments on Narsis.

Good points on Narsis. He's lurky and passive, would be up for his lynch if Jim's doesn't go through. I think Tasky responded well to SoW's case and I view SoW stepping back from it as mild town.

Jim: what do you think of Narsis? Who are your top two suspects right now?

And NOW, you are convinced that he is town.

Vote: Shepherd of Wolves

I think the whole way he approached the Jimfinn lynch looks like scum trying not to go after his buddy too hard, then realising Jim wasn't going to post and deciding to go all out with the bussing, while still trying to get Narsis lynched.

Jim's comment to Narsis about that vote makes me think Narsis is town

, so SoW's vote there doesn't help any.

I am starting to think that Locke and Narsis are the two remaining scum.

[Antihero]

Narsis, I was about to not get lynched. What are you doing?

Maybe jim said that to make us think Narsis was his buddy.
Maybe he knew we would think that and decide Narsis was innocent.
Maybe he knew we would think

that

, so Narsis is scum
Maybe he knew we would think

that

, so Narsis is clear.....

This is WIFOM. I'm not sure what Narsis is questioning here.

[Shepherd_of_Wolves]

LOCKE

You gave no indication yesterday that you had any inclination that Narsis was town.

SoW: your post at the top of this page in particular is the one that pings my scumdar. Jim's suddenly becoming one of your suspects - convenient, considering that Antihero, ZeroFang and myself all now want a Jimfinn lynch - but hey, Tasky still fits in with Jim as scum, so it's ok! As you like connections, I think I can see one there between you and Jimfinn.

Throw in Narsis for good measure and I think we have three likely scum.

Why did you throw Narsis in for good measure at this point? I am bothered that you use jimfinn as your trusted source on Narsis. His lash out changed your mind.

Why are you bothered that I point to two people as suspects? I only have one vote. But, once I did an analysis on Jimfinn, I never changed my mind on him. I knew he was scum. Prior to my analysis of him, I focused primarily on Tasky.

I have coupled my suspects every Day Phase. That is my main style this game. But, if you think that is a problem, tell me why. Scum interact. I think it is worthy to point out multiple suspects, and pursue them individually and in connection. Now you and Narsis are my two. Here is my total current breakdown of the players.

I know I am town. I am convinced that Robbnva (dead without role alignment), Espeonage, and Tasky are town. I am leaning to the belief that Nacho and Antihero are town. I am not sure about ZeroFang. I am leaning that Locke Lamora is SCUM. And, I am convinced that Narsis is scum.